So has anyone seen this fan manga before? I discover it earlier today and I have no idea if it's on going. While the art work is not too bad, I notice some major tracing but I seen much worst. The story seems so unoriginal. Dr. Gero, Dr. Myuu, Dr Raichi and Babidi team up together in Hell to create a super enemy. Why would Dr. Gero team up with Dr. Myuu again when Dr. Myuu turn his back on him in GT? Also it seems like Trunks and Pan got marry 10 years after GT and have a child. Uub and Bra seem to be dating too.
no, I haven't heard of it, but I want to know if there's anything I can search for stuff past the first volume. I may not be able to read it, but it still looks interesting So far "The Last Enemy" returns a mix of random stuff while "Dragon Ball LE" returns mostly french stuff. (Searched on Google).
EDIT: If there is actually nothing past the first volume, forgive me for my ignorance. So far, it seems that's the case
I just like to see someone translate this into English and see if there is more volumes. Even if this fan manga does suck, I want to see how the rest of it turns out.
Hellspawn28 wrote:Dr. Gero, Dr. Myuu, Dr Raichi and Babidi team up together in Hell to create a super enemy. Why would Dr. Gero team up with Dr. Myuu again when Dr. Myuu turn his back on him in GT. Also it seems like Trunks and Pan got marry 10 years after GT and have a child. Uub and Bulla seem to be dating too.3
Story sounds stupid and incredibly fanfictiony...so perfect to fit the style of current Dragon Ball movies .
Also it seems like Trunks and Pan got marry 10 years after GT and have a child.
Gross.
Uub and Bulla seem to be dating too.
Why? Guess someone is just playing cupid just cause.
Artwork looks cool, everything else sounds stupid....so just like Dragon Ball Multi-verse, but without the fan service.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Hellspawn28 wrote:So has anyone seen this fan manga before? I discover it earlier today and I have no idea if it's on going. While the art work is not too bad, I notice some major tracing but I seen much worst. The story seems so unoriginal. Dr. Gero, Dr. Myuu, Dr Raichi and Babidi team up together in Hell to create a super enemy. Why would Dr. Gero team up with Dr. Myuu again when Dr. Myuu turn his back on him in GT. Also it seems like Trunks and Pan got marry 10 years after GT and have a child. Uub and Bulla seem to be dating too.
That's where you lost me. I don't approve of tracing in any form, no matter how small. The premise of the story officially killed any form interest I would have in the fan fiction.
dbzfan7 wrote:Story sounds stupid and incredibly fanfictiony...so perfect to fit the style of all of the Dragon Ball movies .
Fixed it for you.
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Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
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I'm not a fan of major villain teams up since they always tend to fail in Dragon Ball. It feels out of character for Dr. Gero to team up with Dr. Myuu again. Dr. Myuu used Super 17 to kill him and I would imagine Dr. Gero would be like "Fuck off" if Myuu asked him to team up again.
I do kind of like the idea of Babidi and a scientist teaming up to make something equally of magic and technology, but since we've already had a Gero/Myuu team up, neither of those scientists really work as well.
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I just tried looking into it and I can't find anything on it, which is a shame. I'd love to read this. I'll keep trying to search and see if I can find the author.
Hellspawn28 wrote:Also it seems like Trunks and Pan got marry 10 years after GT and have a child.
Gross.
I'm sorry, a thirteen year gap is too much for you to handle? You are aware people with larger age gaps marry in real life right?
No it's the fact Trunks knew her while she 4 Years old I believe, probably even earlier since I doubt Trunks is as distant to people as Goku. So to end up fucking someone you know while they were a toddler is weird. Also yes I am aware of gaps like these considering my father is gonna marry someone much younger than him. Except he didn't know her since she was a baby or 4 years old, and then proceed to fuck them when they are older. Do you look at a family friends baby and think "Maybe when they're older, and if I have no one, imma date or plow them."
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
dbzfan7 wrote:No it's the fact Trunks knew her while she 4 Years old I believe, probably even earlier since I doubt Trunks is as distant to people as Goku. So to end up fucking someone you know while they were a toddler is weird. Also yes I am aware of gaps like these considering my father is gonna marry someone much younger than him. Except he didn't know her since she was a baby or 4 years old, and then proceed to fuck them when they are older. Do you look at a family friends baby and think "Maybe when they're older, and if I have no one, imma date or plow them."
That's making an awful big assumption that Trunks, or anyone else in that situation, would have ever thought that though. If they did, then yeah, it's a little creepy. But sometimes, one can never know what the future will hold. And so long as both are consenting adults, then fictional or real world either one, I fail to see where it's creepy.
But this is all getting off topic anyway.
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dbzfan7 wrote:No it's the fact Trunks knew her while she 4 Years old I believe, probably even earlier since I doubt Trunks is as distant to people as Goku. So to end up fucking someone you know while they were a toddler is weird. Also yes I am aware of gaps like these considering my father is gonna marry someone much younger than him. Except he didn't know her since she was a baby or 4 years old, and then proceed to fuck them when they are older. Do you look at a family friends baby and think "Maybe when they're older, and if I have no one, imma date or plow them."
That's making an awful big assumption that Trunks, or anyone else in that situation, would have ever thought that though. If they did, then yeah, it's a little creepy. But sometimes, one can never know what the future will hold. And so long as both are consenting adults, then fictional or real world either one, I fail to see where it's creepy.
But this is all getting off topic anyway.
The youngest he's known her is 4 years old on panel, before in GT where she's 10. Considering Trunks is not Goku, it's unlikely he hasn't known Pan even earlier than that. Trunks is already an adult before then. Trunks is pretty much her big brother in relation. That's pretty much how it's been. Lovers is just messed up. If anything Oob makes a more sense if they were gonna go in some pairing direction.
I wouldn't say off topic considering this is part of the story apparently.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Oh trust me, I'm not really advocating Trunks x Pan - I'm more of a supporter of the 'idea' (since it pretty much has to be developed in a fan story cuz there's nothing to go with in-series anywhere) of Oob x Pan. I'm just saying I don't really see the 'eww' factor to the level that you are, because to me, again, at the end of the day what two consenting adults (and that's the most important part) decide to do is between them and them alone.
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Gyt Kaliba wrote:Oh trust me, I'm not really advocating Trunks x Pan - I'm more of a supporter of the 'idea' (since it pretty much has to be developed in a fan story cuz there's nothing to go with in-series anywhere) of Oob x Pan. I'm just saying I don't really see the 'eww' factor to the level that you are, because to me, again, at the end of the day what two consenting adults (and that's the most important part) decide to do is between them and them alone.
I'd see it that way if they didn't know each other, but they have a sorta big brother, lil sis relationship. In GT that is basically how I saw it. Moving from that to intimidate is weird to me. It'd be like if I did it with my babysitter once I was older. Doesn't really matter to me if She's like 30 and I'm 20.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
If LE takes place 10 years after GT then Trunks would be 33 and Pan would be 20. I don't like the of shipping those two because it would make Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. cousins. I don't think Goku's family and Vegeta's family should be connected with each other.
Hellspawn28 wrote:If LE takes place 10 years after GT then Trunks would be 33 and Pan would be 20. I don't like the of shipping those two because it would make Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. cousins. I don't think Goku's family and Vegeta's family should be connected with each other.
Now that's an entirely new can of worms. Shouldn't the families of the last two members of the Saiyan Race unify?
Hellspawn28 wrote:If LE takes place 10 years after GT then Trunks would be 33 and Pan would be 20. I don't like the of shipping those two because it would make Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. cousins. I don't think Goku's family and Vegeta's family should be connected with each other.
Now that's an entirely new can of worms. Shouldn't the families of the last two members of the Saiyan Race unify?
If Goku and Vegeta Jr. can go Super Saiyan despite being 1/16 Saiyan, the Son family and Brief family definitely porked at least once.