Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Post by Rocketman » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:25 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:Honestly? Worst situation (the one you're presenting) is that they won't listen either way.
If they won't listen either way, then there's no point in wishing for the success of something you dislike.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:46 pm

Wishing for it to fail just because you don't like it however is not only pitiful, it's mean-spirited beyond belief, and shows a complete lack of empathy for those whose job it was to make the film. Yes, let's wish for the film to do badly just because it doesn't fit well with what you've personally envisioned the series should do. That's mature.
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Post by KaiserNeko » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:51 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Wishing for it to fail just because you don't like it however is not only pitiful, it's mean-spirited beyond belief, and shows a complete lack of empathy for those whose job it was to make the film. Yes, let's wish for the film to do badly just because it doesn't fit well with what you've personally envisioned the series should do. That's mature.
Furthermore, it's not that the film is bad, without merit, or even unenjoyable. Everyone person I know who has seen it has enjoyed the film and has recommended other DragonBall fans see it.
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Post by Marlowe89 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:08 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:Absolutely ecstatic to see Chris Ayres back in the role for the movie. Linda Young is a wonderful woman and actress, but she is by and far not suited for the role.
My feelings about it are a little complex. I mean, you're absolutely right, but I wouldn't have complained if she was chosen - perhaps it's because I've been so accustomed to her Freeza voice over the years. After hearing Ayres, though, I can't help but instantly feel he's superior for the role.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:09 pm

I can understand wanting to see something fail because it's a vital part of a company, and thus, they'd have to rethink their strategies/ideas in the future. But DBZ is only a fraction of what keeps Toei or whomever alive. If the movie fails, all we get in return is, well, the end of DBZ for good. I don't see why someone who doesn't even feel these movies are connected to the manga, which ended, should care either way.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:48 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:Absolutely ecstatic to see Chris Ayres back in the role for the movie. Linda Young is a wonderful woman and actress, but she is by and far not suited for the role.

Also, I see some people in this thread hoping the movie does poorly. My honest question is... why? Why would anyone want this movie to fail? I understand that some folks have an issue with the movie itself, but it failing won't make Toei go back and reconsider the quality of their product. We've seen in the past that's just not how they act. They have a tendency of either putting LESS money and effort in, or flat out just cancelling any new content.

I want this movie to do well because there's a lot about this movie that I've seen that I really enjoy, even with it's flaws, and want to see more quality come out of this series in the future. I think the only way that's going to happen is to show Toei that we support the series, while critically providing it the criticism necessary to help inform them moving on what we would like to see in the future. Not that they should necessarily pander to us, obviously.
Probably cause if it succeeds, then more media products just like it will be made. Kinda like if there's a bad game, you don't want to support it and give companies the idea that they're good. When you pay for bad games, more bad shit is made. Same with movies. The more you pay for say the Transformers movies, the more of them that will be made, despite how people constantly harp on them. I'm not saying FnF is bad, but I can see why some want to see the movie fail. If it fails then a new direction would possibly have to be taken. That's just what I think. There's some stuff I really want to fail even if I'm a fan of the franchise, but Dragon Ball isn't one of them.
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Post by Mewzard » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:40 am

Because Toei's totally going to want to do another movie if it doesn't make money. Unless something's ridiculously marketable, Toei'd be just as glad to set something financially struggling to die.

So I'm glad it seems to be succeeding (and even beyond BoG thus far if what we've seen in sales is any indication).
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:48 am

Mewzard wrote:Because Toei's totally going to want to do another movie if it doesn't make money. Unless something's ridiculously marketable, Toei'd be just as glad to set something financially struggling to die.

So I'm glad it seems to be succeeding (and even beyond BoG thus far if what we've seen in sales is any indication).
Depends how you feel as a whole. If you're a person heavily against the new movies, then chances are they don't want more garbage they don't like. The more something like FNF succeeds, the more movie stuff like that is made. To some people that's unappealing. So why would they want the movie to succeed just so another movie most likely in the general area of the last will just be made next time.

However if you're someone who likes FNF, you definitely want it to succeed so more movies like it are made. You want to support something that's good and want to tell the people behind the product you want more films like this. The more you support show you love the current direction, the more likely we'll get another film in a similar regard as the last one.

It's all on perspective. If you hate something or the current direction of a series, then usually you don't want to see it succeed in the direction you don't like. Otherwise you'll grow more and more to hate it. If you like how things are then you want to support it so more of what you like is produced.
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Post by Chuquita » Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:57 am

If the pixiv arts and tweets are true, I learned I have more "awkward Vegeta moments" to look forward to. :3
But again, dunno if this is true or not. Also don't know when he'd
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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:03 am

Chuquita wrote:If the pixiv arts and tweets are true, I learned I have more "awkward Vegeta moments" to look forward to. :3
But again, dunno if this is true or not. Also don't know when he'd
Oh yeah I remember that part when Whis knocked Vegeta out like what he did with Beerus and carried him like a princess, Whis is such a gentleman :lol:

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Chuquita wrote:If the pixiv arts and tweets are true, I learned I have more "awkward Vegeta moments" to look forward to. :3
But again, dunno if this is true or not. Also don't know when he'd
Oh yeah I remember that part when Whis knocked Vegeta out like what he did with Beerus and carried him like a princess, Whis is such a gentleman :lol:
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Post by Chuquita » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:05 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
Chuquita wrote:If the pixiv arts and tweets are true, I learned I have more "awkward Vegeta moments" to look forward to. :3
But again, dunno if this is true or not. Also don't know when he'd
Oh yeah I remember that part when Whis knocked Vegeta out like what he did with Beerus and carried him like a princess, Whis is such a gentleman :lol:
Hahahaha! :lol: That's fantastic! I hope Gokû got to see that. XD
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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:09 am

Chuquita wrote:
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Chuquita wrote:If the pixiv arts and tweets are true, I learned I have more "awkward Vegeta moments" to look forward to. :3
But again, dunno if this is true or not. Also don't know when he'd
Oh yeah I remember that part when Whis knocked Vegeta out like what he did with Beerus and carried him like a princess, Whis is such a gentleman :lol:
Hahahaha! :lol: That's fantastic! I hope Gokû got to see that. XD
He did, sadly Whis didnt do the same thing to Goku, would be funny if he knocked Goku unconscious and princess carried him too.... :lol:

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:38 am

Why did Whis leave Vegeta unconscious?
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Post by Herms » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:38 am

Bonus Stage wrote:Herms, rumors spread saying that Vegeta surpassed Goku and Beerus .
Goku would be stronger than Beerus with 70% Power and Vegeta would be stronger than Beerus with 105% power .

That's true?
Nothing remotely like that is in the movie script, if that's what you're asking.
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Post by Ajay » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:15 am

Jeez, my girlfriend wasn't kidding when she said there was a lot of new stuff to come back to. So many leaks! All these scenes I was so excited to talk about now I'm back have all been discussed. That...kinda sucks.

Anyway, the trip was good. Very short with little time to do much but walk around the area near the hotel. In the heart of Shinjuku, that's not really a bad thing; though it's a weird mix of east and west. Literally had a McDonalds next to the hotel lobby!

Picked up the brochure and a blue haired Goku figure. No luck on Volume F, but I preordered a copy before I even planned this trip, so it's not a huge loss...assuming what arrives isn't a bootleg.

I'm heading back with my family in late June/early July, so I'll be able to do everything properly this time. Sailorspazz recommended J-World which seems pretty cool! The plan is to start in Tokyo again for a few days, then head Hakone for two days, Kyoto for 2 days, right down to Miyajima for another two, spend one day in Osako before heading up to Takayama for another two, and then finally finishing in Tokyo again for the last two days.

That's totally open to change. If anyone would like to recommend alterations to those plans, that's fine by me. Any ideas based on those locations would be wonderful, too.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:21 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Why did Whis leave Vegeta unconscious?
That was the part on the manga chapter 2, them training with Whis, tho in the movie Whis knocked Vegeta unconscious.

After watching the movie again, Freeza actually says to Goku

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Post by Noah » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:28 am

rereboy wrote:Yes. He could have brought it all back with the Dragon Balls and didn't even consider it. All he wanted was immortality. He also could have created a new race of saiyans by using earth women as it was suggested by Nappa, and he disagreed saying that he didn't want kids becoming stronger than him. And when he finds out from Dodoria that Freeza was the one that destroyed his planet, he doesn't even get mad.

Vegeta only cares about his race and planet when it's convenient for him to care, like in that moment to turn down Freeza or when he was about to die in Namek so that Goku could be more motivated to fight. He's an hypocrite.
I can say that this definitely Vegeta relation with other Saiyans and his home planet as well

batistabus wrote:On the topic of Vegeta "caring" about Planet Vegeta:

Freeza destroying the planet was an insult to Vegeta and his pride. Whether or not he cared about the physical space itself or the people who inhabited it, that was what upset him the most.
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Post by Chuquita » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:10 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
Chuquita wrote:
Hahahaha! :lol: That's fantastic! I hope Gokû got to see that. XD
He did, sadly Whis didnt do the same thing to Goku, would be funny if he knocked Goku unconscious and princess carried him too.... :lol:
I would've loved that. :lol: Entertaining stuff!
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Post by vegitot » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:14 am

Bonus Stage wrote:Herms, rumors spread saying that Vegeta surpassed Goku and Beerus .
Goku would be stronger than Beerus with 70% Power and Vegeta would be stronger than Beerus with 105% power .

That's true?
Beerus destroys solar system=>Both Goku and Vegeta die.
To me,even Kid Buu could kill both Goku and Vegeta now

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