"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun May 10, 2015 3:01 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
Dyno wrote:Where are you seeing anime things related? I'm only seeing they covering the manga.

Cool to note there is no mention about Dragon Ball Minus (from what I can see), only Bardock/planet Vegeta/Age 737.
The anime things are preceded by a small star sign in text. They're not illustrated. Garlic Jr., Paikuhan, etc. are mentioned.

Jaco is mentioned too I think.
Yup, Jaco is the third thing on the timeline.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Dyno » Sun May 10, 2015 3:04 pm

Oh man, I'm getting blind, now I saw the star. Thank you both. :lol:

EDIT: Using Google translate, I think it says Bardock was sent to a distant past...

"カカロット(孫悟空)が生まれる。フリーザがサイヤ人に対して戦争を仕掛ける。カカロットの父、バーダックはフリーザに最後まで抵抗するも惑星ベジータの爆発に巻き込まれ遠い過去の世界へ飛ばされる。"
"Kakarotto (Son Goku) is born. Freezer is waging a war against the Saiyan. Father of Kakarotto, Badakku is skipped to the distant past of the world caught up also resist in the freezer until the end in the explosion of the planet Vegeta."
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun May 10, 2015 3:08 pm

Dyno wrote:Oh man, I'm getting blind, now I saw the star. Thank you both. :lol:

EDIT: Using Google translate, it says Bardock was sent to a distant past... Is it... Well, it's odd, to say the least. :think:
I believe it says that the battle was in the past, maybe I'm interpreting it wrong.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun May 10, 2015 3:09 pm

I had to use Google Translate to read the timeline. I notice that they didn't bother using DB- as apart of their timeline.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Sun May 10, 2015 3:11 pm

Dyno wrote:
EDIT: Using Google translate, I think it says Bardock was sent to a distant past...
It happened in an OVA tie-in for DB Heroes called Episode Of Bardock.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sun May 10, 2015 3:40 pm

Captain Space wrote:
Chuquita wrote: Koyama's disparaging remarks about Beerus compared to his Brolli also help in keeping Brolli from returning, I think.
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It's translated here.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TripleRach » Sun May 10, 2015 4:25 pm

Marco Polo wrote:The official 30th anniversary site has put up a timeline of DB which goes from ancient Buu backstory all the way to EoZ.

http://db30th.com/into/into_nenpyo.html

Anime exclusive events are marked with a star symbol, except for BoG and RoF.
I recognize most of this text from Daizenshuu 7. Which was carried over into Chouzenshuu 4, and I believe that's where the EOB and BOG entries are from. The entries about Jaco and RF are obviously new since then.

It's definitely not everything from the book(s), so it's odd that they did keep things like the driving school episode and Garlic Jr.

And using a ☆ to distinguish anime-original content was something Daizenshuu 7 did in other sections, but not during the timeline.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun May 10, 2015 4:57 pm

They certainly made a little bit of a mess out of the section surrounding Goku's birth, considering what they were trying to do. I mean, the entry itself is consistent as a summary, but not when you know the context of the stories they are combining. You got them ignoring Dragon Ball Minus by working off the Bardock TV Special having Goku born the same year the planet is destroyed (with Beerus sleeping 2 years later) and then Bardock being sent into the past. They also add on Jaco to that entry because of his appearance in Resurrection F, yet they don't mark any of this with a ☆. Kinda funny.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Sun May 10, 2015 5:43 pm

Episode of Bardock is in the timeline?

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Post by sayian_nation_ » Sun May 10, 2015 5:47 pm

Ok, so by looking at the time line it shows BOG and ROF come before meeting Uub? It says 10 years after majin buu was defeated is when the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai is held, meaning in between those 10 years is when Goku meets Beerus and fights Freeza?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Sun May 10, 2015 5:48 pm

Saiyan_nation_ wrote:Ok, so by looking at the time line it shows BOG and ROF come before meeting Uub? It says 10 years after majin buu was defeated is when the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai is held, meaning in between those 10 years is when Goku meets Beerus and fights Freeza?
Huh, yes. This was known for a while. I mean, the characters look obviously younger than during the 28th Tenkaichi :?

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun May 10, 2015 5:49 pm

Marco Polo wrote:Episode of Bardock is in the timeline?
Not the Chilled material, but the AGE 737 entry notes Bardock was sent into the past via planet Vegeta's explosion while standing up to Freeza, just like in the Chozenshu.
Saiyan_nation_ wrote:Ok, so by looking at the time line it shows BOG and ROF come before meeting Uub? It says 10 years after majin buu was defeated is when the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai is held, meaning in between those 10 years is when Goku meets Beerus and fights Freeza?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by BlackCatScott » Sun May 10, 2015 5:57 pm

So since that crazy day where we had the official announcement a new series is on the way, and the internet exploding with excitement, it's gone awfully quiet hasnt it?

When do we think we'll start getting news on this? Plot details / artwork / teaser etc. I'm fascinated to see how this series is going to look.

When you think about it, it's not far off at all, so I hope there's something lined up to tease us soon. :wink:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun May 10, 2015 6:00 pm

Marco Polo wrote:The official 30th anniversary site has put up a timeline of DB which goes from ancient Buu backstory all the way to EoZ.

http://db30th.com/into/into_nenpyo.html

Anime exclusive events are marked with a star symbol, except for BoG and RoF.
And of course, GT is completely excluded.

Okay, I'm honestly starting to really not like this "GT is the ugly duckling" treatment that it's gotten over the years. I mean, yes, GT didn't have the best of execution for it's concept and didn't live to high standard of previous animes in the franchise and I, myself, may not be the biggest fan of the show, but to try to act like it never happened within the franchise, even though it's been constantly recognized within the franchise for several years, is pretty insulting to the fans of the show. I mean, I know, we're not supposed to look into the Dragon Ball timeline with consistency, but at least provide recognition to all the major contributions to the franchise and don't pick and chose just because in regards to certain contributions to Dragon Ball it was a case of "Toriyama didn't write it. Not canon. Fuck it."

With that being said, where's Dragon Ball Minus in that timeline?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Neon Z » Sun May 10, 2015 6:11 pm

Lord Beerus wrote: With that being said, where's Dragon Ball Minus in that timeline?
They mentioned Jaco in the first entry, just without a picture.

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Post by sayian_nation_ » Sun May 10, 2015 6:14 pm

Lol I was just wondering. I mean at the end of Z Goku leaves with Uub to train him, so the time line implies that at that time he has already hit God form. Made me wonder where the start of Super would take place. I know it says after Majin buu has been defeated but that's not specific enough.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun May 10, 2015 6:14 pm

Neon Z wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: With that being said, where's Dragon Ball Minus in that timeline?
They mentioned Jaco in the first entry, just without a picture.
A Jaco reference doesn't mean a Dragon Ball Minus reference. As I already stated up above, the entry starts out saying Goku was born the same year Vegeta was destroyed, which means they are going with the Bardock TV Special and not Minus. For this interpretation of the timeline, Jaco's main chapters are apparently getting shifted back two years and slapped onto the end of the TV Special, with Goku being a baby rather than a toddler.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sun May 10, 2015 6:19 pm

Re: News when?

I'd imagine we're getting a website with at least placeholders soon; Toei had Go!Pri's up almost-exactly 2 months before it premiered.

Re: GT ignored

Maybe we really are rewriting over GT this time around?

Re: Minus ignored

Maybe someone's having second thoughts about how Minus' story ended up and decided maybe they do like the Bardock Special version of events better?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Sun May 10, 2015 6:25 pm

Re: GT ignored

I think they just want to avoid confusing newcomers since Super will (probably) be set around the same era as GT. Don't worry, GT will still continue to show up in Xenoverse, Heroes and other video games.

Re: Minus ignored

I don't see how it's getting ignored. It's likely that they're including it just as they are including Jaco, and either the date just happens to be an error or Goku really was 1 year-old in Minus since he isn't even human anyway and maybe Saiyans grow up like that.

Can we get 100% confirmation that the timeline says Bardock was sent into the past though? That's by the far the strangest thing in this timeline :shock:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Dyno » Sun May 10, 2015 6:25 pm

Chuquita wrote:and decided maybe they do like the Bardock Special version of events better?
Which is/would be totally reasonable for some obvious issues, you know. (aside from Gine, of course. And speaking of her, it's her day! :mrgreen:)

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