The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Lord Beerus]

Tenshinhan (Boo Saga) vs. Vegeta (Freeza Saga; Post-Zenkai)
Chaozu (Boo Saga) vs…. Nappa
Gohan (Resurrection F) vs. SPC

- Tien wins
- Chaozu takes this
- SPC crushes Gohan

[Angelus]

Gohan (Resurrection F) vs. SPC[/b]

Huh? Isn't Gohan mystic in the movie?

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Gohan (Resurrection F) vs. SPC

Huh? Isn't Gohan mystic in the movie?

Nope. Just a weak ass Super Saiyan.

[Angelus]

SSJ3 Gotien (Buu Saga Goku + Tien Potara Fusion) VS SSJ3 Gotenks (Post-ROSAT)

[DBZAOTA482]

SSJ3 Gotien (Buu Saga Goku + Tenshinhan Potara Fusion) VS SSJ3 Gotenks (Post-ROSAT)

Gotenks has the upper hand till he defuses.

[Lord Beerus]

Gohan (Resurrection F) vs. SPC

Huh? Isn't Gohan mystic in the movie?

Nope. Just a weak ass Super Saiyan.

And a Scholar. Supposedly.

SSJ3 Gotien (Buu Saga Goku + Tenshinhan Potara Fusion) VS SSJ3 Gotenks (Post-ROSAT)

SSJ3 Gotenks wrecks SSJ3 Gotien.

[Dyno]

Bills (Movie 15) vs Kakarot and Vegeta beyond Gods (the very end of Z).

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Bills (Movie 15) vs Kakarot and Vegeta beyond Gods (the very end of Z).

Goku and Vegeta wreck Beerus when they work together.

[Sora Saiyan]

Bills (Movie 15) vs Kakarot and Vegeta beyond Gods (the very end of Z).

When you say beyond gods do you mean their powererd up base? 5 years of training is a lot of time though so maybe they surpass Beerus individually at that point, together they'd win. SSJGSS's would definitely win individually IMO.

[singsing]

Bills (Movie 15) vs Kakarot and Vegeta beyond Gods (the very end of Z).

When you say beyond gods do you mean their powererd up base? 5 years of training is a lot of time though so maybe they surpass Beerus individually at that point, together they'd win. SSJGSS's would definitely win individually IMO.

They were still so weak that an unpowered sleepy ki blast was supposed to be enough to kill them, and 7 years of probably near 24/7 training in the Other World did no more than like, double Goku's power bar SSJ3. I don't see them ever surpassing Beerus, which IMO is the best way to have things.

[Dyno]

I have already explained what is "Saiyan beyond God" (you add "Saiyan" when you don't put any name) in this very topic:

"Saiyan beyond God" is a state, kind of the Ultimate/Mystic of Son Gohan. It is a state a Saiyan achieves after absorbing Super Saiyan God powers and somehow can master it, thus allowing you to use the Super Saiyan God powers in base form. In Dragon Ball Heroes it was treated as a transformation for Kakarot, but in the actual movie, it seems that it is Kakarot's and Vegeta's regular base forms from now on.

"Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" is a transformation, like Super Saiyan but using this "godly power". When you transform into the regular Super Saiyan while using Super Saiyan God powers, the hair becomes blue green-ish and it seems that rule of "Super Saiyan increases your power by 50%" no longer exists.

So basically, yes.

They were still so weak that an unpowered sleepy ki blast was supposed to be enough to kill them, and 7 years of probably near 24/7 training in the Other World did no more than like, double Goku's power bar SSJ3. I don't see them ever surpassing Beerus, which IMO is the best way to have things.

Please remember that I specifically said "end of Z", not them in the actual movie.

[singsing]

Please remember that I specifically said "end of Z", not them in the actual movie.

Yes, which is why I provided context for my argument. 7 years of training didn't do much for Goku and Vegeta. I don't see why 5 would let them bridge that huge gap between themselves and Beerus.

[ZombieVito]

Kaioshin and Kibito vs. Yakon and Pui-Pui
Chi-Chi (23rd Budokai) vs. Tambourine

Kaioshin solos in less than 10 seconds.
Tambourine wins with difficulty.

Tenshinhan (Boo Saga) vs. Vegeta (Freeza Saga; Post-Zenkai)
Chaozu (Boo Saga) vs…. Nappa
Gohan (Resurrection F) vs. SPC

Is this Vegeta when he fought True Form Freeza? If so Vegeta wins with difficulty.
Chaoz finger flicks.
Gohan gives one hell of a fight but Cell has the advantage, he wins.

[Dyno]

Yes, which is why I provided context for my argument. 7 years of training didn't do much for Goku and Vegeta. I don't see why 5 would let them bridge that huge gap between themselves and Beerus.

Well, seven years gave Kakarot both Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3, while it gave to Vegeta the Super Saiyan 2... I'm not saying they would "gain" another form, but...

[Hugo Boss]

Gohan (Resurrection F) vs. SPC

Well if Shisami is slightly stronger than Piccolo, who hasn't been shown to have lost any strength, Shisami could be around Cell Jr level. Since Gohan one shotted (he did right?) he could be around his SSJ2 kid self. So he should win SPC IMO.

Not that I disagree with you, but couldn't Cell do the same thing to a Cell Jr.? I guess「Ｆ」' Gohan still have a slightly edge in power, but Cell is clever enough to make this fight very difficult.

[Doctor.]

Please remember that I specifically said "end of Z", not them in the actual movie.

Yes, which is why I provided context for my argument. 7 years of training didn't do much for Goku and Vegeta. I don't see why 5 would let them bridge that huge gap between themselves and Beerus.

Because they had gotten to their limit at that point. Their potential now is seemingly limitless.

[moochfloatjr]

Beerus + Whis Potara fusion (Beris? Wheerus?) vs SSGSS Vegetto, Golden Freeza, and Mystic/Ultimate Gohan all at once.

[dbzfan7]

Beerus + Whis Potara fusion (Beris? Wheerus?) vs SSGSS Vegetto, Golden Freeza, and Mystic/Ultimate Gohan all at once.

Not sure if Whis and Beerus are that compatible. If they get a fusion that was as benefitial as Vegetto's, then Whisrus should win. If they get something like Kibitoshin, then the boost they get is not as large as you'd think. Golden Freeza and especially Ultimate Gohan are complete non factors in this battle.

[Angelus]

Beerus + Whis Potara fusion (Beris? Wheerus?) vs SSGSS Vegetto, Golden Freeza, and Mystic/Ultimate Gohan all at once.

Beeris with some effort. Both Vegeta and Goku, the components of Vegito are far weaker than even just Whis. Even with a rival boost, it's not nearly enough. Golden Freeza and Gohan won't be able to do any significant damage.

End of Z Krillin VS Androids Saga Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and Tien (Multiform split to 4)-- No tribeam, paralysis, or solar flare

[Lord Beerus]

Beerus + Whis Potara fusion (Beris? Wheerus?) vs SSGSS Vegetto, Golden Freeza, and Mystic/Ultimate Gohan all at once.

Beerus/Whis crush everyone in their path.

End of Z Krillin VS Androids Saga Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and Tenshinhan (Multiform split to 4)-- No tribeam, paralysis, or solar flare

Krillin takes out all the clones like how he destroyed all those Saibamen. Yamcha, Chiaotzu, and Tenshinhan having their power split 1/4 fractions just makes the job easier for Krillin.