Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

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Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

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General Discussion for Dragon Ball Kai episode 153, aired 17 May 2015

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by DBZ_Lee » Sat May 16, 2015 9:25 pm

Good episode. I liked the music when Goku was fighting Buu, can anyone shed any light as to if this was a new track please?. This finished pretty much half way into Z 282, so with 7 episodes of International Kai remaining, we have 1.5 episodes worth of content to be cut.
Assuming the filler episode is completely removed, they have a little over 10 minutes worth of content to cut, so I can't see too much going now, apart from perhaps some of the Tournament filler. The Japanese market version will probably remove all of the Tournament filler, so they get to finish up an episode sooner, I would think the Goku Vs Uub fight will be heavily trimmed alongside the Goku & Pan scenes.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by RoarkVegeta » Sat May 16, 2015 10:29 pm

Popped in and out of this episode. Liking more of the Kai music (haven't watched much) but looking forward to next week. Somehow.
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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by Periskir » Sun May 17, 2015 7:20 am

How many episodes left untill the end?

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by DBZ_Lee » Sun May 17, 2015 7:30 am

6 episodes remain for Japan, 7 for the International version.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by Periskir » Sun May 17, 2015 7:38 am

7?? But why?

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by Darkblade1995 » Sun May 17, 2015 7:49 am

Periskir wrote:7?? But why?
Apparently the Japanese cuts one episode more. It ends with episode 159, which means the Japanese cut is 61 episodes long and the international version is 69 episodes.

By the way, I thought it was a nice episode. Music was well placed in my opinion. It ended halfway through 282 of Z, that should mean we still have 9.5 Z episodes left, which means that they still have to cut 2.5 episodes. The party episode will probably be gone, and half of DBZ episode 287 is also filler so they will probaby cut that too. I think they will end the next episode with the entirety of Z 283, then maybe cut some of the Genki Dama episode, and maybe some minutes of the Tenkaichi Budokai episodes.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by LuckyCat » Sun May 17, 2015 11:15 am

The drop in video quality while Buu is strangling Vegeta is jarring. If they're going to keep filler, they should at least stick to the higher quality animation.
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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by ShaneisMC » Sun May 17, 2015 12:16 pm

LuckyCat wrote:The drop in video quality while Buu is strangling Vegeta is jarring. If they're going to keep filler, they should at least stick to the higher quality animation.
Glad I'm not the only one. Man seriously that straight up looked awful. It was amateur city in the studio that day.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by Rukura » Mon May 18, 2015 6:41 am

ShaneisMC wrote:
LuckyCat wrote:The drop in video quality while Buu is strangling Vegeta is jarring. If they're going to keep filler, they should at least stick to the higher quality animation.
Glad I'm not the only one. Man seriously that straight up looked awful. It was amateur city in the studio that day.
It was incredibly jarring.

For me, the only saving grace for this episode was hearing Joseph Joestar saying ora ora ora :P
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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon May 18, 2015 7:58 pm

I've just come to work out how much content they will have to cut out, (for the International version) and with there being 7 episodes remaining, and this episode finishes midway through Z 282, that leaves 8.5 episodes left to cover, with 7 Kai episodes remaining.
Now, here comes the odd thing, assuming the filler episode goes, no matter where they cut the other 10 minutes from, that would leave the rest to be the same as Z 1:1 right?, well if they don't cut any more, they won't be able to cover all the episodes, as there would be still one remaining.

I think we still have another 20 minutes to cut for the International version, and here is the reason why:

In International Kai #117 they used 2 scenes from earlier Z episodes, they didn't remove the footage - they used it at a later point during this episode, so because they did this on at least 2 occasions, they have at least another episode's worth of content to go, this is why it seems at the moment, that they would be an episode short if they only cut 1.5 worth of content out.
I think it is safe to say they will cut the filler episode out completely (288), and maybe the second half of 287, then the final 3 episodes 289, 290 & 291 will be cut down into two.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by Darkblade1995 » Tue May 19, 2015 6:23 am

DBZ_Lee wrote:I've just come to work out how much content they will have to cut out, (for the International version) and with there being 7 episodes remaining, and this episode finishes midway through Z 282, that leaves 8.5 episodes left to cover, with 7 Kai episodes remaining.
Now, here comes the odd thing, assuming the filler episode goes, no matter where they cut the other 10 minutes from, that would leave the rest to be the same as Z 1:1 right?, well if they don't cut any more, they won't be able to cover all the episodes, as there would be still one remaining.

I think we still have another 20 minutes to cut for the International version, and here is the reason why:

In International Kai #117 they used 2 scenes from earlier Z episodes, they didn't remove the footage - they used it at a later point during this episode, so because they did this on at least 2 occasions, they have at least another episode's worth of content to go, this is why it seems at the moment, that they would be an episode short if they only cut 1.5 worth of content out.
I think it is safe to say they will cut the filler episode out completely (288), and maybe the second half of 287, then the final 3 episodes 289, 290 & 291 will be cut down into two.
Wait, if the episode finishes halfway through Z 282, shouldn't there be 9.5 Z episodes left? So that then leaves 2.5 episodes to be cut. Assuming the filler episode is gone, plus half of 287, that leaves one episode to be cut.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by DBZ_Lee » Tue May 19, 2015 1:53 pm

Darkblade1995 wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote:I've just come to work out how much content they will have to cut out, (for the International version) and with there being 7 episodes remaining, and this episode finishes midway through Z 282, that leaves 8.5 episodes left to cover, with 7 Kai episodes remaining.
Now, here comes the odd thing, assuming the filler episode goes, no matter where they cut the other 10 minutes from, that would leave the rest to be the same as Z 1:1 right?, well if they don't cut any more, they won't be able to cover all the episodes, as there would be still one remaining.

I think we still have another 20 minutes to cut for the International version, and here is the reason why:

In International Kai #117 they used 2 scenes from earlier Z episodes, they didn't remove the footage - they used it at a later point during this episode, so because they did this on at least 2 occasions, they have at least another episode's worth of content to go, this is why it seems at the moment, that they would be an episode short if they only cut 1.5 worth of content out.
I think it is safe to say they will cut the filler episode out completely (288), and maybe the second half of 287, then the final 3 episodes 289, 290 & 291 will be cut down into two.

Wait, if the episode finishes halfway through Z 282, shouldn't there be 9.5 Z episodes left? So that then leaves 2.5 episodes to be cut. Assuming the filler episode is gone, plus half of 287, that leaves one episode to be cut.
291 - 282.5 leaves 8.5 Z episodes remaining.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by Darkblade1995 » Tue May 19, 2015 2:00 pm

291-290-289-288-287-286-285-284-283-282.5

I count 9,5 Z episodes.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by DBZ_Lee » Tue May 19, 2015 2:03 pm

Darkblade1995 wrote:291-290-289-288-287-286-285-284-283-282.5

I count 9,5 Z episodes.
You Sir, are 100% correct, and I need to retake my maths exams lol.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by Darkblade1995 » Tue May 19, 2015 2:04 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:
Darkblade1995 wrote:291-290-289-288-287-286-285-284-283-282.5

I count 9,5 Z episodes.
You Sir, are 100% correct, and I need to retake my maths exams lol.
Lol. I actually also thought for a while that there were 8.5 episodes left. Until I noticed I forgot to count 282 with it XD. We all make mistakes so I wouldn't worry about it.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by DBZ_Lee » Tue May 19, 2015 2:23 pm

Darkblade1995 wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote:
Darkblade1995 wrote:291-290-289-288-287-286-285-284-283-282.5

I count 9,5 Z episodes.
You Sir, are 100% correct, and I need to retake my maths exams lol.
Lol. I actually also thought for a while that there were 8.5 episodes left. Until I noticed I forgot to count 282 with it XD. We all make mistakes so I wouldn't worry about it.
I should have counted 281 and a half, but miscounted hehe. Anyhow, I think the Japanese will cut all filler and breathing room from the last 3 Z episodes, in order to finish an episode earlier.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by Darkblade1995 » Tue May 19, 2015 2:54 pm

^Yeah I'm also curious to see how they are gonna do it. I also think the last episode wil have some sort of recap like the first Kai did. I actually had this idea that the last episode of the International version was some kind of recap-episode, and that's why the Japanese cut doesn't have it. I came up with that because I'm probably sure that Toei was absolutely certain they won't make another DB anime again at the time the Buu arc was produced. So they could finish it with a full 20 minute episode recapping the very best and worst moments of the series. But then I began to question it as I thought that a full 20 minute recap would be a bit too much. But anyways, I guess we'll find out sooner or later.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by Ajay » Fri May 22, 2015 12:34 pm

I only usually pop into these threads to voice my annoyance at them ruining certain scenes, so I thought I'd contribute some positivity this week.

This was an enjoyable episode, surprisingly. The music choices were very nice; using one of my favourite orchestral pieces and leaving out the usual guitar-heavy crap, for once. It's amazing how much of a difference the quality of the music makes, even if the placement isn't 100% perfect.

This scene in particular was the stand out of the episode. I always appreciate a nice bit of Battle of Gods seeping its way in there.

Much like Kai 1.0, the varying animation quality sticks out like a sore thumb when they cut together two episodes, but it's hard to really complain about it. It sucks, but it comes with the process.

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Re: Kai Episode 153 (17 May 2015)

Post by Puto » Fri May 22, 2015 5:38 pm

Listening to that scene, the main thing that comes to mind for me is just how much worse Ryō Horikawa's current voice sounds the more I hear it :/
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