Did Goku's lifespan increased? Theory!

[GokuRules987]

I remember after Goku obtained the Godly ki, Whis later offers him to become the next God of Destruction after Beerus. Whats interesting is that naturally it would be nearly impossible for Goku to even become a God of Destruction because he would have to wait a pretty long time perhaps if not hundreds but even thousands of years which would make that offer impossible with that life span that he has.

But what if after obtaining the Godly ki Gokus lifespan actually increased and his age slowed down. which means that he might be able to live for hundreds or even thousands of years considering how Kai's can live over 75,000 years.
We also dont even know what happened the original super saiyan god as it was never stated that he died from a natural cause. So who knows how long can Goku live now after becoming a deity.
Beerus age on the other hand who has the same ki as Goku is suppost to be around 75 million years old which shows that gods who have godly ki are either immortal or have very long life spans.

[Kamiccolo9]

Being a god didn't increase Kami's lifespan. I don't see why it would Goku's.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

We also dont even know what happened the original super saiyan god as it was never stated that he died from a natural cause. So who knows how long can Goku live now after becoming a deity.

Battle of Gods tells us exactly what happened. His transformation wore off and he died at the hands of the evil Saiyans.

[fadeddreams5]

Being a god didn't increase Kami's lifespan. I don't see why it would Goku's.

Kami is not even really a god. He's just a namekian. I don't recall Dende inheriting any special powers when he became guardian. >_>

The actual gods--Kais and Gods of Destruction--have a ridiculous lifespan.

[GokuRules987]

Being a god didn't increase Kami's lifespan. I don't see why it would Goku's.

Kami doesnt have gods ki though as Goku would have never been able to sense him. Hes an earth guardian nothing more than that!
Even King Kai is on a higher hierarchy level than him.

[Kamiccolo9]

Being a god didn't increase Kami's lifespan. I don't see why it would Goku's.

Kami is not even really a god. He's just a namekian. I don't recall Dende inheriting any special powers when he became guardian. >_>

The actual gods--Kais and Gods of Destruction--have a ridiculous lifespan.

He's as much of a god as Goku. Everything ever written ever about the series, aside from the Funi dub not wanting to say "god" says he's the god of Earth.

Being a god in Dragon Ball is a job, not a species. Kaio and Kaioshin are long lived because they are Kaio and Kaioshin, not because they are gods of creation.

Being a god didn't increase Kami's lifespan. I don't see why it would Goku's.

Kami doesnt have gods ki though as Goku would have never been able to sense him. Hes an earth guardian nothing more than that!
Even King Kai is on a higher hierarchy level than him.

Show me when anyone has ever sensed Kami. As for the rest of your post, refer to my above reply.

[TheGmGoken]

Gohan sensed Kami. When he thought Boo killed everyone on Earth.

[Kamiccolo9]

Gohan sensed Kami. When he thought Boo killed everyone on Earth.

That wasn't Kami.

[TheGmGoken]

Gohan sensed Kami. When he thought Boo killed everyone on Earth.

That wasn't Kami.

Dende is Kami though. He's the God of Earth now. Popo taught him how to be Kami. Therefore he's Kami.

[Kamiccolo9]

Gohan sensed Kami. When he thought Boo killed everyone on Earth.

That wasn't Kami.

Dende is Kami though. He's the God of Earth now. Popo taught him how to be Kami. Therefore he's Kami.

You know who I'm talking about, Goken.
I have my own theories about Dende, but they do not pertain to this thread.

So, if you would, please tell me when anyone ever sensed Kami.

[Chuquita]

Re: OT, because there's been like ten posts since I started typing

I think it's possible, the rules for saiyajin god ki aren't fully written. I like the idea of it, especially since Gokû and Vegeta wouldn't have known about it when they became ssjgs.

The idea that Vegeta accidentally doomed himself to outliving everyone with only Gokû from their group left...

[GokuRules987]

Gohan sensed Kami. When he thought Boo killed everyone on Earth.

That wasn't Kami.

Dude its the same thing, Dende and Kami were both earth guardians with same powers. Or when Kami fused with piccolo he must have had godly in him the entire time? Nope because he wasent able to sense any powerful ki's of beerus when he arrived to bulma's party. Nothing shows that neither piccolo fused with kami or dende had godly ki.

[Kamiccolo9]

Gohan sensed Kami. When he thought Boo killed everyone on Earth.

That wasn't Kami.

Dude its the same thing, Dende and Kami were both earth guardians with same powers. Or when Kami fused with piccolo he must have had godly in him the entire time? Nope because he wasent able to sense any powerful ki's of beerus when he arrived to bulma's party. Nothing shows that neither piccolo fused with kami or dende had godly ki.

Show me when they were "guardians."

They are as much gods as any of the other deities in the series.

[Herms]

Kami doesnt have gods ki though as Goku would have never been able to sense him. Hes an earth guardian nothing more than that!
Even King Kai is on a higher hierarchy level than him.

Just to reiterate what Kamiccolo9 said, but "Guardian of Earth" is merely something the Funi dub made up because at the time they weren't comfortable using the word "God". Thankfully they've improved a bit in that department since then, which is why they're not trying to pass off Beerus as the "Guardian of Destruction". Apart from Funi's quirks, there's nothing in the series distinguishing between the divine status of Beerus, Kaio, and that green idiot. They're all equally gods: kami is simply the Japanese word for "god", and the green guy, Kaio, and Beerus are all referred to as kami in Japanese (hence BoG's Japanese title being Kami to Kami, "God and God"). The only difference with the green one is that he's introduced as just plain "God" before it's eventually clarified that he's only the God of Earth and there's loads of other gods out there. The new idea put forward in BoG and RoF that gods' ki can't be sensed like normal people can be tricky to reconcile with what's come before, but it's no different than the new depiction of Hell, Gohan becoming a Super Saiyan again, or numerous other things like that. There's absolutely nothing in the series suggesting that the old green one or Dende are "just" Namekians rather than true gods in the wacky DB sense of the term.

[GokuRules987]

They are as much gods as any of the other deities in the series.

But they dont have godly ki unless you can show me an actual proof.

[Kamiccolo9]

They are as much gods as any of the other deities in the series.

But they dont have godly ki unless you can show me an actual proof.

I don't have to. I have the actual series itself telling me that they are gods.

Godhood didn't seem to have an effect on Kami's lifespan, since he believed he would die of old age soon in the Saiyan Arc. Therefore, following from that conclusion, godhood shouldn't have any effect on Goku's life. Again, god, in this series, is a job, not a higher power like you are thinking of.

[GokuRules987]

Just to reiterate what Kamiccolo9 said, but "Guardian of Earth" is merely something the Funi dub made up because at the time they weren't comfortable using the word "God". Thankfully they've improved a bit in that department since then, which is why they're not trying to pass off Beerus as the "Guardian of Destruction". Apart from Funi's quirks, there's nothing in the series distinguishing between the divine status of Beerus, Kaio, and that green idiot. They're all equally gods: kami is simply the Japanese word for "god", and the green guy, Kaio, and Beerus are all referred to as kami in Japanese (hence BoG's Japanese title being Kami to Kami, "God and God"). The only difference with the green one is that he's introduced as just plain "God" before it's eventually clarified that he's only the God of Earth and there's loads of other gods out there. The new idea put forward in BoG and RoF that gods' ki can't be sensed like normal people can be tricky to reconcile with what's come before, but it's no different than the new depiction of Hell, Gohan becoming a Super Saiyan again, or numerous other things like that. There's absolutely nothing in the series suggesting that the old green one (or Dende for that matter) are "just" Namekians rather than true gods in the wacky DB sense of the term.

But then why would they make such a big deal out of godly ki? It clearly shows that mortals cannot sense godly ki and goku was able to sense king kai's ki in order to teleport cell to his planet. I am sure that this whole godly ki thing is something that only certain gods actually wield as it would have made everything in the dragon ball completely inconsistent. And Do you still believe that Piccolo then has Godly ki when he wasent able to sense the presence of beerus?

[GokuRules987]

They are as much gods as any of the other deities in the series.

But they dont have godly ki unless you can show me an actual proof.

I don't have to. I have the actual series itself telling me that they are gods.

Godhood didn't seem to have an effect on Kami's lifespan, since he believed he would die of old age soon in the Saiyan Arc. Therefore, following from that conclusion, godhood shouldn't have any effect on Goku's life. Again, god, in this series, is a job, not a higher power like you are thinking of.

I am saying that nothing suggests in the series THAT GODLY KI has been used before. Goku was surprised that he wasent able to sense godly ki and king kai had to explain to him that he cant sense the presence of godly ki's which shows that he never knew that that there were some gods whos ki couldn't be sensed.

[Kamiccolo9]

Just to reiterate what Kamiccolo9 said, but "Guardian of Earth" is merely something the Funi dub made up because at the time they weren't comfortable using the word "God". Thankfully they've improved a bit in that department since then, which is why they're not trying to pass off Beerus as the "Guardian of Destruction". Apart from Funi's quirks, there's nothing in the series distinguishing between the divine status of Beerus, Kaio, and that green idiot. They're all equally gods: kami is simply the Japanese word for "god", and the green guy, Kaio, and Beerus are all referred to as kami in Japanese (hence BoG's Japanese title being Kami to Kami, "God and God"). The only difference with the green one is that he's introduced as just plain "God" before it's eventually clarified that he's only the God of Earth and there's loads of other gods out there. The new idea put forward in BoG and RoF that gods' ki can't be sensed like normal people can be tricky to reconcile with what's come before, but it's no different than the new depiction of Hell, Gohan becoming a Super Saiyan again, or numerous other things like that. There's absolutely nothing in the series suggesting that the old green one (or Dende for that matter) are "just" Namekians rather than true gods in the wacky DB sense of the term.

But then why would they make such a big deal out of godly ki? It clearly shows that mortals cannot sense godly ki and goku was able to sense king kai's ki in order to teleport cell to his planet. I am sure that this whole godly ki thing is something that only certain gods actually wield as it would have made everything in the dragon ball completely inconsistent. And Do you still believe that Piccolo then has Godly ki when he wasent able to sense the presence of beerus?

They don't make a big deal out of it. There's two offhand mentions of not being able to sense Beerus and Goku, and Kaio says that Goku can't sense Beerus's ki. He says nothing about this applying to all gods.

To paraphrase Herms, "the internet, being the internet, ran with it, and turned it into what it is now."

I am saying that nothing suggests in the series THAT GODLY KI has been used before. Goku was surprised that he wasent able to sense godly ki and king kai had to explain to him that he cant sense the presence of godly ki's which shows that he never knew that that there were some gods whos ki couldn't be sensed.

You said it yourself. Some gods.

[fadeddreams5]

I feel we're delving into semantics here. Fine, Kami is "God." But it's not the same thing as what Goku became, what the kais are, or what the god of destruction is. They all have god ki (yes, I know this is a fan term) and a certain form of control over the universe (Goku was offered this). Kami does not. You can argue that no one ever sensed his powers, but every one can sense Dende, who holds the same exact position. Also, Kami wasn't the original Kami either; he's merely a namekian who replaced a previous guardian (I'll still use that term because he IS technically a guardian), just as Dende replaced him. Finally, Piccolo fused with him, yet still possesses regular ki. There is literally nothing unique about Kami. He's just a pretentious green idiot. >_>;