Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

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Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by SaiyajinPrince » Mon May 25, 2015 1:08 pm

Think about it if they have that much chi flowing through them shouldn't they have been evolved enough to never need to eat or drink

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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by Hitiro » Mon May 25, 2015 1:13 pm

SaiyajinPrince wrote:Think about it if they have that much chi flowing through them shouldn't they have been evolved enough to never need to eat or drink
They have to generate Ki from something. Just like how Superman can generate power from the Sun. It is fine for Superman to be like that. But Saiyan's don't have a source to generate energy and Ki.

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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by Doctor. » Mon May 25, 2015 1:13 pm

Hitiro wrote:
SaiyajinPrince wrote:Think about it if they have that much chi flowing through them shouldn't they have been evolved enough to never need to eat or drink
They have to generate Ki from something. Just like how Superman can generate power from the Sun. It is fine for Superman to be like that. But Saiyan's don't have a source to generate energy and Ki.
What source does Freeza have?

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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by Hitiro » Mon May 25, 2015 1:15 pm

Doctor. wrote:What source does Freeza have?
Food I guess? I'm not sure I follow what you mean here, lol.

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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by Super Vegetto » Mon May 25, 2015 2:39 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Hitiro wrote:
SaiyajinPrince wrote:Think about it if they have that much chi flowing through them shouldn't they have been evolved enough to never need to eat or drink
They have to generate Ki from something. Just like how Superman can generate power from the Sun. It is fine for Superman to be like that. But Saiyan's don't have a source to generate energy and Ki.
What source does Freeza have?
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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon May 25, 2015 3:17 pm

Super Vegetto wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
Hitiro wrote:They have to generate Ki from something. Just like how Superman can generate power from the Sun. It is fine for Superman to be like that. But Saiyan's don't have a source to generate energy and Ki.
What source does Freeza have?
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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by Hitiro » Mon May 25, 2015 3:29 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:And red wine.
Don't you mean Kirin Mets Grape flavoured?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon May 25, 2015 3:32 pm

Hitiro wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:And red wine.
Don't you mean Kirin Mets Grape flavoured?
https://youtu.be/mBoIG_oLJTU
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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by Pantalones » Tue May 26, 2015 2:21 am

...huh? What in the world leads you to think that having a high level of ki means you don't need to eat or drink??

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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by Zillamon51 » Tue May 26, 2015 2:02 pm

Ki is not an external power source to draw upon, like the sun is to Superman. It comes from within one's own body. If anything, people who generate that much power should have to eat a lot more. ALL the Z-warriors should scarf like Goku.
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Post by rereboy » Tue May 26, 2015 3:53 pm

Zillamon51 wrote:Ki is not an external power source to draw upon, like the sun is to Superman. It comes from within one's own body. If anything, people who generate that much power should have to eat a lot more. ALL the Z-warriors should scarf like Goku.
Ki comes from the spirit as much as from the body. It's erroneous to think of it as a physical thing, it's much more of a metaphysical thing.

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Post by Zillamon51 » Tue May 26, 2015 4:44 pm

rereboy wrote:
Zillamon51 wrote:Ki is not an external power source to draw upon, like the sun is to Superman. It comes from within one's own body. If anything, people who generate that much power should have to eat a lot more. ALL the Z-warriors should scarf like Goku.
Ki comes from the spirit as much as from the body. It's erroneous to think of it as a physical thing, it's much more of a metaphysical thing.
It's a fake thing so who knows / cares how it works. :roll:
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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by rereboy » Wed May 27, 2015 5:05 am

Zillamon51 wrote:
rereboy wrote:
Zillamon51 wrote:Ki is not an external power source to draw upon, like the sun is to Superman. It comes from within one's own body. If anything, people who generate that much power should have to eat a lot more. ALL the Z-warriors should scarf like Goku.
Ki comes from the spirit as much as from the body. It's erroneous to think of it as a physical thing, it's much more of a metaphysical thing.
It's a fake thing so who knows / cares how it works. :roll:
Er... Fans of the series?

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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by Hitiro » Wed May 27, 2015 9:50 am

Zillamon51 wrote:
rereboy wrote:
Zillamon51 wrote:Ki is not an external power source to draw upon, like the sun is to Superman. It comes from within one's own body. If anything, people who generate that much power should have to eat a lot more. ALL the Z-warriors should scarf like Goku.
Ki comes from the spirit as much as from the body. It's erroneous to think of it as a physical thing, it's much more of a metaphysical thing.
It's a fake thing so who knows / cares how it works. :roll:
Toriyama himself said that Ki has both a spiritual and physical aspect to it so metaphysical would be right in this regard I would think.

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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by DanielSSJ » Thu May 28, 2015 5:26 am

Ki is shown to be a physical energy in Dragon Ball. Using it up uses up stamina and needs to be replenished with food and rest. Freeza doesn't require oxygen because of his unique biology, not his massive Ki supply.
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Re: Shouldn't Saiyans be Breatherians?

Post by Hitiro » Thu May 28, 2015 11:42 am

DanielSSJ wrote:Ki is shown to be a physical energy in Dragon Ball. Using it up uses up stamina and needs to be replenished with food and rest. Freeza doesn't require oxygen because of his unique biology, not his massive Ki supply.
As said previously, Ki is more than just physical energy. Ki also sums up the spiritual energy within characters. Toriyama has said as much.
SEG wrote:What is the key to winning in battle?
In battle, the most important thing is the size of your ki, and your control over it. Ki as a concept of course includes such spiritual powers as energy [genki], courage [yūki], and right-mindedness [shōki]11. No matter how much you train, there are limits to physical strength, and the only way to overcome that is through ki. I think Goku was able to approach the mightiest warriors in the universe through strengthening his ki.

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