How would Freeza react in this situation

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How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:51 pm

If he found out that one of his servants was actually much stronger than he was, yet still remained completely loyal to him and would obey his every order? Would he try to have the servant killed for being so dangerous or would he make use of him?
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:09 pm

He would get Sorbet to kill said strong guy when his guard is down.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:11 pm

Shisami was already stronger than him.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:13 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Shisami was already stronger than him.
How so?
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:15 pm

Freeza would most likely promote that guy.

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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:19 pm

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Shisami was already stronger than him.
How so?
He fought on par with a Super Namekian, who's much, much stronger than SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goku when they defeated Freeza. Prior to training for 4 months, Shisami was stronger than Frieza. Abocado is also stronger.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:28 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
SSJ God Gogeta wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:Shisami was already stronger than him.
How so?
He fought on par with a Super Namekian, who's much, much stronger than SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goku when they defeated Freeza. Prior to training for 4 months, Shisami was stronger than Freeza. Abocado is also stronger.
Was it stated in 'F' that Shisami is stronget than Freeza? For all we know Shisami could be Ginyu level and the only reason Piccolo lost is because by the hand of Toriyama, he took away his power-ups with Kami and Nail and made him weak along with Gohan and anyone else who isn't Goku and Vegeta.

Oh, but he was nice enough to give Roshi a power boost. :P
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:34 pm

The fact that we can scarcely have an intriguing question brought up without people making F jokes just for the sake of F jokes is, quite frankly, depressing.

As for the question at hand...hmm...hard to call. I'd imagine Freeza would probably try to find some way to keep them convinced that he was still stronger than them, while debating whether or not he really wanted to keep someone who could easily turn on him around. It's kind of hard to imagine a DB villain with a twist like that (though I guess Tenshinhan kind of counts when he was working for his master Tsurusennin still).

Actually, had he grown strong enough to surpass him, I could see Ginyu filling a role like that.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by Blackstripe » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:53 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote: It's kind of hard to imagine a DB villain with a twist like that (though I guess Tenshinhan kind of counts when he was working for his master Tsurusennin still).
Babidi too. That was, in fact, his entire modus operandi.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:57 pm

Blackstripe wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote: It's kind of hard to imagine a DB villain with a twist like that (though I guess Tenshinhan kind of counts when he was working for his master Tsurusennin still).
Babidi too. That was, in fact, his entire modus operandi.
Ack, good point! :lol: Let me rephrase that then. It's hard to imagine a DB villain that's a fighter having a twist like that. Though when I say hard to imagine, I mean it's something we haven't had before, so therefore I think it'd be kind of interesting to see.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:32 pm

I'm waiting for more info on the elephant in the room.

Going by personality, I don't think Freeza would keep around someone stronger than him. I don't think his ego would allow it.
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Post by xJeffx » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:50 pm

I could see Freeza keeping him. I mean he has Captain Ginyu who is capable of switching bodies.

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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:51 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:The fact that we can scarcely have an intriguing question brought up without people making F jokes just for the sake of F jokes is, quite frankly, depressing.
I'm not joking. Unless Piccolo, as mentioned, got the Kami slapped out of him off-screen, Shisami should be at Super Namek or Super Saiyan level, making him stronger than Frieza when he's first revived.

Also, Abo and Cado were also stated to have been at Ginyu level, but became as strong as Frieza after several years. Fused together, it's needless to say they are much stronger than him. Thus, it's plausible to assume Shisami is indeed stronger than Frieza at the beginning of F.

In-universe, if Frieza did not react to Shisami's power, it's because he can't sense ki. Off-universe, it's because the movie is a mess as far as power levels/consistency are/is concerned; they just stopped giving a shit.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by Hitiro » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:11 am

dbzfan7 wrote:I'm waiting for more info on the elephant in the room.

Going by personality, I don't think Freeza would keep around someone stronger than him. I don't think his ego would allow it.
Well, even if Freeza didn't want to keep him around what could he actually do about it? If someone is stronger than him all he would be able to do is get stronger himself and assert his dominance. Like xJeffx said, he kept around a potentially dangerous Ginyu despite his ability to swap bodies. If he would keep someone like that around I don't see why he wouldn't keep around someone stronger than him. He already said he could become super strong any way so it doesn't matter if someone is stronger than him. It would only be temporary.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:24 am

Hitiro wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:I'm waiting for more info on the elephant in the room.

Going by personality, I don't think Freeza would keep around someone stronger than him. I don't think his ego would allow it.
Well, even if Freeza didn't want to keep him around what could he actually do about it? If someone is stronger than him all he would be able to do is get stronger himself and assert his dominance. Like XJeffx said, he kept around a potentially dangerous Ginyu despite his ability to swap bodies. If he would keep someone like that around I don't see why he wouldn't keep around someone stronger than him. He already said he could become super strong any way so it doesn't matter if someone is stronger than him. It would only be temporary.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by rereboy » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:07 am

Freeza killed an entire race that had been loyal to him (the saiyans) just because they were getting stronger and could, possibly, maybe, have a chance of becoming a problem in the future.

So, no, he wouldn't tolerate it.

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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:17 pm

^ Which is silly considering any weak soldier could kill him anyways while he was off-guard.


Seriously, F that movie...
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by Darkprince410 » Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:07 pm

rereboy wrote:Freeza killed an entire race that had been loyal to him (the saiyans) just because they were getting stronger and could, possibly, maybe, have a chance of becoming a problem in the future.
Between what was said during the Freeza Saga and Minus, they weren't all that "loyal". While they did what Freeza ordered of them, they were as defiant as could be when it came to doing what he wanted.

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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:08 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:^ Which is silly considering any weak soldier could kill him anyways while he was off-guard.


Seriously, F that movie...
I really don't think that applies to Freeza since his body is naturally tougher than a Saiyan body.

Basically, Goku's basic durability minus his ki is a lot less than Freeza's, but if you factor in his ki it's a lot higher.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:42 pm

xJeffx wrote:I could see Freeza keeping him. I mean he has Captain Ginyu who is capable of switching bodies.

Not quite sure if Ginyu's body swapping technique has any specific requirements, but assuming he would have to be face to face with Frieza in order for it to work, it seems likely that the evil leader would realize that his lackey is attempting to betray him, and would promptly fire a ki blast to thwart his treacherous venture.

If Frieza had a grunt who was above him in power, but was just a brute that didn't really display the intention to rule, I could see the ruthless tyrant manipulating the situation and leveraging the powerful mook strategically. Unlike how he treats his other grunts, for the sake of not getting overthrown, his demeanor towards this one would likely be cordial, even if wishes to act otherwise. With that said, as soon as Frieza decides to train and increase his own power, the once powerful minion would likely be tossed into the same hole as the other grunts who are treated with a condescending approach.

If there was any suspicion that a grunt was intending on outshining his rank, training for greater power would most likely be the fearful leader's first course of action. He probably didn't take this route with the Saiyans, as there would have been no purpose to train against opponents who are already far weaker than him. However, if a lackey displayed traits that hinted towards treachery, and was already far greater than him in power, it seems very plausible for Frieza to begin training immediately upon realizing his own inferior power. I don't even think he would spend time trying to manipulate this grunt, as he would with a misguided brute with no intention of ruling. After gaining the upper hand in power, Frieza would likely one-shot his source of worries, putting all of his fears to rest.

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