How would Freeza react in this situation
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How would Freeza react in this situation
If he found out that one of his servants was actually much stronger than he was, yet still remained completely loyal to him and would obey his every order? Would he try to have the servant killed for being so dangerous or would he make use of him?
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation
He would get Sorbet to kill said strong guy when his guard is down.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation
Shisami was already stronger than him.
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How so?fadeddreams5 wrote:Shisami was already stronger than him.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation
He fought on par with a Super Namekian, who's much, much stronger than SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goku when they defeated Freeza. Prior to training for 4 months, Shisami was stronger than Frieza. Abocado is also stronger.SSJ God Gogeta wrote:How so?fadeddreams5 wrote:Shisami was already stronger than him.
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Was it stated in 'F' that Shisami is stronget than Freeza? For all we know Shisami could be Ginyu level and the only reason Piccolo lost is because by the hand of Toriyama, he took away his power-ups with Kami and Nail and made him weak along with Gohan and anyone else who isn't Goku and Vegeta.fadeddreams5 wrote:He fought on par with a Super Namekian, who's much, much stronger than SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goku when they defeated Freeza. Prior to training for 4 months, Shisami was stronger than Freeza. Abocado is also stronger.SSJ God Gogeta wrote:How so?fadeddreams5 wrote:Shisami was already stronger than him.
Oh, but he was nice enough to give Roshi a power boost.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation
The fact that we can scarcely have an intriguing question brought up without people making F jokes just for the sake of F jokes is, quite frankly, depressing.
As for the question at hand...hmm...hard to call. I'd imagine Freeza would probably try to find some way to keep them convinced that he was still stronger than them, while debating whether or not he really wanted to keep someone who could easily turn on him around. It's kind of hard to imagine a DB villain with a twist like that (though I guess Tenshinhan kind of counts when he was working for his master Tsurusennin still).
Actually, had he grown strong enough to surpass him, I could see Ginyu filling a role like that.
As for the question at hand...hmm...hard to call. I'd imagine Freeza would probably try to find some way to keep them convinced that he was still stronger than them, while debating whether or not he really wanted to keep someone who could easily turn on him around. It's kind of hard to imagine a DB villain with a twist like that (though I guess Tenshinhan kind of counts when he was working for his master Tsurusennin still).
Actually, had he grown strong enough to surpass him, I could see Ginyu filling a role like that.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation
Babidi too. That was, in fact, his entire modus operandi.Gyt Kaliba wrote: It's kind of hard to imagine a DB villain with a twist like that (though I guess Tenshinhan kind of counts when he was working for his master Tsurusennin still).
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Ack, good point!Blackstripe wrote:Babidi too. That was, in fact, his entire modus operandi.Gyt Kaliba wrote: It's kind of hard to imagine a DB villain with a twist like that (though I guess Tenshinhan kind of counts when he was working for his master Tsurusennin still).
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation
I'm waiting for more info on the elephant in the room.
Going by personality, I don't think Freeza would keep around someone stronger than him. I don't think his ego would allow it.
Going by personality, I don't think Freeza would keep around someone stronger than him. I don't think his ego would allow it.
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I could see Freeza keeping him. I mean he has Captain Ginyu who is capable of switching bodies.
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I'm not joking. Unless Piccolo, as mentioned, got the Kami slapped out of him off-screen, Shisami should be at Super Namek or Super Saiyan level, making him stronger than Frieza when he's first revived.Gyt Kaliba wrote:The fact that we can scarcely have an intriguing question brought up without people making F jokes just for the sake of F jokes is, quite frankly, depressing.
Also, Abo and Cado were also stated to have been at Ginyu level, but became as strong as Frieza after several years. Fused together, it's needless to say they are much stronger than him. Thus, it's plausible to assume Shisami is indeed stronger than Frieza at the beginning of F.
In-universe, if Frieza did not react to Shisami's power, it's because he can't sense ki. Off-universe, it's because the movie is a mess as far as power levels/consistency are/is concerned; they just stopped giving a shit.
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Well, even if Freeza didn't want to keep him around what could he actually do about it? If someone is stronger than him all he would be able to do is get stronger himself and assert his dominance. Like xJeffx said, he kept around a potentially dangerous Ginyu despite his ability to swap bodies. If he would keep someone like that around I don't see why he wouldn't keep around someone stronger than him. He already said he could become super strong any way so it doesn't matter if someone is stronger than him. It would only be temporary.dbzfan7 wrote:I'm waiting for more info on the elephant in the room.
Going by personality, I don't think Freeza would keep around someone stronger than him. I don't think his ego would allow it.
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Well I disagree. Not gonna argue about this again.Hitiro wrote:Well, even if Freeza didn't want to keep him around what could he actually do about it? If someone is stronger than him all he would be able to do is get stronger himself and assert his dominance. Like XJeffx said, he kept around a potentially dangerous Ginyu despite his ability to swap bodies. If he would keep someone like that around I don't see why he wouldn't keep around someone stronger than him. He already said he could become super strong any way so it doesn't matter if someone is stronger than him. It would only be temporary.dbzfan7 wrote:I'm waiting for more info on the elephant in the room.
Going by personality, I don't think Freeza would keep around someone stronger than him. I don't think his ego would allow it.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation
Freeza killed an entire race that had been loyal to him (the saiyans) just because they were getting stronger and could, possibly, maybe, have a chance of becoming a problem in the future.
So, no, he wouldn't tolerate it.
So, no, he wouldn't tolerate it.
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^ Which is silly considering any weak soldier could kill him anyways while he was off-guard.
Seriously, F that movie...
Seriously, F that movie...
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation
Between what was said during the Freeza Saga and Minus, they weren't all that "loyal". While they did what Freeza ordered of them, they were as defiant as could be when it came to doing what he wanted.rereboy wrote:Freeza killed an entire race that had been loyal to him (the saiyans) just because they were getting stronger and could, possibly, maybe, have a chance of becoming a problem in the future.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation
I really don't think that applies to Freeza since his body is naturally tougher than a Saiyan body.fadeddreams5 wrote:^ Which is silly considering any weak soldier could kill him anyways while he was off-guard.
Seriously, F that movie...
Basically, Goku's basic durability minus his ki is a lot less than Freeza's, but if you factor in his ki it's a lot higher.
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Re: How would Freeza react in this situation
xJeffx wrote:I could see Freeza keeping him. I mean he has Captain Ginyu who is capable of switching bodies.
Not quite sure if Ginyu's body swapping technique has any specific requirements, but assuming he would have to be face to face with Frieza in order for it to work, it seems likely that the evil leader would realize that his lackey is attempting to betray him, and would promptly fire a ki blast to thwart his treacherous venture.
If Frieza had a grunt who was above him in power, but was just a brute that didn't really display the intention to rule, I could see the ruthless tyrant manipulating the situation and leveraging the powerful mook strategically. Unlike how he treats his other grunts, for the sake of not getting overthrown, his demeanor towards this one would likely be cordial, even if wishes to act otherwise. With that said, as soon as Frieza decides to train and increase his own power, the once powerful minion would likely be tossed into the same hole as the other grunts who are treated with a condescending approach.
If there was any suspicion that a grunt was intending on outshining his rank, training for greater power would most likely be the fearful leader's first course of action. He probably didn't take this route with the Saiyans, as there would have been no purpose to train against opponents who are already far weaker than him. However, if a lackey displayed traits that hinted towards treachery, and was already far greater than him in power, it seems very plausible for Frieza to begin training immediately upon realizing his own inferior power. I don't even think he would spend time trying to manipulate this grunt, as he would with a misguided brute with no intention of ruling. After gaining the upper hand in power, Frieza would likely one-shot his source of worries, putting all of his fears to rest.






