What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

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Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:42 pm

Rocketman wrote:Gohan and Piccolo teaming up in the Tenkaichi 1 opening is the best representation either has gotten in the last 20 years. And that's pretty lame.
Even Raging Blast 2 had SSJ2 Kid Gohan lose to Cooler. While everyone else was evenly match or slightly superior to their villains.
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Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

Post by SMKirbyZX » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:46 pm

The only thing that was lame to me is Dragon Ball Minus, mainly because it contradicts a lot of things.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:46 pm

SMKirbyZX wrote:The only thing that was lame to me is Dragon Ball Minus, mainly because it contradicts a lot of things.
Lots of things in Dragon Ball contradict other things in Dragon Ball. It's kinda the norm.
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Post by Rocketman » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:33 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
SMKirbyZX wrote:The only thing that was lame to me is Dragon Ball Minus, mainly because it contradicts a lot of things.
Lots of things in Dragon Ball contradict other things in Dragon Ball. It's kinda the norm.
There's absolutely nothing redeeming about Minus, though, so there's no need to try to make it work.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:41 pm

Rocketman wrote:Gohan and Piccolo teaming up in the Tenkaichi 1 opening is the best representation either has gotten in the last 20 years. And that's pretty lame.
DBZ Movie 12?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:22 pm

Rocketman wrote:
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SMKirbyZX wrote:The only thing that was lame to me is Dragon Ball Minus, mainly because it contradicts a lot of things.
Lots of things in Dragon Ball contradict other things in Dragon Ball. It's kinda the norm.
There's absolutely nothing redeeming about Minus, though, so there's no need to try to make it work.
But... Gine's cute. That's something redeeming right? :)
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Post by Rocketman » Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:18 pm

Kid Buu wrote:DBZ Movie 12?
Was twenty years and a hundred-ish days ago.
Lord Beerus wrote:But... Gine's cute. That's something redeeming right? :)
No. Worthless smears of shit aren't redeemed by cuteness.
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Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:23 pm

Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans?
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Post by Noah » Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:25 pm

Scarf Goku

I'm mean, what the hell? :lol:

Did Goku got himself a personal fashion stylist?
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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:54 am

Noah wrote:Scarf Goku

I'm mean, what the hell? :lol:

Did Goku got himself a personal fashion stylist?
Isnt that part of his Radish farming attire though?
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:12 am

Noah wrote:Scarf Goku

I'm mean, what the hell? :lol:

Did Goku got himself a personal fashion stylist?
You never watch the 2008 OVA have you?
Goku is a Raddish farmer.
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Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

Post by Luso Saiyan » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:15 am

Kid Buu wrote:Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans?
That's quite old.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:30 am

Luso Saiyan wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans?
That's quite old.
I believe he means the reanimated and abridged version that came out in 2010.
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Post by Noah » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:40 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Noah wrote:Scarf Goku

I'm mean, what the hell? :lol:

Did Goku got himself a personal fashion stylist?
You never watch the 2008 OVA have you?
Goku is a Raddish farmer.
I wasn't serious, dude
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Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

Post by Super_Subzero » Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:54 am

Everything except Jaco The Galactic Patrolman and Battle of Gods.
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Post by Vice » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:00 am

Kid Buu wrote: DBZ Movie 12?
Piccolo wasn't even in that one.
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Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

Post by MajinMan » Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:34 am

I like pretty much all the new stuff. Except Minus. And Episode of Bardock. Those were trash and sadly one of them is potentially canon. Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans is meh as well, no real opinion on it.
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Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:11 pm

SMKirbyZX wrote:The only thing that was lame to me is Dragon Ball Minus, mainly because it contradicts a lot of things.
I thought the artwork was also pretty poor within it as well.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
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Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:16 pm

  • Vegeta's rage boost: It doesn't make much sense, and there was no reason for it to happen. Unless we learn more about it in Super, and make sense from it.
  • Bardock's survival: His death in the TV Special was perfect, and there was no reason to make him go back in time & make him a Super Saiyan, or give him SS2 & SS3, or to have Mira save him and keep him alive in the future.
  • Broli's power: I like Broli, and I liked seeing him in hypothetical SS2, SS3, Golden Oozaru, and SS4, but there was no reason for the video games to treat him as the strongest villain in his LSS form.
  • Goku's origins: Ι don't have any issue with Gine, but I preferred Goku being a low-class weakling that was sent away as trash to Earth instead of his good parents saving him from Freeza.
  • Golden Oozaru Broli & Gogeta: I'm OK with them getting this form, but why the fuck didn't their clothes get destroyed after their transformation?!
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Re: What is the lamest thing to come out of modern DBZ?

Post by Sun Wukong » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:04 pm

Dayspring wrote:-Lack of Onio. I have no problems with the series returning to its slapstick gag-manga origins as it already did that post-Cell Games. But since they are, I want to see Onio's origin story.
Who's Onio?
Luso Saiyan wrote:This is probably the lamest thing I can think of.
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Were is that image from?
Rocketman wrote:Do you remember how for the past two decades or so people have been mocking or complaining about GT's Goku (aka Godku aka Base Kid Goku) hogging all the screentime to the detriment of everybody else?

Well now bog is here, and apparently people love that exact same shit, so long as it's Toriyama's extrusion and not Toei's.
Yeah. Although these movies are better but they are still essentially the same thing. Would be cool to see if DBGT/DBO is an alternate universe will Super have universe 7 intersect with them.
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  • Bardock's survival: His death in the TV Special was perfect, and there was no reason to make him go back in time & make him a Super Saiyan, or give him SS2 & SS3, or to have Mira save him and keep him alive in the future.
  • Broli's power: I like Broli, and I liked seeing him in hypothetical SS2, SS3, Golden Oozaru, and SS4, but there was no reason for the video games to treat him as the strongest villain in his LSS form.
  • Golden Oozaru Broli & Gogeta: I'm OK with them getting this form, but why the fuck didn't their clothes get destroyed after their transformation?!
When did these happen? Are these all in DBO? If not source(s) please?
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