If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:18 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:It surprises me to see so many say that they can't see the Goku/Bulma parring as I feel that parring had all the generic anime parring signs.
I'm more surprised so few are down for Snow alternatively when she easily blows Bulma out of the water as waifu material.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by soulnova » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:39 am

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miguelnuva1 wrote:It surprises me to see so many say that they can't see the Goku/Bulma parring as I feel that parring had all the generic anime parring signs.
I'm more surprised so few are down for Snow alternatively when she easily blows Bulma out of the water as waifu material.
I went back and made a small count on what pairing were people supporting (sometimes more than one).

BULMA (total 9)
FatNagger69 
Akyon
Marco Polo
Gyt Kaliba
Soulnova
Buutenks
Sanyo96
Miguelnuva1



SUNO (total 10 )
One_instance
shonenhikada
Gyt Kaliba
Soulnova
Miguelnuva1
supercat
DBZAOTA482
ChiChiFan 
supercat

VEGETA ( 2 )
Basaku
Soulnova :shifty:
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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:14 am

ChiChiFan and supercat don't support Bulku. They support Goku x Suno.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by Doctor. » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:17 am

I'd say Vegeta would be pretty interested if Goku remained unmarried throughout the entire series.

Can't say the same thing about Goku being interested in Vegeta, though.

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by Chuquita » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:40 am

If they were both unmarried (Vegeta loves Bulma too much to leave her) and had no significant others, I could see Vegeta as a legit contender (the tsundere contender, but a contender none the less). Gokû, however, is Gokû, so I doubt he would notice a thing unless it was spelled out like how Chi-Chi did it. And since Vegeta is so incredibly tsundere it would turn into a years-long game of "will they or won't they?" that would only culminate once Vegeta throws caution to the wind and Gokû starts figuring things out.
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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by Rocketman » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:41 am

soulnova wrote:As someone just pointed me out on tumblr... we are not thinking what would have happened with Chichi.
She'd become a powerful martial artist and join the Z Squad during the Saiyan and Namek arcs, though she's a liiittle too eager to attack Ginyu-Goku. Vegeta sees her kill one of the beaten Ginyus and gets a fearection, then when they get back to Earth he's all "yo gurl" and she's all "step into my office" then they're smashing each other through forests and mountains and animal-people's homes.

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by soulnova » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:23 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:ChiChiFan and supercat don't support Bulku. They support Goku x Suno.
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Doctor. wrote:I'd say Vegeta would be pretty interested if Goku remained unmarried throughout the entire series.

Can't say the same thing about Goku being interested in Vegeta, though.
Is not like he was interested in Chichi when he accepted to marry her to begin with. :lol:
Chuquita wrote:If they were both unmarried (Vegeta loves Bulma too much to leave her) and had no significant others, I could see Vegeta as a legit contender (the tsundere contender, but a contender none the less). Gokû, however, is Gokû, so I doubt he would notice a thing unless it was spelled out like how Chi-Chi did it. And since Vegeta is so incredibly tsundere it would turn into a years-long game of "will they or won't they?" that would only culminate once Vegeta throws caution to the wind and Gokû starts figuring things out.
Yeah, Goku is oblivious to those types of interactions. He didn't even noticed Vegeta's awkwardness when he asked to hold his hand in RoF. In that regard, they need to spell it out clearly for him. Or who knows. It could turn out Goku eventually gets the hint after all that time and knowing Vegeta's pride gets in the way, takes the first step himself.
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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by supercat » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:53 pm

Anyone else feel that if Goku married Suno, Android 8 would more or less have filled in the role for Ox King?

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by Chuquita » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:24 pm

Re: Gokû realizing and taking the first step

Gokû's so blunt; it'd probably be a no-preparation, out-of-the-blue, " ベジータ, 大好き!"

Vegeta's stunned reaction-face would be so incredibly worth it. X3


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I need to see that scene. I'm so curious about it; looking at pixiv fanart and one static screenshot/scan doesn't do it proper. I want to actually see those Vegeta reaction-faces as they happen. X3 (He has some of my favorite reaction-faces in this series).
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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by soulnova » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:10 am

supercat wrote:Anyone else feel that if Goku married Suno, Android 8 would more or less have filled in the role for Ox King?
Yes. This was my first thought too. They would have also have needed to move to Mt. Paoz because Goku simply couldn't handle the cold very well. xD I imagine Suno would always wear cute summer dresses. *0*
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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by Rocketman » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:13 am

They've literally been one.

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by supercat » Wed Jun 17, 2015 2:38 am

soulnova wrote:
supercat wrote:Anyone else feel that if Goku married Suno, Android 8 would more or less have filled in the role for Ox King?
Yes. This was my first thought too. They would have also have needed to move to Mt. Paoz because Goku simply couldn't handle the cold very well. xD I imagine Suno would always wear cute summer dresses. *0*
I don't think Suno would have minded relocating to Mt. Paoz at all. In fact, I think the sequence of events would have unfolded rather interestingly.

As for Android 8, I could totally visualize him and Goku going fishing together, or even bringing home a large tree trunk for firewood.

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by Hitiro » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:23 pm

The issue is if Goku didn't have Gohan then Goku and Piccolo would have died to Raditz. So it would be the end of the world at the beginning of the Saiyan arc. XD

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

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Hitiro wrote:The issue is if Goku didn't have Gohan then Goku and Piccolo would have died to Raditz. So it would be the end of the world at the beginning of the Saiyan arc. XD
Well, Goku and Suno could have also produced a child with the same capabilities of Gohan. Who knows, maybe this kid would have inherited even greater power.

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

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supercat wrote:
Hitiro wrote:The issue is if Goku didn't have Gohan then Goku and Piccolo would have died to Raditz. So it would be the end of the world at the beginning of the Saiyan arc. XD
Well, Goku and Suno could have also produced a child with the same capabilities of Gohan. Who knows, maybe this kid would have inherited even greater power.
Most definitely not. Snow has no combat history whatsoever while Chi-Chi was a natural born warrior being the daughter of the Demon Emperor Gyumao and all. She has the genes of a martial artist master (and she becomes one) which Gohan likely inherited in addition to Goku's Saiyan genes.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by soulnova » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:03 pm

Yeah, the main difference would be who the mother is and perhaps there's a chance this kid could be just a redheaded Gohan. ....

Hahhaa something like this?


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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

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Hitiro wrote:The issue is if Goku didn't have Gohan then Goku and Piccolo would have died to Raditz. So it would be the end of the world at the beginning of the Saiyan arc. XD
Well, Goku and Suno could have also produced a child with the same capabilities of Gohan. Who knows, maybe this kid would have inherited even greater power.
Most definitely not. Snow has no combat history whatsoever while Chi-Chi was a natural born warrior being the daughter of the Demon Emperor Gyumao and all. She has the genes of a martial artist master (and she becomes one) which Gohan likely inherited in addition to Goku's Saiyan genes.

Gohan didn't inherit Chi Chi's ability to fight. The kid's potential could likely be a result of his father's powerful Saiyan genes being uniquely blended with the genes of a human.

Look at how powerful Trunks was despite Bulma's complete absence from anything even remotely akin to combat.

Despite her parents being exceptionally powerful fighters who possessed a higher battle power than Goku during the time Gohan was born, Marron likely didn't inherit any innate power. Although, the absence of Saiyan genes may have been a variable there.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:24 pm

supercat wrote:Gohan didn't inherit Chi Chi's ability to fight. The kid's potential could likely be a result of his father's powerful Saiyan genes being uniquely blended with the genes of a human.

Look at how powerful Trunks was despite Bulma's complete absence from anything even remotely akin to combat.

Despite her parents being exceptionally powerful fighters who possessed a higher battle power than Goku during the time Gohan was born, Marron likely didn't inherit any innate power. Although, the absence of Saiyan genes may have been a variable there.
You're the one who brought up Gohan possibly having greater natural ability if Goku married Snow even though she has no combat history whatsoever so don't start.

Yet Trunks was only slightly above Goten despite having a far far stronger teacher.

Saiyan genes likely works definitely than human genes and #18's powers aren't really her's.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

Post by supercat » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:43 pm

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supercat wrote:Gohan didn't inherit Chi Chi's ability to fight. The kid's potential could likely be a result of his father's powerful Saiyan genes being uniquely blended with the genes of a human.

Look at how powerful Trunks was despite Bulma's complete absence from anything even remotely akin to combat.

Despite her parents being exceptionally powerful fighters who possessed a higher battle power than Goku during the time Gohan was born, Marron likely didn't inherit any innate power. Although, the absence of Saiyan genes may have been a variable there.
You're the one who brought up Gohan possibly having greater natural ability if Goku married Snow even though she has no combat history whatsoever so don't start.

Yet Trunks was only slightly above Goten despite having a far far stronger teacher.

Saiyan genes likely works definitely than human genes and #18's powers aren't really her's.

I said it was a possibility. We're talking about a hypothetical scenario here, so anything could HYPOTHETICALLY be POSSIBLE.

You went on about how Chi Chi's genes likely had some special contribution towards Gohan's powers, and how Suno's lack of combat history would likely have done no good. I was trying to point out the fact that combat experience wasn't that relevant if we look at how the other kids have turned out.

It doesn't matter if Trunks is only marginally above Goten. The point is, the kid was still strong despite his mother not having a day of battle experience under her belt. In addition Vegeta was weaker than Goku at the time, so that would make both of Trunks' parents weaker than Goten's.

I did indicate that Marron being a human may affect how she inherits power.

Of the two parents, I could see the parent with the Saiyan genes having some degree of influence on their offspring's inborn power. I don't think the human parent's experience or even negligible difference in power would make the slightest bit of difference.

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Re: If Goku didn't marry Chi Chi

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supercat wrote:You're the one who brought up Gohan possibly having greater natural ability if Goku married Snow even though she has no combat history whatsoever so don't start.

Yet Trunks was only slightly above Goten despite having a far far stronger teacher.

Saiyan genes likely works definitely than human genes and #18's powers aren't really her's.

I said it was a possibility. We're talking about a hypothetical scenario here, so anything could HYPOTHETICALLY be POSSIBLE.

You went on about how Chi Chi's genes likely had some special contribution towards Gohan's powers, and how Suno's lack of combat history would likely have done no good. I was trying to point out the fact that combat experience wasn't that relevant if we look at how the other kids have turned out.

It doesn't matter if Trunks is only marginally above Goten. The point is, the kid was still strong despite his mother not having a day of battle experience under her belt. In addition Vegeta was weaker than Goku at the time, so that would make both of Trunks' parents weaker than Goten's.

I did indicate that Marron being a human may affect how she inherits power.

Of the two parents, I could see the parent with the Saiyan genes having some degree of influence on their offspring's inborn power. I don't think the human parent's experience or even negligible difference in power would make the slightest bit of difference.[/quote]What makes Gohan, Gohan is who his parents are. You can't have him without having both Goku and Chi Chi. The combination of these two people is what made Gohan into a ridiculous power house. Something was clearly unique when Gohan was brought into the world because neither Chi Chi nor Bulma produced a kid like that again. All they produced were some strong kids because of their fathers having SSJ. Gohan was the only child to be so powerful he could be extremely above Goku and Vegeta if he actually trained. At best Goten and Trunks would rival their parents in power if they genuinely took their training seriously because Gohan is the only character considered to have talent far surpassing anyone else. So taking Chi Chi out of the equation is going to make a character Saiyan hybrid that isn't Gohan and more than likely follows Goten and Trunks rather than Gohan.

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