"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Wilderness]

Right and your random bout of amnesia made you forget that there was an event that prevented the natural progression when it comes to the whole class change. It is called RESURRECTION F MOVIE!!!

So at this point since the last set of missions gave then at the 3rd mission and it wasn't interrupted by movie then we will probably have to wait until GDM5 in November.

I particularly remember when you stood by your claims that a 'blue mystic Vegeta' would be the one who destroys Freeza in Resurrection F. You were 100% certain and spoke down to anyone who said you've been misled. I am entirely confused as to where you get your information from but so far it's only made you look a bit silly. Please consider saving yourself the embarrassment from now on, and maybe you'll earn some credibility.

Personally I feel that the SSJ4 movement has come to a finish in Heroes. As much as Bardock has been milked dry, I don't see them making a SSJ4 Bardock.

Who said anything about a SS4 Bardock lol? You really need to read. Plus it was Toriyama that decided to screw Vegeta over not ME. Heck he is even screwing over DBZ Battle of Gods using Super.

Back to topic: The Saiyan Avatars will receive SS4 sooner or later. Because I know Dimps wouldn't want to be called lazy and just give them the SSGSS transformation. Heck Dimps hates the form as we see in Xenoverse.

But anyway I hope we get a good trailer this time. I need my trailer fix lol.

The Bardock talk was aside from what I was saying to you, it wasn't relevant to what I was talking to you specifically about. And Toriyama screwed Vegeta over? So at the last minute, he decided to change this ending that you knew so much about and reanimate, record new voice over work, just to have Goku the winner? No. What you were saying is that the movie WILL end a certain way and it couldn't have been further from the truth. Admit it, you were wrong all along about the ending. You seem to come up with theories or hear fan work and take them for truth. It's irritating, childish, and you need to stop. Then again, you failed to see my point last time, and you'll probably fail to see my point this time.

However, I agree with you that the trailers need to come back. They're what got me into playing DBHeroes.

[GoldLiger]

Toriyama is known to change is mind quicker than a chipmunk on steroids. While I admire you defending AT but face the facts. DBSuper is basically retconning the original plot of Battle of Gods. He even said this himself that he wanted Vegeta to be the main focus of the movie.

But whatever it doesn't matter anyway. So back on topic: Has anyone got the scans for the V-Jump magazine that shows in clear detail about the info?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

All the important info that can be gathered without a translation has already been posted: we're getting Kaioshin avatars, Towa and the Time Kaioshin are going to war, and Bardock: Xeno is getting SS3.

That said, I was hoping we'd have gotten a summary of V-Jump's game contents from Kanzenshuu by now, but I understand that they have their hands full with all the Super stuff happening. So there was hope that Shonen Gamez would at least translate the character and story material (all the actual card stuff wouldn't really be worth the time), but I'm not sure if I should even expect that. Kind of disappointing that now that Heroes is actually getting some semblance of an actual story with the "Dark Demon Realm Arc", there is actually less coverage for the game...

[Lord Frieza]

Who wants to bet that Champa gets announced as a character in the next mission?

[Herms]

Towa and the Time Kaioshin are going to war

If that's a translation of トワと時の界王神は参戦決定みたい from last page, then that just means Towa and the Time Kaioshin are "joining the battle" rather than going to war against each other. It's most likely a way of saying that they're going to become playable characters (it's similar to how the announcement of the new Kaioshin avatars was phrased). Of course, it's phrased as speculation (みたい), so I guess it's nothing definite. Probably just someone making the same "hey, Time Kaioshin's next to Trunks! Is she going to playable?" observation you did.

There's also that "Super Beerus Arc" that's apparently next after the Demon Realm one. So either Beerus is getting some sort of super form, or...it's based around the DB Super version of the Beerus arc.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Ah, no that wasn't an actual translation of anything. It was just me making a statement based on how this upcoming mission is designed. The icon for it has Trunks and the Time Kaioshin on one side, with Towa on the other; and the missions themselves are set up with some for each faction. Trunks and the Time Kaioshin's missions start off with facing some DBO inspired Majin grunts, and Towa's starts with facing Kibito and East Kaioshin.

All of this mirrors the actual Freeza Army vs. Saiyan Army war mission from a while back.

[Lord Frieza]

All of this mirrors the actual Freeza Army vs. Saiyan Army war mission from a while back.

That could mean that Champa could descend from on high and blown everyone to hell like Beerus in the last war mission.

[BlazingBarrrager]

I seriously hope the Saiyan avatars don't get SSJ4, God Form, and SSJ God Form. I mean I get that it's their thing and that the other avatars are pretty much on par with the transformations, but still.

...freaken badass how the Namek Berserker in Victory Mission owned Majin SSJ3 Vegeta without even trying though.

[EveBlaze31]

I at least want to see the Frieza Race characters get the Ultimate Evolution transformation or a costume that matches it.

[GoldLiger]

I seriously hope the Saiyan avatars don't get SSJ4, God Form, and SSJ God Form. I mean I get that it's their thing and that the other avatars are pretty much on par with the transformations, but still.

...freaken badass how the Namek Berserker in Victory Mission owned Majin SSJ3 Vegeta without even trying though.

If Dimps didn't want the Saiyan avatars to go SS4 then they would have eliminated the tails when they FIRST got the class up change. Besides aren't you curious to see a Female Super Saiyan 4? I know I am. Plus we are getting a SS3 Bardock(Xeno), so at this point giving the saiyan avatars SS4 should be a piece of cake for them.

[KentalSSJ6]

I seriously hope the Saiyan avatars don't get SSJ4, God Form, and SSJ God Form. I mean I get that it's their thing and that the other avatars are pretty much on par with the transformations, but still.

...freaken badass how the Namek Berserker in Victory Mission owned Majin SSJ3 Vegeta without even trying though.

If Dimps didn't want the Saiyan avatars to go SS4 then they would have eliminated the tails when they FIRST got the class up change. Besides aren't you curious to see a Female Super Saiyan 4? I know I am. Plus we are getting a SS3 Bardock(Xeno), so at this point giving the saiyan avatars SS4 should be a piece of cake for them.

Giving yet another character SSJ3 in Heroes is nothing new. Almost anyone who is a Saiyan has it now so this is just a walk in the park.

[BlazingBarrrager]

If Dimps didn't want the Saiyan avatars to go SS4 then they would have eliminated the tails when they FIRST got the class up change. Besides aren't you curious to see a Female Super Saiyan 4? I know I am. Plus we are getting a SS3 Bardock(Xeno), so at this point giving the saiyan avatars SS4 should be a piece of cake for them.

Giving yet another character SSJ3 in Heroes is nothing new. Almost anyone who is a Saiyan has it now so this is just a walk in the park.

And yet still no SSJ Pan. Also, has Goten got anything else besides normal SSJ, GT SSJ, and Baby possession?

As for seeing a female SSJ4 I honestly don't care since I dislike the form to begin with. Besides, I feel that SSJ4 Broli is enough "what-if" SSJ4 users as it is.

[GoldLiger]

If Dimps didn't want the Saiyan avatars to go SS4 then they would have eliminated the tails when they FIRST got the class up change. Besides aren't you curious to see a Female Super Saiyan 4? I know I am. Plus we are getting a SS3 Bardock(Xeno), so at this point giving the saiyan avatars SS4 should be a piece of cake for them.

Giving yet another character SSJ3 in Heroes is nothing new. Almost anyone who is a Saiyan has it now so this is just a walk in the park.

And yet still no SSJ Pan. Also, has Goten got anything else besides normal SSJ, GT SSJ, and Baby possession?

As for seeing a female SSJ4 I honestly don't care since I dislike the form to begin with. Besides, I feel that SSJ4 Broli is enough "what-if" SSJ4 users as it is.

And like I said before while one's opinion is okay, it is minuscule compared to how Dimps treat the form. All you have to do is look at Xenoverse to find out Dimps opinion on Super Saiyan 4. Give the saiyan avatars SSG or SSGSS is stupid and lazy on Dimps part. Heck you can tell they absolutely HATE the SSGSS name to the point they don't even make TP Trunks say it.

And to be honest while a lot of people may hate GT they all have one thing on their minds deep down: "That Super Saiyan 4 has the best design choice then both SSG and SSGSS combined".

[ChahikoDBZ]

"That Super Saiyan 4 has the best design choice then both SSG and SSGSS combined".

I can't deny that. I agree. Super Saiyan 4 was truly a unique design and much more unique than both of the God forms which mainly deal with recoloring a few things and making the body slimmer. Don't get me wrong, I love the God form designs.

[BlazingBarrrager]

And to be honest while a lot of people may hate GT they all have one thing on their minds deep down: "That Super Saiyan 4 has the best design choice then both SSG and SSGSS combined".

Odd. I don't have that thing deep in my mind.

Also, who said that Saiyan avatars even need a new transformation? Having SSJ3 is pretty good and it should stay their highest transformation, and if they need a new form they can just use Elder Kaioshin's Unlock Potential form like in Xenoverse.

[Chuquita]

Re: ssj4

Instead of fur, I wonder if making it similar coloured markings in a pattern instead of all over would've looked better. It wouldn't be fluffy anymore obviously, but...I dunno.

Only thing I'm really not crazy about with 4 is the eyeliner. And I wish they could've done something more with Vegeta's hair because his hair style doesn't take to it the way Gokû's does.

I dig their different individual colour schemes in 4 though.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Again, why do they need a new form? They have SSJ3, which is ridiculously powerful enough as it is. They don't need SSJ4 and they don't need God Form/SSJ God Form. If anything, giving them Unlock Potential would be the best route if Dimps decides to go with it. At least then all the other avatars would have a transformation to use as well.

[GoldLiger]

Again, why do they need a new form? They have SSJ3, which is ridiculously powerful enough as it is. They don't need SSJ4 and they don't need God Form/SSJ God Form. If anything, giving them Unlock Potential would be the best route if Dimps decides to go with it. At least then all the other avatars would have a transformation to use as well.

Why? It is simple. It is to truly test the limits of creativity for Dimps' character designer. Just think on it, the one who can create a unique female SS4 will earn lots of $$$$$. Plus when they introduced SS3 females it really shows how unique it was from the male counterpart. I know you won't understand it because you are currently tired of the BS Toriyama is currently spewing out(Red is stronger than Blue because Red is a power color lol) but you need to go beyond what Toriyama can bring. A Female SSG or SSGSS is as easy as just making the characters hair and eyes red or blue. But a SS4 version of those six avatars would really test the creativity of those artists. And from there they can go work for Toei Animation and make new original characters for DB Super with the approval of Toriyama(even though I highly doubt it).

So in conclusion the reason why "I" and any fan of the SS4 form wants the saiyan avatars to get the form is because the form is awesome and nobody can deny it when compare to what we have now.

[Darknat]

The Avatars don't need new transformations. However, they'll have a new one eventually for marketing reasons.

And for marketing reasons they'll go to the easy more marketable form right now which is probably SSGSS. They just have to change the color of the Super Saiyan transformation and that's it. No 3D modelling needed at all. They already did something like that with Super Saiyan 2 Bardock back in the day.

Designing a female super saiyan 4 won't give anyone more money than designing a SSGSS. Heroes is still popular and the fans will keep playing regardless. I'm not saying that we shouldn't or we wouldn't get a SS4 eventually for the Avatars, but I think it's probably going to be the new forms before that, specially if Super shows them eventually.

[DNA]

So in conclusion the reason why "I" and any fan of the SS4 form wants the saiyan avatars to get the form is because the form is awesome and nobody can deny it when compare to what we have now.

I'm a huge fan of the Super Saiyan 4 transformation and I don't want the avatars to get it and water it down. You do not speak for me, for the fans, for Dimps, or anyone else for that matter. Speak for yourself, voice your own opinions and stop speaking in behalf of others.