"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:50 pm

One Piece Episode #590, specifically. Shida Naotoshi animated those shots and also storyboarded that episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Kakarotto92 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:55 pm

Scott wrote:
shinmaru wrote: I liked the Ultimate Tenkaichi opening animation, especially the dark coloring tones they used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHyGPjlk8k Some of heroes PV where good too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL5ff_yQHZw
I'm really not a fan of the curret animation we are seeing in Dragon Ball. Everything just seems off, the characters don't quite look like themselves anymore. Their hair is usally too short, their face shape doesn't look right, a lot of the characters look too thin, and i don't think they blend in well with the backgrounds like they used to. Either CGI animation doesn't work for Dragon Ball or it's just not being done right. I personally think it's just not being done right because the two videos you posted above looks more like how Dragon Ball should be done now.
Ultimate Tenkaichi opening was also designed by Yamamuro though

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:03 pm

Kakarotto92 wrote:
Scott wrote:
shinmaru wrote: I liked the Ultimate Tenkaichi opening animation, especially the dark coloring tones they used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PHyGPjlk8k Some of heroes PV where good too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL5ff_yQHZw
I'm really not a fan of the curret animation we are seeing in Dragon Ball. Everything just seems off, the characters don't quite look like themselves anymore. Their hair is usally too short, their face shape doesn't look right, a lot of the characters look too thin, and i don't think they blend in well with the backgrounds like they used to. Either CGI animation doesn't work for Dragon Ball or it's just not being done right. I personally think it's just not being done right because the two videos you posted above looks more like how Dragon Ball should be done now.
Ultimate Tenkaichi opening was also designed by Yamamuro though
He was character designer and animation supervisor but all of the key animators were talented and working from a storyboard and direction by Nagamine Tatsuya. It could be Nagamine asked Yamamuro to not correct as much. Then again, it could be that Yamamuro wasn't even allowed to correct at all.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by soulnova » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:20 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:Here's my attempt at correcting that Vegeta shot (my correction is on the left):
I used some Z screenshots as a reference point.

What I did was lowered his eyes and nose a bit, and centered them better. I also repositioned his mouth, since it wasn't quite aligned, and I redid the wrinkle to be under his mouth, since more upset reactions in Z tended to place that wrinkle there to show more of a grimace. I redid the cheekbone shading, and I completely redrew his nose, since it was too trangular, short and simplified, and I also pulled in and sharpened his jawline. I extended the wrinkles under his eyes and added shading to the edge, since that was they tended to look in the Buu arc, and I also extended his upper brow wrinkle slightly. I extended his hair since it was way too short, and also added a few strands. I also eliminated that plastic shine, since it just looks bad, as well as the hair shading, since it looked to much like plastic. I also drew in his ear lobe and I also extended some lines in his ear, since it looked incomplete and mushy originally.

I'd like to think I covered everything. :mrgreen:
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by pappy » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:09 am

Awesome job metalwario! I, too, hate the shine effect they place on the hair and how plastic their faces look nowadays.

My two cents on the animation quality and art style critiques: seems pretty stinkin' fair considering this is a forum about an animated show. Probably one of the most valid forms of criticism on here actually. A better use of time would be to counter argue with how you like the way things look, or how you're maybe indifferent to them. I mean, talking about how the show is presented to us—sounds like a worthwhile discussion to me.
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Post by GokuRules987 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:19 am

the shiny one looks better and gives more 3d depth look to vegeta which i like.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cipher » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:57 am

Sorry, wait, why is everyone up in arms about this maybe rehashing the movies? I just took a pass through recent announcements and the 30-second trailer, and nothing indicated that to me.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:04 am

The plastic shine adds more depth only when it's done correctly.
Can't point out the difference. It just looks "right" to me.
For adding depth, an extra layer of shading would do much better than those things.
Also, I dislike the way they draw straight hair now. It's just too lazy. Especially in the manga.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:11 am

Anyone know if Shida worked on Fukkatsu No F? And if he did, what scene did he do?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by snaku » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:36 am

Cipher wrote:Sorry, wait, why is everyone up in arms about this maybe rehashing the movies? I just took a pass through recent announcements and the 30-second trailer, and nothing indicated that to me.
Seems like baseless speculation to me. People are just grasping at the very limited information we have, and extrapolating from that.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:45 am

The official Dragon Ball Super Twitter page just posted this. It's the last shot from the show's ending credits.
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Nawww look at that smile. You can't get angry at a face like that.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:55 am

Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:The official Dragon Ball Super Twitter page just posted this. It's the last shot from the show's ending credits.
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Nawww look at that smile. You can't get angry at a face like that.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by MrKaytos » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:24 am

Metalwario64 wrote:Here's my attempt at correcting that Vegeta shot (my correction is on the left):

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I used some Z screenshots as a reference point.

What I did was lowered his eyes and nose a bit, and centered them better. I also repositioned his mouth, since it wasn't quite aligned, and I redid the wrinkle to be under his mouth, since more upset reactions in Z tended to place that wrinkle there to show more of a grimace. I redid the cheekbone shading, and I completely redrew his nose, since it was too trangular, short and simplified, and I also pulled in and sharpened his jawline. I extended the wrinkles under his eyes and added shading to the edge, since that was they tended to look in the Buu arc, and I also extended his upper brow wrinkle slightly. I extended his hair since it was way too short, and also added a few strands. I also eliminated that plastic shine, since it just looks bad, as well as the hair shading, since it looked to much like plastic. I also drew in his ear lobe and I also extended some lines in his ear, since it looked incomplete and mushy originally.

I'd like to think I covered everything. :mrgreen:
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SansrivaaL » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:26 am

Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:The official Dragon Ball Super Twitter page just posted this. It's the last shot from the show's ending credits.
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Nawww look at that smile. You can't get angry at a face like that.
Damn.... and people dare say Goku has no charisma!!! that face says it all :clap:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:42 am

That bit with Trunks and Goten, does that say Gohan's getting married? If so do we get his and Videl's wedding after all?

Thought I saw 'kekkon', but not sure. 結婚。
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Post by Blade » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:18 am

Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:The official Dragon Ball Super Twitter page just posted this. It's the last shot from the show's ending credits.
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Nawww look at that smile. You can't get angry at a face like that.
It bugs me how the crease on Bulma's(?) dress segues into the line on Goku's shirt.

Or is it a stray hair from Goten's head? I seriously can't tell!
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:25 am

Blade wrote:
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:The official Dragon Ball Super Twitter page just posted this. It's the last shot from the show's ending credits.

Nawww look at that smile. You can't get angry at a face like that.
It bugs me how the crease on Bulma's(?) dress segues into the line on Goku's shirt.

Or is it a stray hair from Goten's head? I seriously can't tell!
It's Goten's hair.

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Post by Tennessaiyan » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:28 am

Blade wrote:
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:The official Dragon Ball Super Twitter page just posted this. It's the last shot from the show's ending credits.
Nawww look at that smile. You can't get angry at a face like that.
It bugs me how the crease on Bulma's(?) dress segues into the line on Goku's shirt.

Or is it a stray hair from Goten's head? I seriously can't tell!
Looks like a stray hair to me. Also, Imma guess that's Vegeta's arm to the right of Goku, maybe? Arms crossed, as per usual! :D
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sanorin » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:38 am

Chuquita wrote:That bit with Trunks and Goten, does that say Gohan's getting married? If so do we get his and Videl's wedding after all?

Thought I saw 'kekkon', but not sure. 結婚。
I've attempted to translate the text in that page, and it seems to indicate that Gohan and Videl are already married, so apparently we won't see the wedding unless they show a flashback :(
Also it seems we finally have a time frame! :mrgreen:
In the peaceful Earth, Goku earns money!?

Half a year has passed since the battle with Majin Boo, the Earth is at peace. While working the farm by Chichi's orders, Goku takes every chance to train. Newly married Gohan and Videl are living peaceful days, but...!?

Goten and Trunks, what did they choose as a wedding present!?

Goten wants to give a wedding present to Gohan, and Trunks gives him advice! What item did those two choose!?

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