The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:42 pm

Bullza wrote:Perhaps Beerus would have been a better match for Omega Shenron instead then.
Personally, I'd say Beers is weaker than Super #17, so Syn/Omega stomps Beers, in my opinion.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by AvatarReiko » Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:29 am

Noah wrote:New battles:

- Gotenks (Base) x SSJ Goku (Boo Arc)

- Gotenks (Base) x SSJ Vegeta (Boo Arc)

- Gotenks (Base) x Perfect Cell
Cell, Vegeta and Goku get stomped horribly. Base Gotenks(Pre-ROSAT) is in the same realm as the super sayain 2s. Heck, the boys were closing the gap on Gohan prior to the tournament.
Noah wrote: - Hypothetical SSJ2 Gotenks x Fat Boo (before split)
SSJ2 Gotenks should stomp. SSJ was stated to be enough to beat Fat Buu.
Noah wrote: - Super Boo x Janemba
Super Buu stomps. Goku was able to inflict damage onto Super Jenemba with standard attacks and was able to hold his own somewhat. The tide of the fight only really turned when Jenemba got out his magic sword, which wouldn't really affect Buu anyway since he can regenerate. By contrast, Goku shyed away from fighting Super Buu and admitted that neither he nor Vegeta stood a chance win. I, personally, do not see Goku doing that well against Super Buu.

Either way, Jenemba is closer to SSJ3 Goku than he is to Super Buu. He loses.
Noah wrote: - SSJ Goku (Boo Arc) x Perfect Cell
Cell takes the majority but with a degree of difficulty. He'd probably have to use his full power to end it quickly though.
Noah wrote: - SSJ Vegeta (Boo Arc) x Super Perfect Cell
Vegeta gets stomped. Neither him or Goku increased their SSJ forms by that much(at least to the point where they would be rivalling SSJ2) in the seven year gap , albeit they should have surpassed Kid Gohan. But not by a significant margin. SSJ2 is required to defeat SPC or anyone in his realm of power.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:06 am

Bullza wrote:Golden Freeza vs Omega Shenron
Evil Shenron only has a chance if Freeza is worn out. On the contrary, Freeza has power that surpass that of the Saiyan Gods Goku and Vegeta, who are both stronger than Evil Shenron.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:15 am

pacz360 wrote:Let see how about these
Vegetto vs oceanus shenron
Paikuhan vs ssj2 gohan (enraged)
Anime yamcha vs suppressed perfect cell
-Vegetto should be at a realm of power that's considerably higher than the vast majority of the Shadow Dragons. The only ones I'd say he'd lose against are Nova Shenron, Ice Shenron, Syn Shenron, and Omega Shenron. His fight with Oceanus Shenron should be a mere warm up.

-Gohan teaches the overly confident fighter about the true meaning of facing off against a real tournament champion. On a serious note, Paikuhan may have a chance if he executes his Burning Shoot attack with precision. I mean, even with his weighted clothing on, he was able to take Cell down with the utmost ease. Regardless of if he caught the biological android off guard or not, the feat that the mysterious fighter displayed with his breathtaking attack was simply remarkable. Considering how the fight between weighted clothing Paikuhan and Base Goku went, I'd say we could deem the Burning Shoot attack as a major asset with an enormous degree of credibility.

-Much like the time he felt he could rival Vegeta's training in the gravity room, Yamcha feels he could do just as well as Paikuhan did against Cell based on how easily he was just able to trash a fighter who was almost on par with the former. With his boosted ego, and burning passion to redeem himself for all of his past failures, he charges towards Cell with everything he's got. Without even a hint of concern on his face, the biological android nonchalantly kicks the determined fighter, yet again crushing all of his dreams.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Krillin (23rd) vs. Goku (post Ultra Divine Water)
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Bullza wrote:Golden Freeza vs Omega Shenron
I'm inclined to believe that Omega Shenron would be able to put the golden tyrant in his place. While the gap in power may not be that substantial, the dragon has an overall better grasp of his power, and is ultimately not subject to the adverse effects of limited stamina.

New Battle:
Omega Shenron vs Kid Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:20 pm

supercat wrote:
New Battle:
Omega Shenron vs Kid Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Super Yi Xing Long would win. He has hax powers like able to freeze his opponents, can make his body super hot, can use possession on his opponents (as seen when he use his six corrupted Dragon Balls in Si Xing Long (Nova Shenron) ). Not to mention his regeneration is similar to Majin Buu where he was able to completely reform himself after being blown into dust from Goku's dragon fist attack. Kid Buu is strong, but Yi XIng Long is too broken for Kid Buu to handle.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:35 pm

Goku vs PowerPuff Girls
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:36 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Goku vs PowerPuff Girls
Mojo Jojo vs Pilfar
Who is Pilfar?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:42 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
supercat wrote:
New Battle:
Omega Shenron vs Kid Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Super Yi Xing Long would win. He has hax powers like able to freeze his opponents, can make his body super hot, can use possession on his opponents (as seen when he use his six corrupted Dragon Balls in Si Xing Long (Nova Shenron) ). Not to mention his regeneration is similar to Majin Buu where he was able to completely reform himself after being blown into dust from Goku's dragon fist attack. Kid Buu is strong, but Yi XIng Long is too broken for Kid Buu to handle.
I wonder if Kid Buu has the capability of learning some of the awesome abilities displayed by Omega Shenron just by watching them. I'm inclined to believe that the vast majority of those powers are exclusive to the dragons, but I also feel without knowing the extent of Buu's learning capabilities, we can't quite rule out the possibility of the vile menace mimicking these stunning attacks.

New Battle:
Paikuhan (no weighted clothing, no time limit or strain from Burning Shoot, and two direct hits with Thunder Flash) vs Evil Buu (against Majin Buu)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:45 pm

Buu can turn Omega into a cupcake. What's Omega going to do that can put down Buu at equal power?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:59 pm

supercat wrote:Omega Shenron vs Kid Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Kid Buu is more deranged so he will go for the kill more quickly than Omega Shenron would. So I'm backing Kid Buu.
supercat wrote:Paikuhan (no weighted clothing, no time limit or strain from Burning Shoot, and two direct hits with Thunder Flash) vs Evil Buu (against Majin Buu)
Evil Buu turns Pikkon into candy

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:07 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Let see how about these
Vegetto vs oceanus shenron
Paikuhan vs ssj2 gohan (enraged)
Anime yamcha vs suppressed perfect cell
-Oceanus
-Gohan
-Yamcha

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Krillin (23rd) vs. Goku (post Ultra Divine Water)
Goku is probably still stronger but I think Krillin knows how to use his powers better by this point so... 60-40 in Goku's favor.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:08 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
supercat wrote:Omega Shenron vs Kid Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Kid Buu is more deranged so he will go for the kill more quickly than Omega Shenron would. So I'm backing Kid Buu.
supercat wrote:Paikuhan (no weighted clothing, no time limit or strain from Burning Shoot, and two direct hits with Thunder Flash) vs Evil Buu (against Majin Buu)
Evil Buu turns Paikuhan into candy
No turning to candy.

Who wins now?

Super 17 vs Golden Frieza (no stamina issues for Frieza, Super 17 starts off with all of the energy he absorbed from SSJ4 Goku, and he gets to absorb one decent ki blast from Frieza)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:15 pm

Super #17 rips Freeza in half.

Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) vs. Young Piccolo Daimao
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:16 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Goku vs PowerPuff Girls
Mojo Jojo vs Pilfar
Who is Pilfar?
In English and probably Japanese too it's Pilaf. The guy with Shuu and Mai
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:22 pm

Then why not just say "Pilaf?"
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sora Saiyan » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:24 pm

supercat wrote: Super 17 vs Golden Freeza (no stamina issues for Freeza, Super 17 starts off with all of the energy he absorbed from SSJ4 Goku, and he gets to absorb one decent ki blast from Freeza)
I give this to Freeza. I just think there's to big of a gap between the two.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:27 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Then why not just say "Pilaf?"
Pilfar is what I grew up with and used to. So it's mostly out of habit. Same reason why I say Urio instead of Wheelo.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:53 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) vs. Young Piccolo Daimao
Manga has Tenshinhan at 250 at the Beginning of Z, so he should be weaker before that 5 year gap. Daimao was given a 260 in Daizenshuu 7 alongside Kid Goku, so he wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:05 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Super #17 rips Freeza in half.

Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) vs. Young Piccolo Daimao
Unless Tien's advantage in power is substantial or he has a major trump card up his sleeve, I could see him losing this battle.

Another battle:

Captain Ginyu vs Nappa (no body swapping, unlimited stamina, equal power, no Oozaru transformation for Nappa)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:24 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Super #17 rips Freeza in half.

Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) vs. Young Piccolo Daimao
I don't really see how Tenshinhan can be weaker here... It's pretty much stated that:

weighted 23rd Goku strength > post Sacred Water Goku strength, weighted 23rd Goku speed ~ post Sacred Water Goku speed

And Tenshinhan was beating that Goku around.. sooo yeah, Tenshinhan stomps.

Also agree Super #17 stomps Golden Freeza. I have him equal to Whiss.

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