The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:29 pm

Future Trunks (The History of Trunks, upon initially turning SSJ) vs Final Form Frieza 100%

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:37 pm

supercat wrote:Future Trunks (The History of Trunks, upon initially turning SSJ) vs Final Form Freeza 100%
Freeza. I don't think Future Trunks is that special here.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:38 pm

supercat wrote:Future Trunks (The History of Trunks, upon initially turning SSJ) vs Final Form Freeza 100%
Freeza, Trunks appears to be quite weak and a SSJ transformation is not enough to reach so big heights.

How about:
Kibito vs Android #19

Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

General Blue vs Namu

Jackie Chun (22nd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Android #8

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:56 pm

LightBing wrote:
supercat wrote:Future Trunks (The History of Trunks, upon initially turning SSJ) vs Final Form Freeza 100%
Freeza, Trunks appears to be quite weak and a SSJ transformation is not enough to reach so big heights.

How about:
Kibito vs Android #19

Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

General Blue vs Namu

Jackie Chun (22nd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Android #8
19 wins pre and post.
SPC unless Kibitoshin uses magic.
Blue.
Chun with ease.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:59 pm

LightBing wrote:
supercat wrote:Future Trunks (The History of Trunks, upon initially turning SSJ) vs Final Form Freeza 100%
Freeza, Trunks appears to be quite weak and a SSJ transformation is not enough to reach so big heights.

How about:
Kibito vs Android #19

Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

General Blue vs Namu

Jackie Chun (22nd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Android #8
-Despite Android 19 being worlds below Dabura in power, the outcome wouldn't be much different for Kibito. If he doesn't get one-shotted by the evil Android, he would receive a relentless beating before finally meeting his end.

-Even though Kibito was a complete weakling fodder, between the boost gained from the Potara earrings, and Kaioshin's decent power, I'd say Kibitoshin isn't half bad in terms of power. I have him in the low SSJ2 tier, so securing a victory against Super Perfect Cell seems quite plausible.

-General Blue

-I'd say the end result would end rather favorably for the old master. Android 8 may have raw power and durability at his disposal, but he won't be able to withstand Roshi's Kamehameha at full force. Couple that with Jackie Chun's superior speed and battle sense, and poor Android 8 would likely end up as a broken pile of nuts and bolts.

Another battle:
Final Form Frieza 100% vs Android 16 (after being blasted by Semi-perfect Cell)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:17 pm

supercat wrote:Final Form Freeza 100% vs Android 16 (after being blasted by Semi-perfect Cell)
#16 still decimates Freeza

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:30 pm

South Kaioshin vs Ledgic
Caterpy vs Nappa

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:05 pm

supercat wrote:South Kaioshin vs Ledgic
Caterpy vs Nappa
- Ledgic wipes the floor with Kaioshin
- Nappa squashes the caterpillar.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:09 pm

Maraikoh vs Yakon
Maraikoh vs Final Form Frieza 25%

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:15 pm

LightBing wrote:
supercat wrote:Future Trunks (The History of Trunks, upon initially turning SSJ) vs Final Form Freeza 100%
Freeza, Trunks appears to be quite weak and a SSJ transformation is not enough to reach so big heights.

How about:
Kibito vs Android #19

Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

General Blue vs Namu

Jackie Chun (22nd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Android #8
-#19 punches Kibito's head off
-SPC oblitirates Kibitoshin
-Blue
-Jackie Chun stomps
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LightBing » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:16 pm

supercat wrote:Maraikoh vs Yakon
Maraikoh vs Final Form Freeza 25%
I put most Other World fighters in the 100.000 range , Maraikoh is one of those so he gets squashed in both fights.

A pair of battles before I forget them.
Buu (Beerus absorved) vs Whis

Buu (God Goku absorved) vs Beerus

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:33 pm

LightBing wrote:Kibito vs Android #19

Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell

General Blue vs Namu

Jackie Chun (22nd Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Android #8
- I don't think Kibito is stronger than Freeza since I hate him, so #19 pre one-shots him.

- Kibitoshin wins in a Monster Zarbon vs. Vegeta style beatdown.

- Blue wins. Namu would not have as easy a time with Krillin.

- Chun wins. I don't think he's too far off from Goku and Ten's full power.
supercat wrote:South Kaioshin vs Ledgic
Ledgic punches the Kaioshin's head off.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:40 pm

LightBing wrote:
supercat wrote:Maraikoh vs Yakon
Maraikoh vs Final Form Freeza 25%
I put most Other World fighters in the 100.000 range , Maraikoh is one of those so he gets squashed in both fights.

A pair of battles before I forget them.
Buu (Beerus absorved) vs Whis

Buu (God Goku absorved) vs Beerus
Maraikoh was able to land a hit on post Cell Games Goku. Regardless, all of that was filler so it's pretty hard to determine how powerful any of those fighters are.

-Whis one-shots. From my understanding Buu's absorption technique doesn't come with any multipliers, so simply adding Beerus' power on top of his own won't save him from the stunning power of Whis. The fight basically wouldn't be much different from Beerus vs Whis in terms of actual power. The only perk this Beerus-Buu would have is regeneration, which would serve no purpose against an opponent like Whis.

-Beerus takes with relative ease. Buu's power is worlds below both SSG Goku and Beerus, and while the gap between SSG Goku and Beerus isn't ginormous, Buu's minuscule power won't be able to bridge the gap.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:00 pm

Super Buu (SSGSS Goku + SSGSS Vegeta absorbed) vs. Whiss

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:07 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Buu (SSGSS Goku + SSGSS Vegeta absorbed) vs. Whiss
We don't know anything about Whis' true strength to determine this. However, this being would certainly annihilate Beerus though.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:09 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Buu (SSGSS Goku + SSGSS Vegeta absorbed) vs. Whiss
We don't know anything about Whis' true strength to determine this. However, this being would certainly annihilate Beerus though.
He's only 1.5x Beers. Since Goku and Vegeta can fight Beers evenly together, that could easily make them a 7.5 to Beers' 10.

7.5 + 7.5 = 15 = Whiss.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:17 pm

LightBing wrote:
supercat wrote:Maraikoh vs Yakon
Maraikoh vs Final Form Freeza 25%
I put most Other World fighters in the 100.000 range , Maraikoh is one of those so he gets squashed in both fights.

A pair of battles before I forget them.
Buu (Beerus absorved) vs Whis

Buu (God Goku absorved) vs Beerus
I assume you meant Super Buu right?

If so then he loses both matches.

I have Super Buu at 1% of Beerus's full power, the absorptions do nothing.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Buu (SSGSS Goku + SSGSS Vegeta absorbed) vs. Whiss
Now this is a much better fight. Buu ends up at 15.1 vs Whis's 15.

I still give it to Whis though because he is the better fighter.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:20 pm

Maybe a SSJGSSJ Gogeta would be enough to defeat Whis
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:22 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Buu (SSGSS Goku + SSGSS Vegeta absorbed) vs. Whiss
Could be close. Adding SSGSS Goku's power on top of SSGSS Vegeta's power may just be enough to create a fighter who is more or less Whis tier. However, the mysterious master seems like he would still hold the edge in battle technique, strategy, and overall prowess. With a superior arsenal of such assets at his disposal, I could certainly see him retaining his status of being unrivaled even after a fight like this.

Super Buu's trivial power is garbage at this point, so whether or not he gets factored into the equation would hardly even make a difference. His regeneration may prove to be bit of a nuisance, but I honestly would not be surprised if Whis somehow manages to overcome it.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:29 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Super Buu (SSGSS Goku + SSGSS Vegeta absorbed) vs. Whiss
We don't know anything about Whis' true strength to determine this. However, this being would certainly annihilate Beerus though.
He's only 1.5x Beers. Since Goku and Vegeta can fight Beers evenly together, that could easily make them a 7.5 to Beers' 10.

7.5 + 7.5 = 15 = Whiss.
I wouldn't take those numbers at face value. Toriyama very likely just made that up on the spur of the moment for an interview. I doubt he has an exact measure of how strong he wants Whis to actually be.
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