"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by LightBing » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:20 am

soulnova wrote:As I see it, we can have the following ways to solve the Saiyan God transformation:

-Tarble
-Future Trunks
-The Ritual is different
-A new Saiyan shows up
-They retcon Pan/Bra's birthdays


I still want Tarble to come by.
Since this is 6 months after Buu, doesn't this mean the special is being ignored, making Tarble non-existent.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:22 am

LightBing wrote:
soulnova wrote:As I see it, we can have the following ways to solve the Saiyan God transformation:

-Tarble
-Future Trunks
-The Ritual is different
-A new Saiyan shows up
-They retcon Pan/Bra's birthdays


I still want Tarble to come by.
Since this is 6 months after Buu, doesn't this mean the special is being ignored, making Tarble non-existent.
Bingo. The 2008 special and BoG just can't work with chapter 1 of DBS.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:22 am

NeoKING wrote:Not understanding why they couldn't just have Super fully take place in Universe 6.
This might be why :
AjayLikesGaming wrote: I think expanding (and possibly retelling) the story arcs presented in the previous films is important, however. I've mentioned it before, but if you want a TV series to work as one long running entity, you can't force viewers to dip into multiple films, especially when the previous films had zero bearing on the continuity. That makes your series very inaccessible and confusing to newcomers, not to mention the TV-only audience. This move allows the much needed freedom to a tell a story fit for television, and one that can be easily expanded.
Universe 6 seems like it's going to be either one big arc or multiple small ones but hopefully it isn't the only universe we see.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:23 am

Pan's birthday can't be retconned because she's still 4 at the end of Z. They'll most likely either bring in Tarble to do the ritual or change the method of achieving SSG entirely, I hope they opt for the latter.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:24 am

Or just create a plot hole involving Pan's age, and not care.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by NeoKING » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:24 am

Makes sense.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by GokuRules987 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:24 am

Doctor. wrote:
GokuRules987 wrote:have no character development.
Oh, so you've seen the series?
Well I seen the movies. I didn't like how Beerus was introduced, If hes a god why would he care about fighting if there is no reason too. Ohh i had a dream of fighting a Super Saiyan god, so now i am going to try to find that Goku fella and fight against if he turns out to be a god. That's poor writing. I mean even future trunks had a way better character development, it wasn't just some ass pull of him showing up randomly to kill Frieza. He actually knew about this from the future.

You know what would be even cooler? If Goku was the one who actually came to Beerus place and not the other way around cause i think it would make much more sense.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:27 am

GokuRules987 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
GokuRules987 wrote:have no character development.
Oh, so you've seen the series?
Well I seen the movies. I didn't like how Beerus was introduced, If hes a god why would he care about fighting if there is no reason too. Ohh i had a dream of fighting a Super Saiyan god, so now i am going to try to find that Goku fella and fight against if he turns out to be a god. That's poor writing. I mean even future trunks had a way better character development, it wasn't just some ass pull of him showing up randomly to kill Freeza. He actually knew about this from the future.
Beerus is almost like an exact mirror of Goku except with a different sense of morality. You're a fan of Goku and yet you condemn Beerus for wanting to fight?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by BeholdeR » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:28 am

I'd like to see Videl vs Chi chi :p

Very happy about the news of them going to universe 6!!


I hope there is none of this Princess vegeta tho!
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:29 am

GokuRules987 wrote:
I didn't like how Beerus was introduced, If hes a god why would he care about fighting if there is no reason too. Ohh i had a dream of fighting a Super Saiyan god, so now i am going to try to find that Goku fella and fight against if he turns out to be a god. That's poor writing. I mean even future trunks had a way better character development, it wasn't just some ass pull of him showing up randomly to kill Freeza. He actually knew about this from the future.

You know what would be even cooler? If Goku was the one who actually to Beerus place and not the other way around cause i think it would make much more sense.
Why does him being a god mean he shouldn't care about fighting...?

Liking to fight is...his character.

Being a "god" just means he's super-powerful and has an important position in the universal order.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by valfranx » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:33 am

I have a new theory, I think the anime we have a division of moments where we will have scenes happening in the universe 7 and other happening in the universe 6, ever thought about the possibility of beerus're visiting the universe 6 to know chanpa.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by soulnova » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:33 am

They can include the 2008 special into the plot quite easily... hell, Goku and Goten have been shown with their jsat outfits already, which is a throwback to Tarble.
Check out Journey's End, a short story of Goku and Vegeta's final days. "Time is running out for the last two Saiyans"

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fexus » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:34 am

What's with the they need a new way to achieve SSG? Why do they need a new way when the old way would still work fine?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:35 am

Doctor. wrote:Pan's birthday can't be retconned because she's still 4 at the end of Z.
EOZ could end up being rewritten like the movies.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:36 am

fexus wrote:What's with the they need a new way to achieve SSG? Why do they need a new way when the old way would still work fine?
Given what we've seen, it's a possibility that the first meeting with Beerus will happen earlier than in canon; hence, using Pan as the last saiyan for the ritual may not be possible, since she wouldn't exist yet.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fexus » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:37 am

Captain Space wrote:
fexus wrote:What's with the they need a new way to achieve SSG? Why do they need a new way when the old way would still work fine?
Given what we've seen, it's a possibility that the first meeting with Beerus will happen earlier than in canon; hence, using Pan as the last saiyan for the ritual may not be possible, since she wouldn't exist yet.
We don't even know that yet. This is really confusing. Do you guys like to jump to your own conclusions?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:39 am

fexus wrote:
Captain Space wrote:
fexus wrote:What's with the they need a new way to achieve SSG? Why do they need a new way when the old way would still work fine?
Given what we've seen, it's a possibility that the first meeting with Beerus will happen earlier than in canon; hence, using Pan as the last saiyan for the ritual may not be possible, since she wouldn't exist yet.
We don't even know that yet. This is really confusing. Do you guys like to jump to your own conclusions?
You've been here for over 3 months and it's first now you think of that possibility :P

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:40 am

fexus wrote: We don't even know that yet. This is really confusing. Do you guys like to jump to your own conclusions?
Chill out, it's just guesswork/speculation.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:40 am

fexus wrote:
Captain Space wrote:
fexus wrote:What's with the they need a new way to achieve SSG? Why do they need a new way when the old way would still work fine?
Given what we've seen, it's a possibility that the first meeting with Beerus will happen earlier than in canon; hence, using Pan as the last saiyan for the ritual may not be possible, since she wouldn't exist yet.
We don't even know that yet. This is really confusing. Do you guys like to jump to your own conclusions?
It was announced that it takes place 6 months after Buu's defeat.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:41 am

Man, they created a real mess with all this retconning stuff...
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