Since this is 6 months after Buu, doesn't this mean the special is being ignored, making Tarble non-existent.soulnova wrote:As I see it, we can have the following ways to solve the Saiyan God transformation:
-Tarble
-Future Trunks
-The Ritual is different
-A new Saiyan shows up
-They retcon Pan/Bra's birthdays
I still want Tarble to come by.
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Bingo. The 2008 special and BoG just can't work with chapter 1 of DBS.LightBing wrote:Since this is 6 months after Buu, doesn't this mean the special is being ignored, making Tarble non-existent.soulnova wrote:As I see it, we can have the following ways to solve the Saiyan God transformation:
-Tarble
-Future Trunks
-The Ritual is different
-A new Saiyan shows up
-They retcon Pan/Bra's birthdays
I still want Tarble to come by.
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This might be why :NeoKING wrote:Not understanding why they couldn't just have Super fully take place in Universe 6.
Universe 6 seems like it's going to be either one big arc or multiple small ones but hopefully it isn't the only universe we see.AjayLikesGaming wrote: I think expanding (and possibly retelling) the story arcs presented in the previous films is important, however. I've mentioned it before, but if you want a TV series to work as one long running entity, you can't force viewers to dip into multiple films, especially when the previous films had zero bearing on the continuity. That makes your series very inaccessible and confusing to newcomers, not to mention the TV-only audience. This move allows the much needed freedom to a tell a story fit for television, and one that can be easily expanded.
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Pan's birthday can't be retconned because she's still 4 at the end of Z. They'll most likely either bring in Tarble to do the ritual or change the method of achieving SSG entirely, I hope they opt for the latter.
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Or just create a plot hole involving Pan's age, and not care.
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Makes sense.
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Well I seen the movies. I didn't like how Beerus was introduced, If hes a god why would he care about fighting if there is no reason too. Ohh i had a dream of fighting a Super Saiyan god, so now i am going to try to find that Goku fella and fight against if he turns out to be a god. That's poor writing. I mean even future trunks had a way better character development, it wasn't just some ass pull of him showing up randomly to kill Frieza. He actually knew about this from the future.Doctor. wrote:Oh, so you've seen the series?GokuRules987 wrote:have no character development.
You know what would be even cooler? If Goku was the one who actually came to Beerus place and not the other way around cause i think it would make much more sense.
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Beerus is almost like an exact mirror of Goku except with a different sense of morality. You're a fan of Goku and yet you condemn Beerus for wanting to fight?GokuRules987 wrote:Well I seen the movies. I didn't like how Beerus was introduced, If hes a god why would he care about fighting if there is no reason too. Ohh i had a dream of fighting a Super Saiyan god, so now i am going to try to find that Goku fella and fight against if he turns out to be a god. That's poor writing. I mean even future trunks had a way better character development, it wasn't just some ass pull of him showing up randomly to kill Freeza. He actually knew about this from the future.Doctor. wrote:Oh, so you've seen the series?GokuRules987 wrote:have no character development.
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I'd like to see Videl vs Chi chi :p
Very happy about the news of them going to universe 6!!
I hope there is none of this Princess vegeta tho!
Very happy about the news of them going to universe 6!!
I hope there is none of this Princess vegeta tho!
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Why does him being a god mean he shouldn't care about fighting...?GokuRules987 wrote:
I didn't like how Beerus was introduced, If hes a god why would he care about fighting if there is no reason too. Ohh i had a dream of fighting a Super Saiyan god, so now i am going to try to find that Goku fella and fight against if he turns out to be a god. That's poor writing. I mean even future trunks had a way better character development, it wasn't just some ass pull of him showing up randomly to kill Freeza. He actually knew about this from the future.
You know what would be even cooler? If Goku was the one who actually to Beerus place and not the other way around cause i think it would make much more sense.
Liking to fight is...his character.
Being a "god" just means he's super-powerful and has an important position in the universal order.
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I have a new theory, I think the anime we have a division of moments where we will have scenes happening in the universe 7 and other happening in the universe 6, ever thought about the possibility of beerus're visiting the universe 6 to know chanpa.
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They can include the 2008 special into the plot quite easily... hell, Goku and Goten have been shown with their jsat outfits already, which is a throwback to Tarble.
Check out Journey's End, a short story of Goku and Vegeta's final days. "Time is running out for the last two Saiyans"
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What's with the they need a new way to achieve SSG? Why do they need a new way when the old way would still work fine?
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EOZ could end up being rewritten like the movies.Doctor. wrote:Pan's birthday can't be retconned because she's still 4 at the end of Z.
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Given what we've seen, it's a possibility that the first meeting with Beerus will happen earlier than in canon; hence, using Pan as the last saiyan for the ritual may not be possible, since she wouldn't exist yet.fexus wrote:What's with the they need a new way to achieve SSG? Why do they need a new way when the old way would still work fine?
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We don't even know that yet. This is really confusing. Do you guys like to jump to your own conclusions?Captain Space wrote:Given what we've seen, it's a possibility that the first meeting with Beerus will happen earlier than in canon; hence, using Pan as the last saiyan for the ritual may not be possible, since she wouldn't exist yet.fexus wrote:What's with the they need a new way to achieve SSG? Why do they need a new way when the old way would still work fine?
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You've been here for over 3 months and it's first now you think of that possibilityfexus wrote:We don't even know that yet. This is really confusing. Do you guys like to jump to your own conclusions?Captain Space wrote:Given what we've seen, it's a possibility that the first meeting with Beerus will happen earlier than in canon; hence, using Pan as the last saiyan for the ritual may not be possible, since she wouldn't exist yet.fexus wrote:What's with the they need a new way to achieve SSG? Why do they need a new way when the old way would still work fine?

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Chill out, it's just guesswork/speculation.fexus wrote: We don't even know that yet. This is really confusing. Do you guys like to jump to your own conclusions?
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It was announced that it takes place 6 months after Buu's defeat.fexus wrote:We don't even know that yet. This is really confusing. Do you guys like to jump to your own conclusions?Captain Space wrote:Given what we've seen, it's a possibility that the first meeting with Beerus will happen earlier than in canon; hence, using Pan as the last saiyan for the ritual may not be possible, since she wouldn't exist yet.fexus wrote:What's with the they need a new way to achieve SSG? Why do they need a new way when the old way would still work fine?
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Man, they created a real mess with all this retconning stuff...
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