"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:12 am

Yes...on the 21st (in V-Jump, like always). This has been known since it was announced to be a continuing series.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Cadellin » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:49 am

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LuckyCat wrote:I don't blame the JSAT special writers for being confused, honestly. :mrgreen: Still that alone gives no basis for when money will come to Mr. Satan. It's not like a Tenkaichi Budoukai where there's prize money waiting around to be handed out.
More than anything, it sounds like Satan's won some sort of DB equivalent of the Noble Peace Prize. Although God knows what category that would fall under. A Noble Prize for martial arts?

Also, it's got to be said, 100 million isn't that much. Toriyama's stated a few times that zenny are roughly equivalent in value to Japanese yen, which would make one about on par with a US penny (conveniently enough). So 100 million zenny should be about 1 million USD. Hardly seems worth it, especially for someone who's already loaded. Heck, even 100 million USD isn't exactly wealth beyond the dreams of avarice, at least not anymore. "Wow, every single person in the entire world would be dead if it weren't for you! Here, have 7% of the net gross from Age of Ultron! Keep up the good work!"
If you are going to compare it in value to the Japanese yen, its worth remembering that the yen was worth considerably more in the 1980s, when I presume he made statements like that. nowhere near the value change of the dollar say, but 100 million zenny (assuming one Zenny is 1 yen in 1984) is more like 1.17 million dollars in today's money.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Herms » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:47 pm

If you are going to compare it in value to the Japanese yen, its worth remembering that the yen was worth considerably more in the 1980s, when I presume he made statements like that.
He made the zenny/yen comparison in the Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume released in 2009. Anyway, rather than any specific exchange rate from any specific year, the big takeaway is probably that a zenny can be thought of as closer in value to a US penny than a US dollar.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:02 pm

Herms wrote:
If you are going to compare it in value to the Japanese yen, its worth remembering that the yen was worth considerably more in the 1980s, when I presume he made statements like that.
He made the zenny/yen comparison in the Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume released in 2009. Anyway, rather than any specific exchange rate from any specific year, the big takeaway is probably that a zenny can be thought of as closer in value to a US penny than a US dollar.
Just noting that as per Jaco, zeni and yen both exist in the Dragon World. 1 zeni is worth 1.5 yen, as Capsule Corp sends Omori 100 billion zeni and he notes that's 150 billion yen (part of which he uses to officially buy his island)
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Cadellin » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:58 am

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Herms wrote:
If you are going to compare it in value to the Japanese yen, its worth remembering that the yen was worth considerably more in the 1980s, when I presume he made statements like that.
He made the zenny/yen comparison in the Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume released in 2009. Anyway, rather than any specific exchange rate from any specific year, the big takeaway is probably that a zenny can be thought of as closer in value to a US penny than a US dollar.
Just noting that as per Jaco, zeni and yen both exist in the Dragon World. 1 zeni is worth 1.5 yen, as Capsule Corp sends Omori 100 billion zeni and he notes that's 150 billion yen (part of which he uses to officially buy his island)
Ah yes, I forgot about the use of Yen in Jaco. At today's exchange rates, that means the 100m Zenni prize money is worth USD $1,234,635. It does work on the assumption that Dragonball Yen and real world Yen have equivalent values, but hey.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Dbzejo » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:52 pm

This manga feels so pointless. Its just a promotional thing and nothing else ...

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by JulieYBM » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:54 pm

Dbzejo wrote:This manga feels so pointless. Its just a promotional thing and nothing else ...
That describes the entirety of the franchise.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:55 pm

Dbzejo wrote:This manga feels so pointless. Its just a promotional thing and nothing else ...
That's pretty much the intended purpose of the manga. To promote the anime.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Dbzejo » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:17 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Dbzejo wrote:This manga feels so pointless. Its just a promotional thing and nothing else ...
That's pretty much the intended purpose of the manga. To promote the anime.
You mean the purpose of THIS manga. Because we know that the original manga was another story.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:20 pm

Dbzejo wrote:
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Dbzejo wrote:This manga feels so pointless. Its just a promotional thing and nothing else ...
That's pretty much the intended purpose of the manga. To promote the anime.
You mean the purpose of THIS manga. Because we know that the original manga was another story.
Yes, I mean the Dragon Ball Super manga.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:18 pm

You guys should give the manga a chance, we've only seen one chapter, we don't know what they'll end up doing with it later on. I'm hoping they'll use it to show what characters are doing when the anime isn't focused on them.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Araki » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:09 am

Dbzejo wrote:You mean the purpose of THIS manga. Because we know that the original manga was another story.
Of course, the original work was the manga. For Super it's not, it's the anime.
It's not even made by Toriyama, naturally it would serve the same purpose the RoF manga had. The V-Jump itself isn't even a manga magazine.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:15 am

Dbzejo wrote:This manga feels so pointless. Its just a promotional thing and nothing else ...
It might be pointless, but I like the fact that it's actually straying away from the anime. It doesn't feel copy-and-pasted.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by eledoremassis02 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:44 am

I was amazed they cut so much out, added a little and managed to do a whole epiosde! I'm interested in where it's going.

Also Toyotaro wasnt the original choice? I just found this article:
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/05/13/n ... u-katsura/
“Actually…he’s working on an original story right now.”

Some will no doubt be disappointed to hear that while Toriyama is writing the plot, he won’t be drawing the artwork. On the bright side, the visuals are being handled by Masakazu Katsura, a talented and extremely appropriate pick for the job.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by VegettoEX » Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:04 am

That's not in reference to the Dragon Ball Super manga. Toriyama and Katsura team-up for their own, individual, separate-from-DBZ one-shot stories (like Jiya, for example).
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:52 pm

VegettoEX wrote:That's not in reference to the Dragon Ball Super manga. Toriyama and Katsura team-up for their own, individual, separate-from-DBZ one-shot stories (like Jiya, for example).
Though, it is at least somewhat semi-plausible that both Jiya and Sachie-chan are both connected/"canon"/whatever to Jaco, and therefore, to Dragon Ball...if you want them to be...kinda...sorta...potentially...maybe?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheGameTagerZ » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:36 am

Latest Manga chapter Summary, mostly Battle of Gods recap with bits of Champa

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/07/14/d ... 2-summary/

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:49 am

TheGameTagerZ wrote:Latest Manga chapter Summary, mostly Battle of Gods recap with bits of Champa

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/07/14/d ... 2-summary/
Interesting. I wonder what part Champa will have in the reBOG arc outside of this foreshadowing. And we still don't know Ms. Whis' name?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheGameTagerZ » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:57 am

Chuquita wrote:
TheGameTagerZ wrote:Latest Manga chapter Summary, mostly Battle of Gods recap with bits of Champa

http://www.shonengamez.com/2015/07/14/d ... 2-summary/
Interesting. I wonder what part Champa will have in the reBOG arc outside of this foreshadowing. And we still don't know Ms. Whis' name?
No introduction, not even the name Champa is mentioned in here.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:06 am

So we're apparently just getting teaser chapters that cover content set to air shortly after the magazine releases. It was kinda fun having a manga with slight differences from the anime for chapter one, but if it's always only going to cover a fraction of the plot, I honestly would have rather he stuck to drawing Victory Mission.
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