Unpopular DB opinions

[DBZMerciter2005]

Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is a dumb name for an alright looking transformation.

I like Super Saiyan 4, might even go as far as to call it my favorite form. It just looks so original and contrasting from the others.

Dragon Ball Super shouldn't be retelling the movies since they aren't old and people can just buy the DVDs, not to mention that I can't help but feel they were shoehorned in there.

I agree. In fact I think that the blue hair of SSGSS should have been the original SSJ color. It would have emphasized the "alien" bit and it would have fulfilled the reason why Toriyama made SSJ light haired in the first place (so his assistant wouldn't have to color in Goku's hair all the time). I do wish that their eyes were still green when they made SSGSS but beggars can't be choosers.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan is a dumb name for an alright looking transformation.

I like Super Saiyan 4, might even go as far as to call it my favorite form. It just looks so original and contrasting from the others.

Dragon Ball Super shouldn't be retelling the movies since they aren't old and people can just buy the DVDs, not to mention that I can't help but feel they were shoehorned in there.

I thought the same thing intialy but it actually makes sense they had to do it. Film and TV are two different mediums you cannot make a sequel to DBZ(Kai) and then expect people to watch two films to then watch the new series. It's like after the orginal Dragonball ended and TOEI start Z off with the Cell arc and expect people to read the Manga to catch up.

[rereboy]

Rereboy, Roshi has seen Goku eat.

I guess his surprise/shock/reaction to him eating and later to the bill was just for show, then, if it's really that obvious that he would have predicted it and, indeed, predicted it.

[ABED]

It was for comedic effect.

[funrush]

I hate that the heroes don't change or develop like the "anti-heroes" do. (Piccolo, Vegeta, and Tenshinhan)

B-But Goku and Gohan have developed...

How, other than getting older? Like how have events shaped them as characters?

[ABED]

Gohan did develop in the Saiyan arc from a crybaby that needed his hand held to the kid who went of his own accord to search for the DB's on Namek.

[Doctor.]

And Goku went from someone who murdered every enemy to someone who didn't and then did again.

[ABED]

And Goku went from someone who murdered every enemy to someone who didn't and then did again.

There's a big difference between murder and justifiable homicide.

[Doctor.]

justifiable homicide.

No such thing as that, but I won't go any further since I know this is going to evolve into some big off-topic discussion about morality.

Either way, what "murder" means wasn't really the point of my post, now was it?

[TheGmGoken]

Ssj3 was a waste of time. Besides the cool design. Ssj3 is just USSJ with a new weakness

[ABED]

justifiable homicide.

No such thing as that, but I won't go any further since I know this is going to evolve into some big off-topic discussion about morality.

Either way, what "murder" means wasn't really the point of my post, now was it?

If someone is trying to kill you, you have the right to kill them to protect yourself. This isn't controversial. And the definition of murder is very relevant to your point if one assumes you take it as a negative.

[MarCas92]

Soulija Boy looks like Goku, Gohan and Vegeta.

[TheGmGoken]

Soulija Boy looks like Goku, Gohan and Vegeta.

Explain please. Very curious.

[MarCas92]

Soulija Boy looks like Goku, Gohan and Vegeta.

Explain please. Very curious.

Here's his song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kgpbHdbZA0

Here's a hilarious mash up of that song with We Gotta Power!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b0oQkjup4Q

[rereboy]

It was for comedic effect.

So? Every comedic thing that happens doesn't really happen in-universe? Roshi doesn't really hit on women in-universe because that's for comedic effect? Roshi was obviously quite surprised/shocked at just how much Goku ate, as well as all the others, and he was also clearly surprised at the bill, therefore, he wasn't counting on spending all the money on dinner, which he had offered as a prize for his students' efforts. Being comedic doesn't invalidate that.

[ABED]

It was for comedic effect.

So? Every comedic thing that happens doesn't really happen in-universe? Roshi doesn't really hit on women in-universe because that's for comedic effect? Roshi was obviously quite surprised/shocked at just how much Goku ate, as well as all the others, and he was also clearly surprised at the bill, therefore, he wasn't counting on spending all the money on dinner, which he had offered as a prize for his students' efforts. Being comedic doesn't invalidate that.

But it does undercut is being a big deal. Yes those things happened, but his pervy nature isn't being played for what it would be in real life. I think you're making more out of it than should be made within the context of the show. And once again, he's seen Goku eat, the moment is simply played for comedy, not logical consistency.

[rereboy]

What I'm saying is that Roshi's action in Super is simply in line with is perv moments, that his action in Super doesn't singlehandedly mean that he wouldn't offer a dinner to his students to reward his efforts because, despite having many perv moments, he's not only capable of perv moments, and that him seeming surprised meant that he was surprised. Imo, that's not making it to be more than it is.

[DBZAOTA482]

As I noted before, Roshi used the prize money from the
21st Budokai to treat Goku and others to a buffet. Roshi's perverted but he's also very wise and does nothing worse with his antics than existing. That scene in Super is annoying cuz it's obviously just there for the nostalgia angle.

Roshi never expected that the dinner would cost him all of the prize money, and Roshi offered to buy them dinner because he was the one who secretly defeated them and stopped them from becoming champions, so he wanted to do something nice for them. Just because Roshi rarely misses a chance to be a pervert, doesn't mean that he is a jerk that won't offer dinner to his friends/disciples in those circumstances, especially if he doesn't expect to spend all his money in the dinner. Obviously, Roshi's moment in Super was for the humor angle and it was perfectly in line with his humorous moments in the previous series.

Same thing with Chi-Chi. It'd be fine if she wanted Goten to have a decent education so he doesn't turn a fool but really... the best schools with the best teachers... did she even want that with Gohan (all we know is she put heavy priority in his education)? It just does not need to happen (especially with how she was like to Goten in the Boo Saga). Also what about the mortgage on the house, the groceries, the whatever bills, etc. ?

They just got a incredible amount of money. According to Jaco, 1 Zeni is about 1.5 Yen, so 100.000.000 Zeni would be 150.000.000 Yen, which is about 1.210.000 american dollars. They are basically millionaires now, they could have all that and more, so why wouldn't she want the best for Goten and why do you assume she wouldn't want the best for Gohan if she could afford it with no problems?

1. Sorry the moment was way too forced for me to believe Roshi would believably act like that.

2. She was presented with an even greater sum of money in the Great Saiyaman Saga and never expressed desire to put Gohan or Goten to go to "The best school with the best teachers" even though she was confident Goku and Gohan would win back money (note: her attitude towards Gohan's education didn't change that much in the Boo Saga from how it previously was). She was just about how the money father left them was near gone and didn't know they was gonna do.


My point is... they need to do away with making Chi-Chi look like a harpy. This is the 21st century. I mean, goddamn all she seems to do in Super is yell.... just stop it, TOEI!! Don't appease those people!

[gohann]

Cell is not that great of a villain.

[Attitudefan]

Cell is not that great of a villain.

Agreed. I am not a fan of Cell, especially that he succeeds Freeza (one of the best villains in animation). It's a tough act to follow and Cell fails to really live up to it. I personally feel Buu is just another Cell/Freeza rehash, just like Cell was a rehash of Freeza and his tropes. However, Buu, I think, did a better job at being the "end all" villain than Cell. Buu's regenerative abilities and transformations are far more terrifying than Cell's (despite that they are practically identical. You need to destroy all his cell's to defeat him idea are both attributed to both villains, yet Buu does it better).