The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Captain Space]

Or Gotenks /w Fan Speculation vs Deathbattle Superman vs Vineforce Flash

Superman is stupidity incarnated. He says one word and Gotenks and Flash disintegrates.

It kind of annoys me as a fan of the character that stuff like Death Battle makes Superman seem so broken. There are plenty of beings in the DCU alone vastly more powerful than him, not to mention from some other franchises nobody's gonna argue about. And now we have vast droves of people thinking his strength is literally infinite or whatever.

[singsing]

Or Gotenks /w Fan Speculation vs Deathbattle Superman vs Vineforce Flash

Superman is stupidity incarnated. He says one word and Gotenks and Flash disintegrates.

It kind of annoys me as a fan of the character that stuff like Death Battle makes Superman seem so broken. There are plenty of beings in the DCU alone vastly more powerful than him, not to mention from some other franchises nobody's gonna argue about. And now we have vast droves of people thinking his strength is literally infinite or whatever.

Not really, it's just people meme'ing, especially since they literally point out "Death Battle" Superman, not regular Nu52 Superman.

[Captain Space]

It was kinda hard to tell since that person just said "Superman". And some people do think that about regular/actual Supes.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

M10 SS Broly vs. SS2 Teen Gohan

[Captain Space]

M10 SS Broly vs. SS2 Teen Gohan

Gohan. All SSJ1 Broly did in movie 10 was beat up Videl, the kids and base Gohan IIRC.

[Lord Beerus]

M10 SS Broly vs. SS2 Teen Gohan

Broly still loses but goes down fighting. I'd imagine the zenkai(?) he got after his first near death experience would have elevated his regular SSJ strength to something bordering that of the power that Super Perfect Cell had, given that he no sold attacks from Goten and Trunks and kicked their assess pretty easily.

[RandomGuy96]

Superman's strength is INFINITY so he wins fuck you shut up.

[White Oni]

This Broly vs superman.

Iono man, it's close but personally, I gotta go with broly on this one, I mean, just by way of character concept.

[Alex9196]

M10 SS Broly vs. SS2 Teen Gohan

Broly, he took on SSJ2 Gohan and Gohan needed the help of Goten and maybe his father? If Goku really was there or not really matters but even if he wasn't I would say Broly.

[Captain Space]

M10 SS Broly vs. SS2 Teen Gohan

Broly, he took on SSJ2 Gohan and Gohan needed the help of Goten and maybe his father? If Goku really was there or not really matters but even if he wasn't I would say Broly.

Even leaving aside the debate of whether Gohan was SSJ1 or 2 in that movie, this is SSJ1 Broly in this match-up, not LSSJ Broly. It certainly didn't take the whole family to take just SSJ1 Broly.

[Alex9196]

Oh, didn't see that, well in this case Teen Gohan would win, I guess. But that is not really a matchup. SSJ2 Teen Gohan would destroy normal SSJ Broly.

[DBZAOTA482]

What if Piccolo Senior showed up to the 23rd Budokai and fought the human fighters there?

1. King Chappa
2. Chiaotzu
3. Yajirobe
4. Chi-Chi
5. Cyborg Tao
6. Yamcha
7. Krillin
8. Tien

SCENARIO #1: It's Old Piccolo Daimao at <50% power.

SCENARIO #2: If that Piccolo loses then have him fight at full power

SCENARIO #3: If that Piccolo loses as well then have Young Piccolo Daimao fight

How does he fare against them all?

[Doctor.]

What if Piccolo Senior showed up to the 23rd Budokai and fought the human fighters there?

1. King Chappa
2. Chiaotzu
3. Yajirobe
4. Chi-Chi
5. Cyborg Tao
6. Yamcha
7. Krillin
8. Tenshinhan

SCENARIO #1: It's Old Piccolo Daimao at <50% power.

SCENARIO #2: If that Piccolo loses then have him fight at full power

SCENARIO #3: If that Piccolo loses as well then have Young Piccolo Daimao fight

How does he fare against them all?

Scenario 1: Beats Yajirobe. No idea how he fares against Chi-Chi, but perhaps wins as well.
Scenario 2: Gets to Tao, not sure how strong both are in comparison to each other, so I'll just say Daimao since he's a 'demon' and whatnot.
Scenario 3: Beats Kuririn after a very tough fight and loses to Tenshinhan.

[LightBing]

What if Piccolo Senior showed up to the 23rd Budokai and fought the human fighters there?

1. King Chappa
2. Chiaotzu
3. Yajirobe
4. Chi-Chi
5. Cyborg Tao
6. Yamcha
7. Krillin
8. Tenshinhan

SCENARIO #1: It's Old Piccolo Daimao at <50% power.

SCENARIO #2: If that Piccolo loses then have him fight at full power

SCENARIO #3: If that Piccolo loses as well then have Young Piccolo Daimao fight

How does he fare against them all?

Scenario #1:
Beats Chappa with moderate difficulty and is toasted by Chiaotzu.

Scenario #2:
Defeat everyone until Tien. He's able to inflict some damage to Tien especially when he gets frustrated and uses wide area Ki attacks.

Scenario #3:
Defeats everyone. He might lose to Tien if he gets hit by a kihoho. Otherwise he has a very close fight, but always with the edge.

[Captain Space]

Scenario #3:
Defeats everyone. He might lose to Tenshinhan if he gets hit by a kihoho. Otherwise he has a very close fight, but always with the edge.

I'd argue that Tenshinhan could beat him--after all, he was able to take on weighted 23rd Goku, who must have been at least somewhat stronger than KP-arc Goku, and hence King Piccolo himself, or somebody would've noticed and thought it was weird (like Tenshinhan himself, who was there for the battle).

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

What if Piccolo Senior showed up to the 23rd Budokai and fought the human fighters there?

1. King Chappa
2. Chiaotzu
3. Yajirobe
4. Chi-Chi
5. Cyborg Tao
6. Yamcha
7. Krillin
8. Tenshinhan

SCENARIO #1: It's Old Piccolo Daimao at <50% power.

SCENARIO #2: If that Piccolo loses then have him fight at full power

SCENARIO #3: If that Piccolo loses as well then have Young Piccolo Daimao fight

How does he fare against them all?

Scenario 1: Loses to Chaozu, but I think he can beat Yajirobe.

Scenario 2: I have him even with Chichi, if he beats her he definitely loses to Cyborg Taopaipai.

Scenario 3: Gets up to Tenshinhan and gets stomped, Krillin puts up a good fight. Or ignore the fight between weighted Goku and Tenshinhan and have Tenshinhan below Young Daimao because the mighty Daizenshuu says so!

[Hero]

What if Piccolo Senior showed up to the 23rd Budokai and fought the human fighters there?

1. King Chappa
2. Chiaotzu
3. Yajirobe
4. Chi-Chi
5. Cyborg Tao
6. Yamcha
7. Krillin
8. Tenshinhan

SCENARIO #1: It's Old Piccolo Daimao at <50% power.

SCENARIO #2: If that Piccolo loses then have him fight at full power

SCENARIO #3: If that Piccolo loses as well then have Young Piccolo Daimao fight

How does he fare against them all?

Scenario 1: Loses to Chi Chi if she fights seriously.

Scenario 2: Loses to Yamcha in a long and hard battle. If he beats Yamcha then he loses to Krillin.

Scenario 3: Loses to Tien



And here are some fights of my own:


1. Cell Games SSJ Goku and Gohan vs. Full Power Perfect Cell

2. Buu SSJ Goku vs. FP Perfect Cell

3. Buu SSJ Goku and Buu SSJ Vegeta vs. FP Perfect Cell

4. Buu SSJ2 Vegeta vs. Super Perfect Cell

5. Buu SSJ2 Vegeta vs. CG SSJ2 Gohan


My answers:

1. The father-son duo can win this if Gohan distracts Cell long enough for Goku to do an IT KHH. Then Gohan can just blow the rest of Cell away before he can regenerate. Goku will have to fill Gohan in on this plan, though, and Gohan will have to be serious.

2. It goes down the same as CG Goku vs. The suppressed Cell he fought. Goku tries, but loses.

3. Cell is killed within minutes if they work together. If they decide to do it separately (like always) and fight amongst themselves then Cell could win, though I wouldn't give that more than a 33% chance of happening.

4. Vegeta wins in an extremely hard fought battle.

5. Vegeta beats a non-raging Gohan. Ragehan beats Vegeta, though.

[ZombieVito]

What if Piccolo Senior showed up to the 23rd Budokai and fought the human fighters there?

1. King Chappa
2. Chiaotzu
3. Yajirobe
4. Chi-Chi
5. Cyborg Tao
6. Yamcha
7. Krillin
8. Tenshinhan

SCENARIO #1: It's Old Piccolo Daimao at <50% power.

SCENARIO #2: If that Piccolo loses then have him fight at full power

SCENARIO #3: If that Piccolo loses as well then have Young Piccolo Daimao fight

How does he fare against them all?

Scenario 1: Losses to everyone except Chappa who he beats with mild difficulty.
Scenario 2: Only Tenshinhan can beat him with mild difficulty.
Scenario 3: He beats them all. Only having mild difficulty with Tenshinhan.

[Lord Beerus]

What if Piccolo Senior showed up to the 23rd Budokai and fought the human fighters there?

1. King Chappa
2. Chiaotzu
3. Yajirobe
4. Chi-Chi
5. Cyborg Tao
6. Yamcha
7. Krillin
8. Tenshinhan

SCENARIO #1: It's Old Piccolo Daimao at <50% power.

SCENARIO #2: If that Piccolo loses then have him fight at full power

SCENARIO #3: If that Piccolo loses as well then have Young Piccolo Daimao fight

How does he fare against them all?

Scenario #1: Doesn't make it past Yajirobe
Scenario #2: Makes it all the way up to Tien before getting his ass kicked
Scenario #3: Clears the list

[Captain Space]

And here are some fights of my own:


1. Cell Games SSJ Goku and Gohan vs. Full Power Perfect Cell

2. Buu SSJ Goku vs. FP Perfect Cell

3. Buu SSJ Goku and Buu SSJ Vegeta vs. FP Perfect Cell

4. Buu SSJ2 Vegeta vs. Super Perfect Cell

5. Buu SSJ2 Vegeta vs. CG SSJ2 Gohan

1. Gohan should be within the vicinity of Cell's power if not above it, with Goku's assistance and guidance he should be fine.

2. If he's stronger than CG Gohan, I guess Goku.

3. Given the above, Goku and Vegeta.

4. Given that Dabura was around (at least Perfect) Cell's level, and SSJ1 Gohan wasn't too outmatched against Dabura, and Vegeta was above him...Vegeta.

5. Gohan. Vegeta only realised Goku had surpassed CG Gohan when they were about to fight--he didn't realise it in that 'flash' of SSJ2 against Yakon, but that 'flash' was above Vegeta's current level. So if we're talking about non-Majin Vegeta, he was still considerably weaker than CG Gohan.