Toriyama confirms Golden Frieza's power level...?

[MisterGuyMan]

This is not same quote where Frieza's voice actor, Ryusei Nakao, made a pun on Frieza being a nice guy so he had a PL of 100 quinillion Ryusei Nakao. This is from an apparent interview with Toriyama that mostly centered on why Roshi was so powerful in the most recent movie. I searched the forums and I couldn't find a reference to this interview just the Nakao one.

Here:
"Japanese news website, Buzz Plus News shares the opinions of Toriyama Akira, the creator of the Dragon Ball series, on this viral discussion of Kame Senin%u2019s sudden power-up:

...

Kame Senin hasn’t been fighting seriously up until now!?
“In other words, up until the events of this movie, he hasn’t made any serious effort in fighting (laughs)! Generally looking at what’s happening in the movie, I believe Krillin is displaying an equal, or perhaps more, fighting power than Kame Senin. By the way, in this movie, Golden Frieza’s power level is at one hundred quintillion (100’000’000’000’000’000’000)."
http://jnetworkonline.com/2015/04/23/ma ... ira-gives/
Original japanese website: http://buzz-plus.com/article/2015/04/21/dragon-z/

Thoughts? Just wanted to run this by the board to make sure it's legit and a good translation.

EDIT: The original 100 quintillion reference was by Frieza's voice actor Ryusei Nakao which was merely a joke. I'll post up the reference for background information:
By the way, how high do you suppose Freeza’s battle power has gotten now?
"He’s a nice guy, so maybe 100 quintillion?"
Note: Nakao is making a pun on Freeza being a “nice guy” (ナイスガイ; naisu gai) and his battle power being a “hundred quintillion” (垓; gai).
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... sei-nakao/

[h0kuten]

It looks like a serious power reference to me.

It also looks like there are 2 references to Frieza's full power, one with someone who participated in the movie and the other is Toriyama stating what Frieza's power level is himself. Since the 100 Quintillion number is holding, it's quite obvious it's true.

Unless this is a false interview than it is time to rework our power levels with maximum bloat.

[MisterGuyMan]

It also looks like there are 2 references to Freeza's full power, one with someone who participated in the movie and the other is Toriyama stating what Freeza's power level is himself. Since the 100 Quintillion number is holding, it's quite obvious it's true.

That was Ryusei Nakao's statement. I'll add it to the opening post to give more background.

[h0kuten]

It also looks like there are 2 references to Freeza's full power, one with someone who participated in the movie and the other is Toriyama stating what Freeza's power level is himself. Since the 100 Quintillion number is holding, it's quite obvious it's true.

That was Ryusei Nakao's statement. I'll add it to the opening post to give more background.

Than it's official.

Golden Frieza's power level is 100 Quintillion.

Fans keep trying to downplay the new material, but it looks like they are debunked regardless.

[fadeddreams5]

I always wait till Kanzenshuu confirms this sort of stuff now.

But if Master Roshi is really as strong as Krillin all of a sudden...ugh... :sick:

[Ajay]

Nakao said it in a newspaper article. He was joking.

[Herms]

The statements and opinions attributed to Toriyama in that rather poorly done translation were in fact made by the writer of the Buzz Plus article, rather than Toriyama himself. The article writer simply mentions Toriyama's comment in Volume "F" that Kame-sennin could always have been as strong as he's portrayed in RoF if he had only put his mind to it. That's the only actual statement from Toriyama. The article writer then goes on to add their opinion that Kame-sennin may be the strongest Earthling, and mentions Nakao's statement about Golden Freeza's battle power being 100 quintillion. Toriyama did not say those things, and the page offering an English translation shows extremely poor comprehension of the original Japanese article by presenting it as if did.

[dbgtFO]

The statements and opinions attributed to Toriyama in that rather poorly done translation were in fact made by the writer of the Buzz Plus article. The article writer mentions Toriyama's comment in Volume "F" that Kame-sennin could always have been as strong as he's portrayed in RoF if he had only put his mind to it. That's the only actual statement from Toriyama. The article writer then goes on to add their opinion that Kame-sennin may be the strongest Earthling, and mentions Nakao's statement about Golden Freeza's battle power being 100 quintillion. Toriyama did not say those things, and the page offering an English translation shows extremely poor comprehension of the original Japanese article by presenting it as if Toriyama wrote the entire thing, when in fact he was merely quoted in it.

Thank you Herms!
It's good to nip these crazy speculative articles in the bud, before it spreads and everyone starts saying it as if it were fact.

[MisterGuyMan]

Thanks. Good to know.

[Herms]

To be clear, the Buzz Plus writer doesn't directly attribute the "100 quintillion" thing to Nakao, they just mention it without attributing it to anybody, Toriyama, Nakao, or otherwise. But we do know Nakao is the first person to have said it. And, again, the Japanese article itself does not attribute it to Toriyama, that's just a mistake made by the English translation.

Anyway, the only quote from Toriyama in the entire article is this bit:

「その気になりさえすれば、もともとあれくらいは強い」
"If he had only felt like it, he could have been roughly that strong all along."

This quote comes from Volume "F", which I know because I happen to own it, but the article writer doesn't mention it by name, only saying it's from a "publication". They make it clear that they did not personally interview Toriyama, and are just quoting his statement made elsewhere.

And that's it. Everything else is just the words of some random Buzz Plus writer. Not that there's anything wrong with them, but obviously people shouldn't be thinking Toriyama wrote them when he didn't.

[Lord Beerus]

I though this was already debunked as a joke and not to be taken seriously? Either way, Herms has already filled us in on the speculation.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Although I will say that I think it makes sense for Roshi to be able to improve and get his PL up to 4 digits or higher if he put serious effort into it.

[Avenged]

The English dub has Freeza saying his power level will be over one million, was that said in the original?

[VegettoEX]

The English dub has Freeza saying his power level will be over one million, was that said in the original?

Yes. He says he estimates that by training for four months he should be able to achieve a battle power of 1.3 million.

[Avenged]

The English dub has Freeza saying his power level will be over one million, was that said in the original?

Yes. He says he estimates that by training for four months he should be able to achieve a battle power of 1.3 million.

I guess everyone forgot he achieved 1 mil in his second form.

[VegettoEX]

I guess everyone forgot he achieved 1 mil in his second form.

Well, he's standing around in his first form when he's saying this, so maybe he's talking about setting that as the baseline battle power for first form (up from the 530,000 before)...? I dunno, that's how I'd interpret it if I was forced to!

[dbzfan7]

I guess everyone forgot he achieved 1 mil in his second form.

Well, he's standing around in his first form when he's saying this, so maybe he's talking about setting that as the baseline battle power for first form (up from the 530,000 before)...? I dunno, that's how I'd interpret it if I was forced to!

I simply think they just thought a million was a big number still, and rolled with it. No one seemed to remember that Freeza acquired such a level already. They had other things on their mind than being consistent with battle power, and just didn't focus on this aspect. If someone brought this up to Toriyama, he'd probably be like "Oops, oh well."

[KameRule]

With that BP, he would be able to destroy just over 300 of our sun in one attack, without a great deal of exertion. Some may say that it's way too low, but I wouldn't necessarily argue if that number was official.

Because everyone loves power scaling.

[singsing]

Although I will say that I think it makes sense for Roshi to be able to improve and get his PL up to 4 digits or higher if he put serious effort into it.

Didn't he put serious effort into it his entire life and ended up less than 200 at his peak?

[mmg86]

I took it as simply a line that came out badly, and that he may have meant "1300000 times".
Like, he is assuming that in four months, he will achieve a power level of 120 million X 1300000. So thats what i would estimate his Golden Form at.