Unpopular DB opinions

[Polyphase Avatron]

Buu didn't become a rehash of Freeza and Cell until the Super Buu arc. Before that he was very unique, and Kid Buu was also unlike his predecessors.

[Hellspawn28]

Super Buu felt like a rehash of Cell given how they can both can regen at crazy levels, they can stronger and change by absorbing other characters, their personalities change with each form and both went back to normal when the other people that they absorb where remove from their body (#17 for Cell, Piccolo, Gohan and Gotenks for Buu).

[fadeddreams5]

Besides some similar abilities, Super Buu is nothing like Cell.

Unless we're talking about Buutenks/Buuhan. There, I can see the similarities.

[Hellspawn28]

I don't view Cell as a rehash as Freeza in my opinion. They both had different motivations since Freeza wanted to be immortal so no one can beat him and rule the universe while Cell wanted to become the ultimate life form and compete Gero's goal on killing Goku. Freeza wanted to use the Dragon Balls while Cell did not.

[TheGmGoken]

Super Buu felt like a rehash of Cell given how they can both can regen at crazy levels, they can stronger and change by absorbing other characters, their personalities change with each form and both went back to normal when the other people that they absorb where remove from their body (#17 for Cell, Piccolo, Gohan and Gotenks for Buu).

And before Toriyama reckon. Boo was created by an inferior being for destruction

[Attitudefan]

Super Buu felt like a rehash of Cell given how they can both can regen at crazy levels, they can stronger and change by absorbing other characters, their personalities change with each form and both went back to normal when the other people that they absorb where remove from their body (#17 for Cell, Piccolo, Gohan and Gotenks for Buu).

And before Toriyama reckon. Boo was created by an inferior being for destruction

If you take out their names and what they look like, and you try to describe them, specifically Super Buu and Cell, you will literally end up with nearly the same discription. I just think whatever Buu did similar or the same in comparison to Cell, Buu did better.

[Hellspawn28]

#13 felt like a rehash from Cell too given how they are both created by Dr. Gero to kill Goku and can transform into a even stronger form by absorbing two other cyborgs.

[LuckyCat]

Powers aside, I think Cell is the only villain who can beat the Z fighters on cunning alone. Cell faces countless opponents with higher power levels than him, and yet he's able to come out on top with his knowledge of the Z fighters and smart planning. In that sense, Cell is nothing like Buu or Freeza who rely on power alone to their own demise.

[Doctor.]

Powers aside, I think Cell is the only villain who can beat the Z fighters on cunning alone. Cell faces countless opponents with higher power levels than him, and yet he's able to come out on top with his knowledge of the Z fighters and smart planning. In that sense, Cell is nothing like Buu or Freeza who rely on power alone to their own demise.

I wouldn't say he was exactly smart, he just knew how to hide his power well (an ability he was born with). He got outsmarted by Piccolo (from an ability he should have known Piccolo had), was made a fool of by Vegeta and only achieved his perfect form because Vegeta decided to be a prick.

Boo is, ironically, the most cunning villain.

[fadeddreams5]

Cell progressively got more stupid with every transformation. His arrogance got in the way of his judgement.

Super Buu is, ironically, the most cunning villain in the series.

Boo is, ironically, the most cunning villain.

Ha. I didn't see this.

[ABED]

was made a fool of by Vegeta and only achieved his perfect form because Vegeta decided to be a prick.

Which was smart of him to play on Vegeta's weakness.

[Doctor.]

was made a fool of by Vegeta and only achieved his perfect form because Vegeta decided to be a prick.

Which was smart of him to play on Vegeta's weakness.

It wasn't smart. If someone is beating me up and then gives me a gun and I take it, I'm not being smart, he's just being stupid instead.

[DBZAOTA482]

was made a fool of by Vegeta and only achieved his perfect form because Vegeta decided to be a prick.

Which was smart of him to play on Vegeta's weakness.

It wasn't smart. If someone is beating me up and then gives me a gun and I take it, I'm not being smart, he's just being stupid instead.

Vegeta didn't give him an opportunity. Cell talked him into it.

[LuckyCat]

I wouldn't say he was exactly smart, he just knew how to hide his power well (an ability he was born with). He got outsmarted by Piccolo (from an ability he should have known Piccolo had)

And then he proceeded to outsmart Piccolo and Trunks and got away with a single move. He gets arrogant like all the villains, but he's able to pull out some smart tactics even in unwinnable situations (Cell versus SSJ2 Gohan, for example).

was made a fool of by Vegeta and only achieved his perfect form because Vegeta decided to be a prick.

Others have addressed this, but this is a canon scene of Cell manipulating Vegeta when he knows he can't win on his current power. It's really one of Cell's better scenes, as he's able to not only use Saiyan knowledge to get out of his fight with Vegeta, he turns Vegeta to his cause for perfection to prevent Trunks from interfering.

Boo is, ironically, the most cunning villain.

Not sure about that. His playful nature almost gets him defeated by Super Gotenks 3 and he seems to only be saved by the time limit.

[ABED]

It wasn't smart. If someone is beating me up and then gives me a gun and I take it, I'm not being smart, he's just being stupid instead.

No, it was smart on the part of Cell. He was inferior and used his knowledge of Vegeta to keep from getting killed. How does that not show cunning? If you were able to convince your attacker to give you the gun, that would be smart.

[fadeddreams5]

Boo is, ironically, the most cunning villain.

Not sure about that. His playful nature almost gets him defeated by Super Gotenks 3 and he seems to only be saved by the time limit.

I think that was more of a matter of SSJ3 Gotenks getting the better of him in combat. Though Super Buu may have underestimated him too.

I personally feel he's cunning because he
- Scouts out and kills all humans so he can fight Gotenks faster.
- Knows he can't beat Gohan, so gives himself a short rest period before coming up with a master plan.
- Makes sure a piece of him remains on the ground as a plan B, and subsequently absorbs Gohan.
-Uses every trick in the book against Vegito (seriously, he strategized A LOT). Though, unfortunately, the latter was simply too powerful.

Cell just did what he was designed to: absorb humans to get stronger and seek out the androids. He stole Trunks' time machine to accomplish his goal. He was clever enough to use the solar flare, escape, and hide his power level. Also, it was smart of him to manipulate Vegeta, knowing full well of his nature, so he could become perfect. However, then things went downhill. Once his purpose was complete, his arrogance and ego were overwhelming. When Gohan dominated him, he fell into a horrific state of denial (Buu, again, knew whenever he was beaten, and planned for those moments). Later, the idiot got a second chance at life, and decided to instantly come back to Earth because he's ~soooo perfect~.

[RandomGuy96]

Boo is, ironically, the most cunning villain.

Not sure about that. His playful nature almost gets him defeated by Super Gotenks 3 and he seems to only be saved by the time limit.

Not his playful nature. Gotenks' strength. If you actually go back and look at that fight, Gotenks is much stronger. It's a very similar fight to Mr. Buu vs Pure Buu. If anything, this is just another good example of Buu being smarter than he looks. After it is apparent that he's outmatched, he spends a lot of time hiding his ki and playing dead until he learns Gotenks is almost out of time and needs an hour to fuse again. Then he gives Gotenks a long enough fight that Gotenks will fall for his fusion plan, but doesn't give him enough time to actually win.

If all he wanted to do was kill Gotenks, he could have just kept hiding. Gotenks actually thought he had killed Buu. If Buu just stayed down with his ki hidden for another few minutes, Gotenks would have defused, and Buu could have killed Goten and Trunks. But he was planning ahead, for Gohan, who he already knew was coming (his ki sensing skills seem to be better than everybody else's, he was the only one who sensed Gohan's power growing in the Kaioshin realm).

[Lord Beerus]

Super Buu is, ironically, the most cunning villain in the series.

Amen to that. Super Boo always found one way to be ahead of the Z-Fighters, even if it was by accident. He's also the only villain to never lose in a one on one battle.

[TheGmGoken]

Super Buu is, ironically, the most cunning villain in the series.

Amen to that. Super Boo always found one was to be ahead of the Z-Fighters, even if it was by accident. He's also the only villain to never lose in a one on one battle.

He lost to Gohan. Though it was apart of the plan to lose.

[Lord Beerus]

Super Buu is, ironically, the most cunning villain in the series.

Amen to that. Super Boo always found one was to be ahead of the Z-Fighters, even if it was by accident. He's also the only villain to never lose in a one on one battle.

He lost to Gohan. Though it was apart of the plan to lose.

He didn't lose to Gohan. Gohan through a few punches and kicks and then Boo blew himself up to stall for time. Then the Boo reformed, absorbed SSJ3 Gotenks and Piccolo and then the fight restarted, and Boo beat the everlasting crap out of Gohan, and would then later absorb him. So Super Boo won in the end.