Why did Akira Toriyama and the Anime forget this concept...

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Why did Akira Toriyama and the Anime forget this concept...

Post by h0kuten » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:37 pm

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The rocks lifting when people charge their Ki. The last time Toriyama used it was when Gohan charged his Ki with the Ginyu Force.

Why did Toriyama forget it? It's such a cool concept.

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Post by Marco Polo » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:43 pm

Out-of-universe: It was probably too much of a bother to draw.

In-universe: Why would they waste ki raising rocks for no reason? It's better to learn to contain your ki so that you can release it in actual, focused attacks and blasts.

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Re: Why did Akira Toriyama and the Anime forget this concept

Post by h0kuten » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:47 pm

Marco Polo wrote:Out-of-universe: It was probably too much of a bother to draw.

In-universe: Why would they waste ki raising rocks for no reason? It's better to learn to contain your ki so that you can release it in actual, focused attacks and blasts.
I always thought of it as a side effect for when they charge their Ki. It just naturally happens.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:09 pm

The characters in Dragon Ball just got so much better at controlling there ki when powering up that is causes less minor environmental damage.

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Post by NeoKING » Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:56 am

Because as the series went on, charging up had bigger, grander effects. Look at Gohan being engulfed by this fire tornado thing in the beginning of his fight against Cell, and then Gotenks changing dimensions against Buu.

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Post by Xeogran » Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:38 am

h0kuten wrote:The last time Toriyama used it was when Gohan charged his Ki with the Ginyu Force.
Not true, it happened during Cooler's transformation as well.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:53 am

From the shots in the trailer it looks like Freeza did something similar in Resurrection "F", maybe someone who has seen the film can confirm?

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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:15 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:From the shots in the trailer it looks like Freeza did something similar in Resurrection "F", maybe someone who has seen the film can confirm?
Both Goku and Freeza do it when they transform into Bluper Saiyan & Golden respectively. Not as grand a scale as shown in the first Goku VS Vegeta fight but it's there .
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Re: Why did Akira Toriyama and the Anime forget this concept

Post by dario03 » Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:52 pm

Vegeta does it against Fat Buu. Though its actually a controlled attack that time. Which I always thought was odd since that's not a normal thing for him (except for filler on Arlia and maybe against Freeza, not sure if he did it or Freeza did).

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Re: Why did Akira Toriyama and the Anime forget this concept

Post by soulnova » Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:10 pm

Interesting note: There was a manga artist (don't remember his name) who actually survived one of the atomic bombs and went on to make some series and movie about it. He describes in his works that with the first flash of the blast, pebbles and particles of dirt actually seemed to float before the actual expansive wave hit everything. I will take his word for it.
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Re: Why did Akira Toriyama and the Anime forget this concept

Post by Galan007 » Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:49 pm

We also saw it when Gohan went SSJ2 for Kibito--though it was a much more localized effect:

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