Questions about Beerus

[OWmyDragonBallz]

After watching episode 6 of Super, I still can't figure these things out. But why doesn't Gotenks go SSJ3 anymore? Do you think TOEI is now planning to fix Gohan to stay in his "Mightiest Warrior" power up for good? The preview seems to suggest that Beerus will get a kick out of his power but then shrug it off.
And above all, why doesn't Beerus know who Majin Boo is? Majin Boo has been around since the beginning of time as stated by Toriyama.

[fadeddreams5]

Gotenks - Just a writing choice. Whether he was SSJ3 or not, he'd still get his butt kicked, and his base form just happens to be more familiar. I don't think Toriyama likes the notion of three transformations for a saiyan anymore--he'd want to opt with just one.

Buu - Kid/Pure Buu existed since the beginning of time. Mr. Buu is someone created later on. Beerus probably does not recognize him. That, or Beerus happened to be asleep throughout Buu's rampage. It's also important to note that the Kaioshin believed Bibidi created Buu, so even he was not aware that Buu has existed for as long as time itself. This might be an important plot point later on; Uub is a thing, so Kid Buu will likely get mentioned again in Super.

[OWmyDragonBallz]

Gotenks - Just a writing choice. Whether he was SSJ3 or not, he'd still get his butt kicked, and his base form just happens to be more familiar. I don't think Toriyama likes the notion of three transformations for a saiyan anymore--he'd want to opt with just one.

Buu - Kid/Pure Buu existed since the beginning of time. Mr. Buu is someone created later on. Beerus probably does not recognize him. That, or Beerus happened to be asleep throughout Buu's rampage. It's also important to note that the Kaioshin believed Bibidi created Buu, so even he was not aware that Buu has existed for as long as time itself. This might be an important plot point later on; Uub is a thing, so Kid Buu will likely get mentioned again in Super.

Beerus has existed for millions of years, it seems very fishy that he wouldn't know who Boo was. I know he would get his butt kicked even as SSJ3, but it seems weird once again that he wouldn't use his all on Beerus. Ultimate Gohan possibly might actually be acknowledged in Super from the next episode preview.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Just like with Battle of Gods, I don't think the Gotenks thing is too far of a stretch. He is extremely cocky and Beerus' energy can't be sensed. His attacking in base though is pushing it a little, especially if he fights after Gohan. Starting as a Super Saiyan, like in the film, would have been a better option because he would at least have the excuse that he didn't want to jump straight to SS3 since he can only use it for 5 minutes. (Though, as the audience, we know it's pointless regardless.)

Gohan Ultimate state is in Super's opening animation, the preview of Episode 7 and yes, technically in Battle of Gods (regardless of how it was originally animated). We've had the tired debate a hundred times that just because he has said state, it doesn't mean he can't go Super Saiyan at all. People can interpret it that way, but nothing says, as a hard fact, that he lost the form. All we know is that if he has it, it doesn't do him any good in terms of power for the time being. Whether it sticks around for Super's "F" Arc is another question we can't answer. It should if they want to remain consistent with the end of the series, but who knows.

As for Buu, I've said this more than a dozen times in regards to other things: Beerus is a cat, and he is forgetful. He often needs Whis to remind him of things they just discussed;, having forgotten Super Saiyan God by the time he gets to Kaio's planet and seemingly never remembering Goku's name. Mr. Buu doesn't resemble the pure Buu that has existed since the beginning of time. I see no problem with him not recognizing him as long as no one says the actual name "Majin Buu" while Beerus is standing there paying attention.

[Darkprince410]

In addition to what others have been saying, why would Beerus have necessarily even come across Buu at any point in the past? Given the nature that we saw Pure Buu had, it's no doubt that if Beerus had ever come across Pure Buu, that Buu would have tried starting something with him and would have most likely been destroyed on the spot. The two likely never crossed paths with one another, and it's safe to say that the Kaioushin never warned Beerus about Buu before, because Kibitoshin suggested he had merely "heard" of Beerus before when it came to his first introduction in Super.

[Marco Polo]

Buu has existed for millions of years, not the literal beginning of time.

[Kamiccolo9]

Buu has existed for millions of years, not the literal beginning of time.

Though in the manga Kaiōshin said that Bibidi made him, the truth is that one called “Buu” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial. He cycled between rampages and long hibernation. During numerous iterations of this cycle, he absorbed the evil elements of mankind, becoming steadily more violent. Bibidi merely knew the means of calling Buu from out of his long slumber. Since the current Buu is a slightly different life-form due to the changes brought about when the evil Buu was expelled, it’s not known whether he’ll still go into long hibernation.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... mysteries/

[iop890]

Buu has existed for millions of years, not the literal beginning of time.

Though in the manga Kaiōshin said that Bibidi made him, the truth is that one called “Buu” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial. He cycled between rampages and long hibernation. During numerous iterations of this cycle, he absorbed the evil elements of mankind, becoming steadily more violent. Bibidi merely knew the means of calling Buu from out of his long slumber. Since the current Buu is a slightly different life-form due to the changes brought about when the evil Buu was expelled, it’s not known whether he’ll still go into long hibernation.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... mysteries/

Time immemorial means since before memory, a time before anyone remembers or before any records. Not necessarily since the beginning of time.

I guess Herms could clarify the exact meaning since it may have been lost in translation.

If Buu really has existed since the literal beginning of time then he's not getting nearly enough attention because thats amazing.

Hopefully this is something that will be at least mentioned in Super and expounded on. Hopefully Toriyama retconned this for a reason.

[Marco Polo]

Time immemorial means since before memory, a time before anyone remembers or before any records. Not necessarily since the beginning of time.

Thank you.

[Birusu16]

1. Gotenks not going SSJ3 doesn't make any sense at all, especially considering he just witnessed Gohan get beat with one kick. In Super it's even worse as it looks as if he'll fight Beerus in base. Of course if he fights before Gohan then it makes more sense as to why he wouldn't transform considering he can't sense Beerus' energy.
2. There's a couple plausible reasons for this. Beerus might of just slept through Buu's rampage or he simply doesn't recognize him due to his appearance changing after absorbing the Dai Kaioshin.

[Herms]

Time immemorial means since before memory, a time before anyone remembers or before any records. Not necessarily since the beginning of time.

I guess Herms could clarify the exact meaning since it may have been lost in translation.

If Buu really has existed since the literal beginning of time then he's not getting nearly enough attention because thats amazing.

In Japanese it's 昔の太古/mukashi no taiko, basically just meaning "really, really long ago", rather than literally since the beginning of time.