The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[fadeddreams5]

What if Kami never made earth's dragon balls?

The show would be called "Goku." And it'd basically be Japan's Tarzan, minus the talking with animals. In fact, most of the scenes would involve animal abuse.

[Berserker1921]

Gohan (Cell Games; after beating Cell) - The one who tapped into his hidden potential and saved the world.

Gohan (Ultimate) - The one who slacked, clearly regretted it, but was later blessed with a new power and will to fight.

Gohan (F) - The one who abandoned all martial arts in favor of his studies and family life.

They are all teleported into a conference room together.

What do they tell each other?

Gohan (Cell Games; after beating Cell): So I become even more stronger than I was against Cell by sitting down and doing nothing?
Gohan (Ultimate): Well... father was proud.
Gohan (F): And later on... you become a dad and you're on your way to being a scholar.
Gohan (Cell Games; after beating Cell): I still manage to save the day when it matters, right?
Gohan (Ultimate): Uh... well... I get beaten and killed by a giant pink monster that can turn people into candy.
Gohan (F): And Freeza returns to nearly kill me in his first form. But you have a beautiful wife and daugh--
Gohan (Cell Games; after beating Cell): ...This conference is over. I must go and reevaluate my priorities.

Honestly gohan would be happy with his life. Where it is now. He doesn't like fighting. He likes just being a normal kid. I mean he never had a normal childhood and he knows his dad could take down about any threat out there. I mean why would he care? Should he keep training? If he wants too. However overall he is happy. He prob only get back into the spotlight if they go to universe 6. And gohan has to become a god.

[Berserker1921]

What if Kami never made earth's dragon balls?

Everyone would be dead at one point or another and eventually the world lol.

[Berserker1921]

What if dragon ball multiverse included dbgt, dragon ball af, and db super? Would they completely wreck those characters?

[Lord Beerus]

What if dragon ball multiverse included dbgt, dragon ball af, and db super? Would they completely wreck those characters?

Tori-Bot.

[Analytical Delusion]

Not sure if this is a "what-if", but since it's not a part of the main timeline I figured this was the right place to ask.

In light of the new material, what the heck happens in Cell's and Trunks's timelines?

Presumably Babidi never finds enough energy to wake up Buu, without SSJ2 level characters. Does Beerus stop by Earth in Trunks's timeline? Not a Super Saiyan God, and no way of becoming one, maybe he blows up Earth when he gets there out of disappointment (or maybe the Oracle Fish never has that premonition). In Cell's timeline, all the Saiyans are dead, so maybe humanity can rebuild, without any heroes or universal threats.

No Dragon Balls on Earth in either timeline, and the remnants of Freeza's empire won't find Dragon Balls on Earth since Piccolo doesn't exist and Dende isn't there since Goku isn't around to teleport. They likely won't find New Namek either, though who knows. Maybe Sorbet has his men invade Earth anyway (though I'd say no, since they were spread out thin), since I believe Freeza or King Cold did say Earth would be a nice addition to the empire/trading market. Though if Beerus never stops by, Trunks should handle them (weirdness with Shisami rivaling Piccolo aside).

[Berserker1921]

Not sure if this is a "what-if", but since it's not a part of the main timeline I figured this was the right place to ask.

In light of the new material, what the heck happens in Cell's and Trunks's timelines?

Presumably Babidi never finds enough energy to wake up Buu, without SSJ2 level characters. Does Beerus stop by Earth in Trunks's timeline? Not a Super Saiyan God, and no way of becoming one, maybe he blows up Earth when he gets there out of disappointment (or maybe the Oracle Fish never has that premonition). In Cell's timeline, all the Saiyans are dead, so maybe humanity can rebuild, without any heroes or universal threats.

No Dragon Balls on Earth in either timeline, and the remnants of Freeza's empire won't find Dragon Balls on Earth since Piccolo doesn't exist and Dende isn't there since Goku isn't around to teleport. They likely won't find New Namek either, though who knows. Maybe Sorbet has his men invade Earth anyway (though I'd say no, since they were spread out thin), since I believe Freeza or King Cold did say Earth would be a nice addition to the empire/trading market. Though if Beerus never stops by, Trunks should handle them (weirdness with Shisami rivaling Piccolo aside).

Beerus would find no interest in earth. But who knows he may go to the after life to seek out Goku and the gang. Also trunks would most likely be training. I like this theory from heroes that he trained and potentially got ssj3 however ssj2 would be his limit without the Kai's help of unlocking potential or the ssjgod ritual. And didn't trunks kill cell in his universe?

[Hellspawn28]

What if Kami never made earth's dragon balls?

Everyone would be dead by Radditz. One Dragon Ball is the reason why the whole series happen. Pilaf and RR Army would never try to take over the World. Bluma would never went on a quest for the perfect boy friend. Goku would have lived on his own, Yamcha would have still been a thief, Krillin could have still train with Roshi while Tien would still be a bad guy. Piccolo would have never been awaken and Chi Chi would end up marrying someone else. Vegeta, Nappa and Radditz would have kept on working with Freeza and Beerus & Whis would have wipe out Freeza's empire later on. Buu would have never been awaken since there would be no ki for Babidi and Dabra to use.

[Lunatic Fringe]

What if Freeza didn't take Zarbon and Dodoria with him to Namek?
What if Yamcha never reformed?
What if Goku won the 22nd WMAT?

[Hellspawn28]

What if Yamcha marry Chi Chi?

[DBZAOTA482]

What if Yamcha marry Chi Chi?

She wouldn't become that "horrid shrew bitch" we know her in DBZ. Yamcha is much better family man material than Goku.

They have a kid. They make super duper strong with minimal training and it is the Earth's greatest savior.

[dbzfan7]

Gohan (Cell Games; after beating Cell) - The one who tapped into his hidden potential and saved the world.

Gohan (Ultimate) - The one who slacked, clearly regretted it, but was later blessed with a new power and will to fight.

Gohan (F) - The one who abandoned all martial arts in favor of his studies and family life.

They are all teleported into a conference room together.

What do they tell each other?

I'd like to add Future Gohan into the mix.

Spoiler:

CG Gohan: Wow I get to finally live my life as a scholar.

U Gohan: I'm glad my studies paid off.

F Gohan: It's nice I have a peaceful future.

Faff Gohan: Well no we've had like 3 alien invasions, but good thing Dad was there to save us in time.

F Gohan: Wait you let father protect everyone? You know the minute dad isn't around all things go to hell right? By the time I tried to be a protector, everyone was dead.

CG Gohan: I love my father, but if we keep counting on him we'll return back to that scared 4 year old we once were. I'm not really that into fighting, but I don't want to be helpless to protect my friends and family.

U Gohan: When I didn't train for 7 years I could have stopped Dabura no problem. Maybe I could have stopped Boo too. In fact I let my guard down and nearly put the world at risk. How did you protect Videl and Pan?

Faff: Oh I let dad do it, though Freeza kinda killed my family and blew up earth since I couldn't stop him.

CG Gohan: Wow if I become you I basically can't even save my own family.

U Gohan: You know I want to be a scholar, but I don't think I can be one if the world is destroyed. Perhaps I should put some time into being able to protect it so I can ensure my future.

F Gohan: Take it from me if you don't protect the world, you won't have a future as a scholar...or a life cause I die.

Faff Gohan: Come on guys, dad can do everything for us.

CG/U/F Gohan: Meeting adjourned.

[Berserker1921]

What if Yamcha marry Chi Chi?

She wouldn't become that "horrid shrew bitch" we know her in DBZ. Yamcha is much better family man material than Goku.

I hate all this chi chi hate. She just wants something good for her sons. I mean look at Goku. Sure he is a good guy. But not only is the solution to all the world's problems. He is also the cause for a lot of it. She wants her sons to be better people. Should she have lighten up especially when they had they had threats like majin Buu and cell. Yes. But she did a great job with both of them. Also yamcha would cheat on her since he was known to be a play boy.

[Doctor.]

Gohan (Cell Games; after beating Cell) - The one who tapped into his hidden potential and saved the world.

Gohan (Ultimate) - The one who slacked, clearly regretted it, but was later blessed with a new power and will to fight.

Gohan (F) - The one who abandoned all martial arts in favor of his studies and family life.

They are all teleported into a conference room together.

What do they tell each other?

I'd like to add Future Gohan into the mix.

Spoiler:

CG Gohan: Wow I get to finally live my life as a scholar.

U Gohan: I'm glad my studies paid off.

F Gohan: It's nice I have a peaceful future.

Faff Gohan: Well no we've had like 3 alien invasions, but good thing Dad was there to save us in time.

F Gohan: Wait you let father protect everyone? You know the minute dad isn't around all things go to hell right? By the time I tried to be a protector, everyone was dead.

CG Gohan: I love my father, but if we keep counting on him we'll return back to that scared 4 year old we once were. I'm not really that into fighting, but I don't want to be helpless to protect my friends and family.

U Gohan: When I didn't train for 7 years I could have stopped Dabura no problem. Maybe I could have stopped Boo too. In fact I let my guard down and nearly put the world at risk. How did you protect Videl and Pan?

Faff: Oh I let dad do it, though Freeza kinda killed my family and blew up earth since I couldn't stop him.

CG Gohan: Wow if I become you I basically can't even save my own family.

U Gohan: You know I want to be a scholar, but I don't think I can be one if the world is destroyed. Perhaps I should put some time into being able to protect it so I can ensure my future.

F Gohan: Take it from me if you don't protect the world, you won't have a future as a scholar...or a life cause I die.

Faff Gohan: Come on guys, dad can do everything for us.

CG/U/F Gohan: Meeting adjourned.

I think even GT Gohan would be ashamed of faff Gohan.

[Lord Beerus]

What if Freeza didn't take Zarbon and Dodoria with him to Namek?
What if Yamcha never reformed?
What if Goku won the 22nd WMAT?

- Vegeta doesn't gain the boost in strength he gets from Zarbon kicking his ass. But is inconsequential.
- Nothing really changes. Yamcha doesn't contribute much to plot other than getting his ass kicked.
- Nothing changes

[Man-Child]

What if Dragon Ball didn't follow the multiverse theory, and instead, was just one time line and universe?

[Berserker1921]

Gohan (Cell Games; after beating Cell) - The one who tapped into his hidden potential and saved the world.

Gohan (Ultimate) - The one who slacked, clearly regretted it, but was later blessed with a new power and will to fight.

Gohan (F) - The one who abandoned all martial arts in favor of his studies and family life.

They are all teleported into a conference room together.

What do they tell each other?

I'd like to add Future Gohan into the mix.

Spoiler:

CG Gohan: Wow I get to finally live my life as a scholar.

U Gohan: I'm glad my studies paid off.

F Gohan: It's nice I have a peaceful future.

Faff Gohan: Well no we've had like 3 alien invasions, but good thing Dad was there to save us in time.

F Gohan: Wait you let father protect everyone? You know the minute dad isn't around all things go to hell right? By the time I tried to be a protector, everyone was dead.

CG Gohan: I love my father, but if we keep counting on him we'll return back to that scared 4 year old we once were. I'm not really that into fighting, but I don't want to be helpless to protect my friends and family.

U Gohan: When I didn't train for 7 years I could have stopped Dabura no problem. Maybe I could have stopped Boo too. In fact I let my guard down and nearly put the world at risk. How did you protect Videl and Pan?

Faff: Oh I let dad do it, though Freeza kinda killed my family and blew up earth since I couldn't stop him.

CG Gohan: Wow if I become you I basically can't even save my own family.

U Gohan: You know I want to be a scholar, but I don't think I can be one if the world is destroyed. Perhaps I should put some time into being able to protect it so I can ensure my future.

F Gohan: Take it from me if you don't protect the world, you won't have a future as a scholar...or a life cause I die.

Faff Gohan: Come on guys, dad can do everything for us.

CG/U/F Gohan: Meeting adjourned.

I think even GT Gohan would be ashamed of faff Gohan.

Yes; gohan should have trained. But look how lucky he is. I mean look at his past mistakes. Future gohan, lost because he didn't want to wait and train to face the androids. In which he fought alone and died. If he had waited and trained. Even if it took a couple years. He would have eventually surpassed them. Or train trunks more and they would have been a better match for the androids.

Cell games gohan. Became too cocky. He decided to torture cell. Which led to his father's death, trunks death, and almost the world's destruction. Only won because of friends help.

Mystic gohan was the same. He undermined Buu and sought to torture him. Which led for Buu to absorb gotenks and eventually gohan. This caused his eventual death and the planet.

GT gohan didn't train as well like gohan. However the creators of Gt didn't understand that the whole not training thing leads to a loss of power. I mean this common sense. You don't train. You don't keep the strength you accuired. Their was no way he kept his power in Gt. Especially when he didn't train like he used too.

RoF gohan had learned from all his past mistakes. Yes he beat cell. But what happened after that? Nothing. He only beat cell with he help of his friends and fathers help. After he comepletely screwed up by not killing cell instantly. He learned that no matter how powerful he becomes he will never ever have that sort of wisdom like his father or Vegeta have. Who from the most part learned from their mistakes. Gohan has had several times to learn to control himself.However he himself realized that he can prob can never conquer this issue of sadisism and over confidence in himself. Usually his father fixes the mess he got himself in. That says a lot cause Goku is sometimes really guilty of over confidence. So why go through all this mess of becoming op. When you know that every time you reach a power greater then your father. You end up making things worse?

[Lunatic Fringe]

What if Freeza didn't take Zarbon and Dodoria with him to Namek?
What if Yamcha never reformed?
What if Goku won the 22nd WMAT?

- Vegeta doesn't gain the boost in strength he gets from Zarbon kicking his ass. But is inconsequential.
- Nothing really changes. Yamcha doesn't contribute much to plot other than getting his ass kicked.
- Nothing changes

Keep in mind that it's Dodoria that goes after Gohan and Krillin after they rescue Dende. I think the only reason Freeza didn't go after them himself is because he had grunts doing it for him. So with all of the other mooks wiped out after the Moori Village Namekians take care of them, that only leaves Freeza left. Should Gohan and Krillin intervene and try to rescue Dende, there's no way that they'd be strong enough or fast enough to escape Freeza should he decide to pursue them. The question is, does he?

I wish I had thought of this before I asked the question but Yamcha saves Oolong, Puar, and Bulma from being crushed by Oozaru Goku.

[Berserker1921]

What if Dragon Ball didn't follow the multiverse theory, and instead, was just one time line?

Every week these guys would have to fight a new bad guy haha. I mean look at all what happened. If the movies and show some how fit. The heroes would have became a lot stronger through training and zenkai boost. As well would have learned their lessons. So by the time they reached beerus. They might have done a little better.

[dbzfan7]

Yes gohan should have trained. But look how lucky he is. I mean look at his past mistakes. Future gohan, lost because he didn't want to wait and train to face the androids. In which he fought alone and died. If he had waited and trained. Even if it took a couple years. He would have eventually surpassed them. Or train trunks more and they would have been a better match.

Cell games gohan. Became too cocky. He decided to torture cell. Which led to his father's death, trunks death, and almost the world's destruction.

Mystic gohan was the same. He undermined Buu and sought to torture him. Which led for Buu to absorb gotenks and eventually gohan. This caused his eventual death and the planet.

GT gohan didn't train as well like gohan. However the creators of Gt didn't understand that the whole not training leads to a weaker power. I mean this common sense. You don't train you don't keep the skills and the strength yoh accuired. Their was no way he kept his power in gt.

RoF gohan had learned from all his past mistakes. Yes he beat cell. After what? His friends and fathers help after he comepletely screwed up. He learned that no matter how powerful he becomes he will never ever have that wisdom like his father or Vegeta. Who from the most part learn from their mistakes. Gohan has had several times to learn this. However he himself realized that he can prob never conquer this issue of sadisism and over confidence in himself. Usually his father solves his problems anyways. So why go through all this mess and possibly make things worse?

Future Gohan didn't want to lose more people as the Dragon Balls were dead so there's nothing to bring people back no more. I guess it's the same with the namek balls or else those coulda been used. You can't really save anything if it's all gone. He was brash but that kind of mindset is sound.

Cell Games Gohan was a step in learning to control his immense power. Usually his power comes in bursts and leaves. Now it's in full throttle. Also Goku did the same thing and Freeza blew up Namek because Goku didn't just kill the bastard right away when Super Saiyan made him enraged.

Ultimate Gohan didn't torture Boo honestly. The fight was so short that Boo escaped quickly and then came back with his plan. Gohan's fault was not stopping Gotenks from being formed and just fighting on his own. Though really the entire Boo conflict is Goku and Vegeta's fault to begin with.

GT Gohan did train according to the guidebooks. They say he trained and kept up his power. It's also argued that he could be stronger...but that's mainly cause GT scaling is all over the damn place.

Faff learned nothing. Instead of seeking to protect his own future, and his own daughters future, he lets his dad do it. The problem with Gohan is that the writers don't care to fully develop him and complete his arc. Instead we have him giving up. What you've said here is basically him going "I'm a screw up so fuck it I'm not trying anymore." What a lovely way to end a characters development.

I think even GT Gohan would be ashamed of faff Gohan.

GT Gohan actually trained. He's just unfortunately like everyone else shunned under Goku Time.