Why does Vegeta keep calling Goku, Kakarot

[Herms]

I'm more puzzled as to why certain fans actually call him Kakarot.

"Any fan who calls Goku 'Kakarot' clearly thinks that they're Vegeta"-Mike, on some really old podcast episode.

[irreality]

Maybe he thinks that if he calls Goku by his true name he will have power over him.

[Captain Strawberry]

*Nods* Yup, there used to be users on here who would call Gokû "Kakarot". I don't remember any of their handles, but I feel there were at least 3 different users who did that at some point.

Son - Piccolo until they become friendlier

I could be wrong, but I feel like he uses that more after they become friendlier. Prior to that, he usually seemed to use the full "Son Goku" when referring to him. Oh, and don't forget Tenshinhan uses Son on occasion too!

That sounds right; I think I was just confusing remembering when I'd heard Piccolo call him by his family name.

I saw it too. He calls him by his first name, I think it's because he fused with his other half.

[Kamiccolo9]

I'm more puzzled as to why certain fans actually call him Kakarot.

"Any fan who calls Goku 'Kakarot' clearly thinks that they're Vegeta"-Mike, on some really old podcast episode.

It's not nearly as annoying as the people who insist on calling 17 and 18 "Lapis and Lazuli."

[Herms]

Maybe he thinks that if he calls Goku by his true name he will have power over him.

Turns out Vegeta's really into witchcraft.

It's not nearly as annoying as the people who insist on calling 17 and 18 "Lapis and Lazuli."

We'll have to agree to disagree there.

On that note, if Toriyama ever gives us a proper name for the child of Katatz/"the nameless Namek", I'm totally going to start using it all the time.

[fadeddreams5]

I'm more puzzled as to why certain fans actually call him Kakarot.

"Any fan who calls Goku 'Kakarot' clearly thinks that they're Vegeta"-Mike, on some really old podcast episode.

It's not nearly as annoying as the people who insist on calling 17 and 18 "Lapis and Lazuli."

I thought I was the only one annoyed by that.

[dario03]

It's not nearly as annoying as the people who insist on calling 17 and 18 "Lapis and Lazuli."

We'll have to agree to disagree there.

On that note, if Toriyama ever gives us a proper name for the child of Katatz/"the nameless Namek", I'm totally going to start using it all the time.

But use it for who? Kami? King Piccolo? Piccolo? The original form of them that came to Earth but we don't really ever see? Kamiccolo? Is Kamiccolo that guy or a whole new being? Maybe come up with a anagram of the child of Katatz's actual name and use that for Kamiccolo.... Theres just so many ways it could go! What do we do!?!

[soulnova]

It's weird, but when talking about Goku from Vegeta's perspective I sometimes automatically use Kakarotto. Also when talking about Saiyan things in the past, I use Kakarotto as he wasn't named "Goku" yet. It might not have much logic but *shrugs*.

Gokû is Vegeta's only everyday reminder of his people. Vegeta calls him who he sees, or wants to see him as.

I agree with this. He might have not done it at first because he regarded humans as nothing but trash and using the human name would feel like a mockery for a Saiyan, but now.... For what it is, calling him by his Saiyan name is the only way he can still honor their kin.

[Herms]

But use it for who? Kami? King Piccolo? Piccolo? The original form of them that came to Earth but we don't really ever see? Kamiccolo? Is Kamiccolo that guy or a whole new being? Maybe come up with a anagram of the child of Katatz's actual name and use that for Kamiccolo.... Theres just so many ways it could go! What do we do!?!

Piccolo's name is Piccolo. The God of Earth is the character we're clearly lacking a proper name for. We're stuck with his title, which makes things extra annoying once Dende takes over the role.

Knowing the personal names for the different Kaioshins might be slightly helpful too in that regard.

[ABED]

Was anyone else surprised that "child of Katas (spelling?)" wasn't a dubism?

[MCDaveG]

Because it sounds offensive.... Really, what father names his kid Kakarot?
''Oh, this weak asshole, let's call him Kakarotto for what he is!''

On topic note, don't know how was it in France, but in Polish dub, they've got that idea by the sound of the name as well and Vegeta was calling Goku ''clown'' which would be more accurately translated into english meaning as a fool.

[dario03]

But use it for who? Kami? King Piccolo? Piccolo? The original form of them that came to Earth but we don't really ever see? Kamiccolo? Is Kamiccolo that guy or a whole new being? Maybe come up with a anagram of the child of Katatz's actual name and use that for Kamiccolo.... Theres just so many ways it could go! What do we do!?!

Piccolo's name is Piccolo. The God of Earth is the character we're clearly lacking a proper name for. We're stuck with his title, which makes things extra annoying once Dende takes over the role.

Knowing the personal names for the different Kaioshins might be slightly helpful too in that regard.

But he is only half of the child of katatz. Maybe when/if we find out his name we can call him by half of the name...But which half!?

[irreality]

But he is only half of the child of katatz. Maybe when/if we find out his name we can call him by half of the name...But which half!?

Well, it is like Original Buu getting rid of Skinny Evil Buu and still being Mr. Buu. The Evil emmanation of the child of katatz is Piccolo Sr. The main, good part is the one we have no name for.

[Herms]

Was anyone else surprised that "child of Katas (spelling?)" wasn't a dubism?

カタッツ=Katattsu, or Katatz. It's a pun on katatsu-muri, one of the many Japanese words for snail (and so not a name the Funi dub was likely to cook up on their own). Elder Muri gets his name from the same word.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

On that note, if Toriyama ever gives us a proper name for the child of Katatz/"the nameless Namek", I'm totally going to start using it all the time.

Ιt's not the same. Katatz's son doesn't have a proper name to begin with, he just has a description, while Mr. Satan (instead of Mark), #17 (instead of Lapis), #18 (instead of Lazuli), and Goku (instead of Kakarotto) are proper names.

[irreality]

Ιt's not the same. Katatz's son doesn't have a proper name to begin with, he just has a description, while Mr. Satan (instead of Mark), #17 (instead of Lapis), #18 (instead of Lazuli), and Goku (instead of Kakarotto) are proper names.

Well, #18 and #17 are used as proper names, but they are more like "designations" like Seven of Nine, that were adopted as names because they forgot their original human names when they became cyborgs (just like she did).

Mr. Satan always struck me as his wrestling stage name.

[ABED]

Was anyone else surprised that "child of Katas (spelling?)" wasn't a dubism?

<br abp="748">カタッツ=Katattsu, or Katatz. It's a pun on katatsu-muri, one of the many Japanese words for snail (and so not a name the Funi dub was likely to cook up on their own). Elder Muri gets his name from the same word.

Anyone not familiar with Japanese?

[nickzambuto]

Was anyone else surprised that "child of Katas (spelling?)" wasn't a dubism?

<br abp="748">カタッツ=Katattsu, or Katatz. It's a pun on katatsu-muri, one of the many Japanese words for snail (and so not a name the Funi dub was likely to cook up on their own). Elder Muri gets his name from the same word.

Anyone not familiar with Japanese?

This website makes me feel like an ignorant fool for not being fluent in Japanese =p

[Herms]

Mr. Satan always struck me as his wrestling stage name.

One factor is that for an English-speaking audience, the weirdness of the character going by "Mister" is automatically lost. For a Japanese audience, "Mister" is a foreign word that they're probably pretty familiar with, but someone calling themselves Mister something-or-other is marking themselves as foreign and/or eccentric. It fits in perfectly with the eccentricity of this guy calling himself "Satan". For an English audience though, "Satan" is the weird bit, and him tacking "Satan" on to the front is...well, still a bit weird, but weird precisely because it's contrasting a normal word like "Mister" against "Satan".

I think it's a bit like if in an English language show, a wrestler showed up called "Señor Diablo". Most viewers would probably take it for granted that it's just a stage name, rather than think this was a Hispanic gentleman whose surname happened to be "Diablo".

Anyone not familiar with Japanese?

This website makes me feel like an ignorant fool for not being fluent in Japanese =p

Sorry, just trying to help.

[Man-Child]

Because he's secretly related to Broly.