The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:13 pm

LonelyShadow wrote:Super Android 13 vs Semi-Perfect Cell.
Semi Perfect Cell turns the Android into scrap metal

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:19 pm

Yamcha (DBS) vs. Boohan
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:41 pm

Yamcha, because I'm pretty sure that absorbing Gohan would just make Buu faaaar weaker.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:58 pm

LonelyShadow wrote:
Super Android 13 vs Semi-Perfect Cell.
Super 13 wasn't really that much stronger than android arc SSJ Goku (given that Goku surpassed him with a less-than-Namek level Genkidama and I think maybe some energy from his half-dead friends); Semi-Perfect Cell was way, way, way beyond that, and should obliterate 13 here.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yamcha (DBS) vs. Boohan
I feel like this is a trick question of some sort. Jokes about Gohan's performance recently aside, is there a reason why Yamcha wouldn't die horribly here?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LonelyShadow » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:00 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yamcha (DBS) vs. Boohan
(Z) Buuhan is stronger than Yamcha, but in his Super incarnation things go a little bit different, this is how I see it:

Buuhan > Buutenks > The spectator that appeared in almost every tournament > Super Buu > Yamcha (Ultimate) ≥ Buuhan (DBS) > Majin Buu.

I'll give this to Super Baby Vegeta 2, only due to "GT hacks".

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:05 pm

Yamcha was the first to do damage to Beerus.
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fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:08 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yamcha was the to do damage to Beerus.
Oh, that XD Forgot. (And he did it so casually too, even moreso than Whis.)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LonelyShadow » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:18 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yamcha was the first to do damage to Beerus.
Impressive, but Beerus was off-guard. Even Dr. Brief could inflict some damage on the deity if he found him in that state.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:43 pm

LonelyShadow wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yamcha was the first to do damage to Beerus.
Impressive, but Beerus was off-guard. Even Dr. Brief could inflict some damage on the deity if he found him in that state.
Perhaps, but didn't Beerus' alarm bombs catch him off-guard? He didn't take damage from those. Evidently his fur provides a form of natural armour.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:14 pm

Post Yardrat Super Saiyan 4 Goku VS 100% Perfect Cell (SSJ4 multiplier is a x1000 base for this one).
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Darkron2151 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:30 pm

Here's some:
  • Super Saiyans Goku (Healthy) and Vegeta (Android Saga) vs. Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town)

    Base Vegeta (RoF) vs. Super Buu, then Buutenks, then Buuhan (Gauntlet)

    Dabura vs. Pikkon

    Super Saiyan 2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Bojack (Transformed)

    Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Buu Arc) vs. 100% True Form Freeza (RoF)
ekrolo2 wrote:Post Yardrat Super Saiyan 4 Goku VS 100% Perfect Cell (SSJ4 multiplier is a x1000 base for this one).
Close fight, as IMO they're the same strength. But Cell can probably outlast him due to regeneration, so I give it to him after a long fight. But if Goku can catch him with an IT Kamehameha, it might turn out differently.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:11 pm

Darkron2151 wrote:Here's some:
  • Super Saiyans Goku (Healthy) and Vegeta (Android Saga) vs. Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town)

    Base Vegeta (RoF) vs. Super Buu, then Buutenks, then Buuhan (Gauntlet)

    Dabura vs. Paikuhan

    Super Saiyan 2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Bojack (Transformed)

    Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Buu Arc) vs. 100% True Form Freeza (RoF)
- Poor Cell gets crushed like the bug he is. One SSJ at that stage would be enough. Two is overkill.
- Vegeta clears the gauntlet in seconds
- Pikkon one shots. Pikkon took down SPC with one hit. Dabra's got no chance.
- Goku does to Bojack what SSJ2 Gohan did to him.
- Freeza stomps Goku.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:50 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yamcha (DBS) vs. Boohan
Regular logic, Boohan stomps so hard that he could sleep, and Yamcha wouldn't effect him in the least.

Neo age logic, Boo absorbed Gohan so he's gonna fail horribly somehow. Yamcha hasn't embarrassed himself in years and so it seems he passed his essence to Gohan. With Gohan taking the mantle of getting Yamcha'd...now called Gohan'd...Yamcha wins because his opponent will be incompetent.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LonelyShadow » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:04 pm

Captain Space wrote:Perhaps, but didn't Beerus' alarm bombs catch him off-guard? He didn't take damage from those. Evidently his fur provides a form of natural armour.
Indeed, Beerus was unfazed by his own "Good morning" bombs, even if he was just waking up, there are many possible explanations for this, one of them is that the bombs were used more as a sound alarm than an actual attack. There's a small chance that: waking up ≠ off-guard, just maybe. For the power levels, I personally have them like this:

Beerus' bomb explosion: 10
Dr. Brief with cigarette (Happy weed mode, surpressed): 7
Dr Brief no cigarette (Full-power, angry): 25
Yamcha (DBS): 685
Gohan (DBS, "relaxed" state): 1
Gohan (DBS, Ultimate): 2
The Sushi Master: 4
Darkron2151 wrote:Here's some:
  • Super Saiyans Goku (Healthy) and Vegeta (Android Saga) vs. Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town)

    Base Vegeta (RoF) vs. Super Buu, then Buutenks, then Buuhan (Gauntlet)

    Dabura vs. Paikuhan

    Super Saiyan 2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Bojack (Transformed)

    Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Buu Arc) vs. 100% True Form Freeza (RoF)
- Cell is overwhelmed, but he has a good chance against one of them if they have no knowledge of his abilities.
- "You turned my Bulma into chocolate? Now I'll turn you into ashes." - Vegeta, close friend of Krillin.
- Close match, I think that Paikuhan improved considerably during the time Goku was in the afterlife, I'll go with him because of his techniques.
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- SSJ4 Goku's pinky-red fur finally turns completely red with his own blood before he becomes a pile of ashes.

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Post by supercat » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:44 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Post Yardrat Super Saiyan 4 Goku VS 100% Perfect Cell (SSJ4 multiplier is a x1000 base for this one).
With a 1000x multiplier, things may actually go in Goku's favor.
Darkron2151 wrote:Here's some:
  • Super Saiyans Goku (Healthy) and Vegeta (Android Saga) vs. Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town)

    Base Vegeta (RoF) vs. Super Buu, then Buutenks, then Buuhan (Gauntlet)

    Dabura vs. Paikuhan

    Super Saiyan 2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Bojack (Transformed)

    Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Buu Arc) vs. 100% True Form Freeza (RoF)
ekrolo2 wrote:Post Yardrat Super Saiyan 4 Goku VS 100% Perfect Cell (SSJ4 multiplier is a x1000 base for this one).
Close fight, as IMO they're the same strength. But Cell can probably outlast him due to regeneration, so I give it to him after a long fight. But if Goku can catch him with an IT Kamehameha, it might turn out differently.
-The Super Saiyan duo would annihilate Cell with little to no difficulty.

-Vegeta one-shots the trio of Majins without batting an eye.

-Really depends on where you place Dabura. If we subscribe to the belief that Babidi's right hand was facing off against Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, then I could honestly see this fight going either way, with Paikuhan holding a slight advantage. On the contrary, if Gohan was only MSSJ against Dabura, then Paikuhan wins with the utmost ease.

-SSJ2 Goku shouldn't be that much weaker than a Cell-busting Gohan, so Bojack's chances of winning wouldn't be much better.

-No version of SSJ4 (except Gogeta) could handle Final Form Frieza (FnF). The emperor of evil effortlessly one-shots Goku along with anything he has to dish out in GT. Heck, even Frieza's second form (FnF) could probably pull it off seeing as how an SSJ4 from the Buu arc would presumably be leagues below SSJ Vegetto (Buu arc).

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Post by Berserker1921 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:03 am

Ssjgodssj kid Goku (after battle with evil piccolo) goes through the gauntlet where does he stop at

Ginyu
Frieza
Cell
Broly
Kid Buu

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Post by Sayo-chan » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:54 am

Darkron2151 wrote:Here's some:
  • Super Saiyans Goku (Healthy) and Vegeta (Android Saga) vs. Imperfect Cell (Ginger Town)

    Base Vegeta (RoF) vs. Super Buu, then Buutenks, then Buuhan (Gauntlet)

    Dabura vs. Paikuhan

    Super Saiyan 2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Bojack (Transformed)

    Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Buu Arc) vs. 100% True Form Freeza (RoF)
Imperfect Cell is overwhelmed power wise. However, he has the edge over all his later incarnations. Perfect Cell is smarter, but blinded by arrogance when he's overwhelmed. Imperfect Cell knows he's flawed and doesn't resort to Vegeta or Freeza tactics. Vegeta might get overconfident and blow everything into pieces, allowing Cell to suppress his battle power and leave, effectively convincing the two he's dead. It's also possible he could separate the two and capture one, absorbing part of them. If all else fails, he'd just do what he did when Piccolo was laying into him.

The first Boo stomps him effortlessly. I don't believe the base Saiyans are all that strong.

This one's difficult. I don't believe Paikuhan beat Super Perfect Cell. It looks to be that he cold-clocked a suppressed Cell. That said, it's hard to say. I place Dabra around full-power Perfect Cell. I sincerely doubt Goku improved significantly during those couple of months being dead. I'd say they're roughly equal, maybe with Paikuhan having the edge, making Dabra vastly stronger. Combined with his spit and other magical abilities, Paikuhan has no chance whatsoever.

Goku's a couple steps behind Gohan, so it's possible they'd be equal, but I still feel like Goku easily takes this.

Freeza takes this. Now, if it were GT SSJ4 Goku, Freeza gets one-shotted.
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Post by AvatarReiko » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:35 am

SSGSS Goku & SSGSSSVegeta vs Golden Frieza( Full Power) - No power drain

Off guard/distracted Goku runs the weapons gauntlet

1.) 9mm pistol
2.) AK 47
3.) M2 Browning
4.) GAU-8 Avenger(Gatling gun)
5.) A tank shell
6.) An RPG.
7.) Tomahawk Cruise missle
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Post by Gonstead » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:03 am

Perfect Cell (With Goku's Heart Virus) vs Post-ROSAT Piccolo.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sayo-chan » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:04 am

Gonstead wrote:Perfect Cell (With Goku's Heart Virus) vs Post-ROSAT Piccolo.
He could just rip his heart out and grow a new one. That is, if viruses can even affect Cell. Regardless, Piccolo gets one-shotted.
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