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-Yamcha stomps...?ahill1 wrote:Yamcha(21st Budokai) vs Goku(pilaf saga)
Chaozu(22nd Budokai) vs Goku(Baba tournament)
Chi Chi(23rd Budokai) vs King Piccolo(old)
Kuririn(arrival of Raditz) vs King Piccolo (young)
Goku(arrival of Raditz) + Kuririn(arrival of Raditz) + Roshi(arrival of Raditz) vs Raditz
Kuririn(vs ginyu-goku) vs Vegeta(vs cui)
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
I have:Bullza wrote:Golden Freeza vs Golden Oozaru Baby.
Adding a bunch of 1s or lower to a 1,000 won't help it overcome a 1,500.Angelus wrote:Full Power and Furious Mystic Gohan VS Super Buu (Absorbs list below:) -- No stone spit, any more absorbing, blowing up planets, candy beam, Tribeams, Kienzans, Solar FlaresSpoiler:
Shura the really strong demon guy from Dragon Ball episode 81.Captain Space wrote:Shura? Like...the Gold Saint? Or Yomi's son from Yu Yu Hakusho? Probably neither of those. I dunno.
I put Mira between SSJ3 Goku and Super Buu (since he's placed between Fat Buu and Super Buu in the escalating threat scale, as it were, in terms of when you fight him), so I say Super Buu wins pretty easily.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Mira VS Super Buu
In Xenoverse, Mira seemed confident that he could take on both SSJ3 Goku and Majin Buu (pre splitting). Do you think their combined power would be equal to Super Buu and if so, do you think Mira could face if not defeat him?
My instinct says even the SSGSS boost isn't enough to bring you up that much; Cell wins.Berserker1921 wrote:
Now ssjgodssj Goku (raditz saga) vs perfect cell? Who wins?
I'll say Freeza, for my previous reasoning on god stuff vs GT stuff.Bullza wrote:Golden Freeza vs Golden Oozaru Baby.
-I give it about 50/50; maybe tilted slightly more in Freeza's favour since they'll lose a bit of power after a few minutes.Angelus wrote:What's up guys? Long time. Here's some versus!
SSJG Goku and Vegeta (BoG) VS Golden Freeza (RoF)
Kid Buu* (absorbed First Form Hirudegarn) VS Mystic Gohan (Z/Pre-BoG/RoF) -- No candy beam, any more absorbing, blowing up of planets
*Given that you believe KId Buu is weaker than Super Buu*
Full Power and Furious Mystic Gohan VS Super Buu* (Absorbs list below:) -- No stone spit, any more absorbing, blowing up planets, candy beam, Tribeams, Kienzans, Solar Flares
*Given that you believe that Kid Buu is weaker than Super Buu*Spoiler:
Oh, okay, thanks.Sayo-chan wrote:Shura the really strong guy demon guy from Dragon Ball episode 81.Captain Space wrote:Shura? Like...the Gold Saint? Or Yomi's son from Yu Yu Hakusho? Probably neither of those. I dunno.
If GTs separate from Super/the movies then Freeza wins, if this is a hypothetical scenario in which they all exist in the same continuity, Baby murders Freeza no problem.Bullza wrote:Golden Freeza vs Golden Oozaru Baby.
If Goku said that Super Buu was too strong for him and Vegeta, that means that Super Buu is in another league compared to the "SSJ3 Tier", I think that even with Majin Buu the result wouldn't be so different. Mira (XV) was confident about facing the Chubby and L'Oréal Guy, I guess that Super Buu would react the same way.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Mira VS Super Buu
In Xenoverse, Mira seemed confident that he could take on both SSJ3 Goku and Majin Buu (pre splitting). Do you think their combined power would be equal to Super Buu and if so, do you think Mira could face if not defeat him?
Goku's PL was 416 during that saga. Unless the SSG/SSGSS transformation multiplies the user's power by many millions, Cell should stomp Goku like a Yamcha, besides, Goku wasn't as experienced during that time compared to the time he was in the Cell Games, even if he managed to get on a par with the Cell, he'll lose for the lack of skills.Berserker1921 wrote:Now ssjgodssj Goku (raditz saga) vs perfect cell? Who wins?
I believe that Freeza knows how to stop the Oozaru transformation, given that and the possibility that he might be at many levels above him, Baby's death it's a horrible act of witness.Bullza wrote:Golden Freeza vs Golden Oozaru Baby.
That's a tricky one. Would Piccolo suffer a strain from it? Would it be like when Goku fought Freeza where he uses it in lightning fast bursts? Or would it be consistent? I don't believe Vegeta to be too far ahead of Piccolo during the Cell Games. During the seven year gap, I would imagine his gains weren't all that incredible, especially seeing he couldn't close the gap on Goku or Gohan. We know SSJ2 makes him 2 times stronger, plus the potential or whatever he had being brought out. I somehow doubt Majin Vegeta is over 10 times stronger than him, so I'd say Piccolo should have the edge in power. Vegeta's far more ruthless and relentless though, so who wins really depends on how the Kaio-ken mechanics are being employed.ekrolo2 wrote:Buu Saga Kamicolo with Kaio-Ken (max 10) VS Majin Vegeta SSJ2
It would be lightning fast bursts with him potentially going all out with an attack if fatigue starts to set in.Sayo-chan wrote:That's a tricky one. Would Piccolo suffer a strain from it? Would it be like when Goku fought Freeza where he uses it in lightning fast bursts? Or would it be consistent? I don't believe Vegeta to be too far ahead of Piccolo during the Cell Games. During the seven year gap, I would imagine his gains weren't all that incredible, especially seeing he couldn't close the gap on Goku or Gohan. We know SSJ2 makes him 2 times stronger, plus the potential or whatever he had being brought out. I somehow doubt Majin Vegeta is over 10 times stronger than him, so I'd say Piccolo should have the edge in power. Vegeta's far more ruthless and relentless though, so who wins really depends on how the Kaio-ken mechanics are being employed.ekrolo2 wrote:Buu Saga Kamicolo with Kaio-Ken (max 10) VS Majin Vegeta SSJ2
I think potentially Piccolo could severely injured Vegeta in a similar way that he did to Cell with his Final Flash, or as Cell did to Gohan before the beam struggle. If his power as is isn't enough to overwhelm him, then an attack that cuts his power back could potentially knock him down so much that Piccolo may not even need the Kaio-ken.ekrolo2 wrote:It would be lightning fast bursts with him potentially going all out with an attack if fatigue starts to set in.Sayo-chan wrote:That's a tricky one. Would Piccolo suffer a strain from it? Would it be like when Goku fought Freeza where he uses it in lightning fast bursts? Or would it be consistent? I don't believe Vegeta to be too far ahead of Piccolo during the Cell Games. During the seven year gap, I would imagine his gains weren't all that incredible, especially seeing he couldn't close the gap on Goku or Gohan. We know SSJ2 makes him 2 times stronger, plus the potential or whatever he had being brought out. I somehow doubt Majin Vegeta is over 10 times stronger than him, so I'd say Piccolo should have the edge in power. Vegeta's far more ruthless and relentless though, so who wins really depends on how the Kaio-ken mechanics are being employed.ekrolo2 wrote:Buu Saga Kamicolo with Kaio-Ken (max 10) VS Majin Vegeta SSJ2
If Piccolo was 50% FPSSJ Goku during the Cell Games and he improved after many years, let's say to a 75% - 80% what Goku was and get's that devastating technique something good could happen to him. Here's how I personally have them:ekrolo2 wrote:Buu Saga Kamicolo with Kaio-Ken (max 10) VS Majin Vegeta SSJ2
I don't think Goku (and by extension, Majin Vegeta) improved that much in those 7 years.ekrolo2 wrote:Buu Saga Kamicolo with Kaio-Ken (max 10) VS Majin Vegeta SSJ2
Yamcha stomps.ahill1 wrote:Yamcha(21st Budokai) vs Goku(pilaf saga)
Chaozu(22nd Budokai) vs Goku(Baba tournament)
Chi Chi(23rd Budokai) vs King Piccolo(old)
Kuririn(arrival of Raditz) vs King Piccolo (young)
Goku(arrival of Raditz) + Kuririn(arrival of Raditz) + Roshi(arrival of Raditz) vs Raditz
Kuririn(vs ginyu-goku) vs Vegeta(vs cui)
I thought Roshi was stronger than Raditz, according to ToriyamaZombie wrote:Yamcha stomps.ahill1 wrote:Yamcha(21st Budokai) vs Goku(pilaf saga)
Chaozu(22nd Budokai) vs Goku(Baba tournament)
Chi Chi(23rd Budokai) vs King Piccolo(old)
Kuririn(arrival of Raditz) vs King Piccolo (young)
Goku(arrival of Raditz) + Kuririn(arrival of Raditz) + Roshi(arrival of Raditz) vs Raditz
Kuririn(vs ginyu-goku) vs Vegeta(vs cui)
Chaoz wins with difficulty.
Kuririn gets stomped hard.
Raditz wins.
Kuririn has the power advantage. He wins after a long and hard fight.
