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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:23 pm

ABED wrote:I don't know if this affects anyone's opinion but he got so many roles because the talent pool was so limited at the time and he had a distinctly deep voice.
Yeah as far as I know, FUNi only had like 8 voice actors when they first started season 3.
Sean Schemmel, Chris Sabat, Tiffany Vollmer, Linda Young, Sonny Strait, Stephanie Nadolny, Dale Kelly, and the voice actress who played Dende, but I forget her name.
Ree wrote:Yeah but some of them bash the BG actor for things that apply to Christopher Sabat.
Have you heard Chris Sabat's Recomme, Guru, Zarbon, Nappa? I feel that the BG actor would be bashed for putting out those performances.
Chris Sabat may've had a lot of roles, but at least he made them somewhat different and distinguishable from each other. The BG voice sounded literally exactly the same across his multiple roles. Also it should note that Sabat only voiced Nappa in one scene, and possibly Budokai 1 too. Other than that, Nappa was voiced by Phil Parsons.

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Post by Ree » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:11 pm

Paul Bandey's Yajirobe, narrator, Freeza and Mr. Satan were all distinguishable from each other for example.
Some of Chris Sabat's roles sound alike and they sound worse than anyone from the BG cast too.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:24 pm

Ree wrote:Paul Bandey's Yajirobe, narrator, Freeza and Mr. Satan were all distinguishable from each other for example.
Some of Chris Sabat's roles sound alike and they sound worse than anyone from the BG cast too.
I respectfully disagree, but to each their own.

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Post by Fionordequester » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:11 am

Here's my reason for liking Chris Sabat, but not the BG actor...

1) Chris Sabat does a good job of giving his characters distinct, memorable voices. His Piccolo is more or less his natural voice, Vegeta is higher pitched and slightly raspier, Yamcha is higher pitched than even that, he's given up his Jeice voice, Guru is extremely deep and has a very resonant voice that's pleasing to the ear...and etc. The BG actor, on the other hand, sounds different in...some of his roles. Yajirobe and pretty high pitched compared to the others, and his Frieza actually sounds really deep compared to the other ones. Other than though? They all pretty much sound the same to me.

2) Chris Sabat...actually gave good performances, while the BG actor has trouble even pronouncing his sentences clearly. Granted, that's not really HIS fault so much as it's the fault of incompetent dubbing, with way too many ridiculously long, run-on sentences...but even still, his acting is still extremely rushed, unnatural, and stilted, just like everyone else in the Big Green dub. He always sounds like he's going to run out of breath at any minute, he always talks like he's in a hurry, and he always emphasizes his lines in really odd ways...his acting is just not very good. Again, that's not his fault, but that doesn't change the fact that his performances weren't any good.

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Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:16 am

1.he does have different voices but if I read your post and I never heard him before I would be like "anyone can do that, big deal" Guru does not sound old or like a Namekian to me only deep voiced.

2.I get that and Chris doesn't have those problems but I liked some of his work, his Turles was also good, almost as good as Pioneer Turles (David Kaye?)
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Ree wrote:1.he does have different voices but if I read your post and I never heard him before I would be like "anyone can do that, big deal" Guru does not sound old or like a Namekian to me only deep voiced.

2.I get that and Chris doesn't have those problems but I liked some of his work, his Tullece was also good, almost as good as Pioneer Tullece (David Kaye?)
1) What does a Namekian sound like? Or what is one 'supposed' to sound like? That part of your comment makes no sense.

2) Chris Sabat didn't voice Turles, idk where you got that from

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Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:07 am

1. A Namekian should sound out of this world and not human.

2. i was talking about Paul Bandey but I realize I was not clear. Funimation Turles sucked to me.
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Post by UltimateHammerBro » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:48 pm

Ree wrote:1. A Namekian should sound out of this world and not human.
As far as I know, the Namekian characters have been voiced, in every single language, by human voice actors.
Jokes aside, I don't really see what point you're trying to make, but it really comes across as trying to force everyone to agree with you and praise an actor for a sub-par work not many people like. Having different opinions is not hypocrisy.
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Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:03 pm

If voicing a non-human they should at least sound it. you can watch "The Eldest Namek" for a GOOD Guru.

I dont expect everyone to agree with me.
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Ree wrote:If voicing a non-human they should at least sound it. you can watch "The Eldest Namek" for a GOOD Guru.

I dont expect everyone to agree with me.
So Goku, Vegeta, Recoome, Jeice, Zarbon, etc., should all sound "non-human?"

The fact of the matter is, that while Sabat got much better at the job, the Big Green guy either didn't get a chance to, or he just sucked in general. It's not hypocracy to say one actor performed the job better than another.
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Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:35 pm

those are human-like and human-shape characters, Guru is not.
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Ree wrote:If voicing a non-human they should at least sound it. you can watch "The Eldest Namek" for a GOOD Guru.

I dont expect everyone to agree with me.
You don't watch a lot of cartoons or sci-fi do you? Also play Mass Effect. Aliens there don't sound too different from the humans.

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Ree wrote:those are human-like and human-shape characters, Guru is not.
I believe he is actually shaped like a human, and also like a human, but that's not the point. The point is, as Kamiccolo said,

"The fact of the matter is, that while Sabat got much better at the job, the Big Green guy either didn't get a chance to, or he just sucked in general. It's not hypocracy to say one actor performed the job better than another."

EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, do you think fans are being TOO insulting towards the guy? By calling him "Old B*****d"? IF that's the case, I'm fairly certain that they're not really meaning it like he's an awful person who deserves to be mocked or anything. I mean, it's far too vulgar a term, it's thoughtless, and it's not exactly a mature nickname to give someone, but, I don't think they really mean anything by it. They're insulting the performance, not the actor himself...Or at least, I hope they are :? ?
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Post by Ree » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:21 pm

You don't watch a lot of cartoons or sci-fi do you? Also play Mass Effect. Aliens there don't sound too different from the humans.

I watch a lot of them actually. animals given human like traits like Regular Show/Adventure time animals, Sonic characters and many Disney animals are given human like voices but most others sound more like non humans.

EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, do you think fans are being TOO insulting towards the guy? By calling him "Old B*****d"? IF that's the case, I'm fairly certain that they're not really meaning it like he's an awful person who deserves to be mocked or anything. I mean, it's far too vulgar a term, it's thoughtless, and it's not exactly a mature nickname to give someone, but, I don't think they really mean anything by it. They're insulting the performance, not the actor himself...Or at least, I hope they are :? ?

maybe some people don't mean to be insulting but the fact is it IS demeaning and it IS degrading.
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ABED wrote:I don't know if this affects anyone's opinion but he got so many roles because the talent pool was so limited at the time and he had a distinctly deep voice.
Yeah as far as I know, FUNi only had like 8 voice actors when they first started season 3.
Sean Schemmel, Chris Sabat, Tiffany Vollmer, Linda Young, Sonny Strait, Stephanie Nadolny, Dale Kelly, and the voice actress who played Dende, but I forget her name.
Ree wrote:Yeah but some of them bash the BG actor for things that apply to Christopher Sabat.
Have you heard Chris Sabat's Recomme, Guru, Zarbon, Nappa? I feel that the BG actor would be bashed for putting out those performances.
Chris Sabat may've had a lot of roles, but at least he made them somewhat different and distinguishable from each other. The BG voice sounded literally exactly the same across his multiple roles. Also it should note that Sabat only voiced Nappa in one scene, and possibly Budokai 1 too. Other than that, Nappa was voiced by Phil Parsons.
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ABED wrote:I don't know if this affects anyone's opinion but he got so many roles because the talent pool was so limited at the time and he had a distinctly deep voice.
Yeah as far as I know, FUNi only had like 8 voice actors when they first started season 3.
Sean Schemmel, Chris Sabat, Tiffany Vollmer, Linda Young, Sonny Strait, Stephanie Nadolny, Dale Kelly, and the voice actress who played Dende, but I forget her name.
Ree wrote:Yeah but some of them bash the BG actor for things that apply to Christopher Sabat.
Have you heard Chris Sabat's Recomme, Guru, Zarbon, Nappa? I feel that the BG actor would be bashed for putting out those performances.
Chris Sabat may've had a lot of roles, but at least he made them somewhat different and distinguishable from each other. The BG voice sounded literally exactly the same across his multiple roles. Also it should note that Sabat only voiced Nappa in one scene, and possibly Budokai 1 too. Other than that, Nappa was voiced by Phil Parsons.
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Damn I knew I was forgetting them...or were they hired a bit later? I don't remember seeing them until late into the Freeza fight. Regardless I missed them.
But why the facepalm for McFarland aka Master Roshi?

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Post by ABED » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:57 pm

His Roshi is fine with the comedy, but it's a terrible voice for delivering drama.

Sabat has had plenty of bad roles, but I don't think his Zarbon is one of them.
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huzaifa_ahmed wrote: Yeah as far as I know, FUNi only had like 8 voice actors when they first started season 3.
Sean Schemmel, Chris Sabat, Tiffany Vollmer, Linda Young, Sonny Strait, Stephanie Nadolny, Dale Kelly, and the voice actress who played Dende, but I forget her name.
Missing Brad Jackson and Monika Antonelli. And facepalm Mike McFarland.
Damn I knew I was forgetting them...or were they hired a bit later? I don't remember seeing them until late into the Freeza fight. Regardless I missed them.
But why the facepalm for McFarland aka Master Roshi?
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That's why. Second only to Christopher Sabat (and more generally Gen Fukunaga) in terms of chronology and importance..

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Post by Ree » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:13 pm

How does his Zarbon not suck?
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Post by ABED » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:26 pm

I figure I don't think it sucks much like you don't think Nadolny sucks. Nothing I could possibly say is going to make you understand how I came to my conclusion.
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