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Most Overrated/Underrated Characters

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:51 pm

Just wantd to start one of these threads for old time's sake...

Overrated

Vegeta - Even though Vegeta's like my favorite character, he gets blowed by fans a little too hard. People act like he was robbed of not receiving every bit of glory when there's reasons for it and downplay Goku on the side.

SSJ2 Gohan - So many praise this Gohan to the ground for being 'badass' so much that it's like they're not really fans of Gohan but what they want him to be.

East Kaioshin - Doesn't deserve any fans.

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Goku - He is by Toei and seemingly by Toriyama nowadays.

Underrated

Krillin - Humans in general are underrated in Dragon Ball (except Bulma, Tenshinhan, and #18) but I give it to my man Krillin. He's always got Goku's back since day one yet people keep mocking him for being "useless" and "dying a lot".

Without him Gohan woulda died....

Dabra - He died way too early and was wasted potential that not enough people caught up on.

Raditz - Same as above

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Chichi - It's a shock Chi-Chi vs. Videl is still a common topic, or people believing she's not even comparable to fighters from the early volumes. She literally gets no respect.

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Broli - Fanboys act like he's greatest thing since the wheel while haters act like he's the worst thing since the holocaust. Both are equally exaggerating if you ask me.
Pan - She's annoying af and is an overall disappointment but having her weaker than or around early Namek tier is a no-no.
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Re: Most Overrated/Underrated Characters

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:33 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Broli - Fanboys act like he's greatest thing since the wheel while haters act like he's the worst thing since the holocaust. Both are equally exaggerating if you ask me.
This so much. The Broly is Maximum fans are really annoying and overbloat him. On the other hand I'm just as annoyed by people who act like he's the shittiest thing since shit.

Overrated

Vegeta
-He's getting so much attention, more than everyone but Goku, and people still are upset? Yeah it kinda sucked in F he didn't get the kill, but he at least gets SSGSS and get's to be back near the top again. During the Boo arc he was constantly surpassed and never caught up. Now he's back up there with Goku. At least he can be useful and capable. Most of the cast can't even be this no more. Also no SSJ3...so what? He's getting a much more powerful form later anyways and would disregard SSJ3 immediately (I mean that mainly before BOG and Super where he got SSJ4, and people still went crazy for SSJ3). I'd like a solo story for him where he gets his own enemy to beat, but he already has it pretty damn well.

Beerus
-Beerus fucking did it. This guy has no business being shoved into backstory he wasn't needed in. No need to explain the self inserts he's in that ruin the history of the series for me.

Goku
-Not by fans, but by the creative team. He's the main character so of course he is entitled to pretty much a lot of focus. Though when Z hit, Goku shared the focus more. It's what allowed, Vegeta, Gohan, Krillin, Piccolo and the others time to move the plot too. Sure it was usually done via Goku is benched, but it allowed other people to be given time to pick up the ball. Goku also wasn't always top dog. Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, Gotenks, etc all at one point or another took turns rising up and becoming the new #1 in the universe. Made things interesting as at one point we have Vegeta be the best. If he fails Goku can't help as he isn't as powerful. Piccolo is the best. He's the only hope for the moment. I miss those days.

Underrated

Muten Roshi
-He can be so much more than a pervert. So much more. All his screen time is doing stupid shit. He's a wise figure and some of his best moments were from his wisdom and leadership. I miss that Roshi. Him being senile all the time is sad.

Piccolo
-He likes to fight and train like Goku and Vegeta do. He's also calm, level headed, and lead the group plenty of times. It sucks he no longer can do anything because he's not a saiyan, nor has access to a Super Namekian Happy Fun Time Circle to be useful again.
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Re: Most Overrated/Underrated Characters

Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:33 am

Broly is the most overrated character in Dragonball. He's just a screaming muscle dude with a boring character, boring design, and a dumb transformation that I don't feel has a place in the series. The hype is NOT real.
Kuririn is the most underrated.People treat him like a failure, but that's what Yamcha's for. Kuririn has been a presence throughout the series and (I would say) is Goku's best friend.

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Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:37 am

dbzfan7 wrote: I'm just as annoyed by people who act like he's the shittiest thing since shit.
But he really is. There's nothing less compelling in all of Dragonball.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:41 am

RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote: I'm just as annoyed by people who act like he's the shittiest thing since shit.
But he really is. There's nothing less compelling in all of Dragonball.
Nah that's Dragon Ball Evolution, Dragon Ball Minus, and Beerus ruining a good history. But hey you're free to have that opinion, I'm just annoyed at all the overly praising and overly bitching on Broly.
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Post by NintendoFan28 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:35 am

Overrated:
Broli: I like Broli somewhat, but his fans annoys the crap out of me.

Perfect Cell: Fans say he is the best villain in DBZ. I have to disagree with this.I found him extremely dull and boring. Freeza and Super Boo were better in my opinion.

Pure Boo: Mostly, because fans say he is the strongest Boo.

Vegito: The same as Broli, I dislike the fans.

Underrated:
Goten & Trunks: Fans say they achieved Super Saiyan too quickly. I agree with this, but still feel like they had a place in the Boo Arc.

Majin Boo: Most fans consider him one of the worst villain in the series, but I thought he was fun and different.

Ledgic: You don't really here many people talking about him, but I feel like he could have been a great ally to Goku and company.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:46 am

Overrated:
1. Broly - The amount of fan wank for this guy is ridiculous and overbearing.
2. Bardock - How many spin offs will this guy get? I understand the importance of the character being Goku's father and all, but there so many other side characters in Dragon Ball who deserve more love than he's getting.
3. Gogeta - There are still some fans who believe Gogeta > Vegetto, which annoys me greatly.

Underrated
1. Piccolo - Poor guy was relegated to sidelines after his clash with #17 and then relegated to nanny after the Cell arc. There were so much more that could have offered to him
2. Krillin - Strongest earthing prior to Oob, and considering he is Goku's best friend, he should have played more relevance in the plot to the very end.
3. Oob - Should have been the main character in GT, as far as I'm concerned. His mishandling in GT was unforgivable.
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Post by Ree » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:01 am

Underrated, Broly, he is NOT the worst villain ever and is one of the better movie villains.
Overrated, Vegeta, people think hes so AMAZING!!! when he's not and he shouldnt be forgiven either.
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Post by Doctor. » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:17 am

Overrated:
1 - Bardock. This character should not be as important as he is, he simply shouldn't. He gets a bunch of spin-offs, he always gets a story arc in video games and he's completely adored by fans. Yet, the entire purpose of his existence was to show that he's simply someone so weak, someone that doesn't have enough power to make a difference, that he was forgotten immediately, that's why Freeza can barely even remember his face (and only because he was reminded of him thanks to Goku) in the Namek arc. Yet, thanks to recent spin-offs and whatnot, he's seen as THE Super Saiyan. I've already ranted enough in this forum (and plenty of people did the same thing as well) as to why everything where Bardock was in, after the original TV special, was trash.

2 - Cell. What's the appeal to this guy? I don't get it. He has traits from all of the people he has cells of with almost no unique characteristics of his own (I'd even say NO characteristics of his own after his goal to become perfect is complete). His aura of mysteriousness and eeriness that he had when he was first introduced completely disappeared when he revealed his identity like 2 chapters later. He was probably the villain who accomplished the least and his abilities are later perfected by Boo (without causing any plot holes like Cell has). I see why he's liked, I like him too, I don't see why he's so popular, to the point where he's even considered to be the best villain the series to some.

3 - Gohan. Specifically his Cell Games incarnation. Even more specifically, right after he turns Super Saiyan 2. This was a tough match between him, Vegeta and Future Trunks for 3rd spot but I think Vegeta and Trunks deserve their praise while this Gohan doesn't. All of the praise Gohan gets is for being "badass" (God I absolutely loathe that word) and then the same people who consider themselves "fans" of the character turn around and bash any other iteration of the character for being too soft or, in their own words, a "pussy". What they don't seem to get is that this particular version of Gohan was out-of-character in purpose, and that the story clearly exemplified that he was being stupid when he was walking around and acting like a "badass". I'm not even that big of a fan of the character (really, I'm not, he's not even in my top 10, maybe not even top 15, favorites) and these claims still annoy me when I see them.

Underrated:
1 - Kuririn. I think this is self-explanatory. Along with Yamcha and Mr. Satan, he's probably the one character that gets the most 'hate' out of the entire cast. Probably by the same people who like the "badass" characters over the well-written ones. Kuririn represents the more humanistic aspect of the series and it's a shame he barely gets any credit by the fandom as a whole.

2 - Majin Boo, Pan, Oob, Dr. Gero, #16, Cold, God, among others. Basically any character that has, or had, huge potential to be useful and/or produce an interesting story thanks to his power, abilities, personality, backstory, impact on the lore or etc. Boo can be an incredibly strong fighter in the future and his recent retcon about his origin can allow to expand upon the lore of the 12 universes and maybe present us with more Majin-like characters in universe 6. Pan and Oob are self-explanatory since they're the "next generation", Pan having the potential of becoming the first female Super Saiyan and Oob being Boo's reincarnation and being the one Goku passed down the torch to. Dr Gero and #16 had the potential to be complex characters and turn the RRA and Cell arcs even more interesting and well-developed if Toriyama had utilized the recent information he told us about. Cold and God had a huge impact on the lore of the series and they certainly could unravel more mysteries about DB's universe if we had learned more about their past. The list goes on and on.

3 - Gotenks. 'Hated' by the fans because he's a child and toys around and seemingly hated by Toei's staff and Toriyama because he's not Goku. He's an interesting and entertaining character, with one of the best fights in the series. He's the only character who actually tries to develop new moves (besides Gotenks, we haven't seen a new move since, what, Vegeta's final flash?) and even if most of them end up failing, they're some of the most unique among the cast. I don't think he gets too much credit.

Both:
1 - Broly, for reasons already explained by others. Haters, like myself, should turn the hate down a notch (I won't) and fans should really not say the character is any good, in any way.

2 - Goku. Overrated because Toriyama and the Toei staff can't think of a way of defeating a villain without Goku and underrated because, as a Dragon Ball fan, I cannot tell you the amount of times I have heard this same line over and over again being repeated by people who don't know a damn thing about anything: "Goku has no depth" (Yes, it grinds my gears).

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Post by Ree » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:21 am

1 - Broly, for reasons already explained by others. Haters, like myself, should turn the hate down a notch (I won't) and fans should really not say the character is any good, in any way.

don't expect Broly fans to clam up then.
if we can't say he's good then people cant say any other character is good
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Post by Doctor. » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:24 am

I thought I made it clear I was mostly joking with the Broly comment (especially with the "I won't"), but I suppose I came off as pretentious? I apologize either way.

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:45 am

Honestly, Goku being the most powerful hero is not being overrated. Someone like Vegeta, who isn't the most powerful but the fans thinking he's so powerful is overrated. I'd say Goku is rated exactly where he belongs. That' who the creator(s) of the story want to be the most powerful, then he is. That's THE STORY, not "overrated."

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Post by gohann » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:22 am

Too many underrated characters to name, but the most overrated ones are definitely Goku and Vegeta. They are way past their prime, they aren't the least bit interesting now, and they still get all the screentime and fan praise.

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Post by nickzambuto » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:30 am

Dr. Gero, King Cold, Dabura. It's almost comical how these three characters pretty much have the most fascinating backgrounds of any character in the franchise and just ooze potential to be awesome, relevant characters, but were used as little more than tools in the story and as a result fans don't care about them. I mean Dr. Gero in particular is pretty much one of my favorite characters. What's not interesting about a man who's intelligence equals Goku's strength, and who's drive and will is just as strong as Goku's due to his boiling hatred? Since the Toriyama interview where he said Gero's son was in the RRA but died, and 16 was modeled after his son, there's been all kinds of fan theories saying things like Goku must have caused the death of his son during his raid on the RRA, and that fascinates me to no end. Gero has the potential to be one of the most three dimensional and badass characters in the franchise.

Overrated? I think I like every single character to ever appear in Dragon Ball to an extent, but the tears of Gohan fans who can't get over the fact that he isn't the main character does get on my nerves.

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Post by Doctor. » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:37 am

gohann wrote:Too many underrated characters to name, but the most overrated ones are definitely Goku and Vegeta. They are way past their prime, they aren't the least bit interesting now, and they still get all the screentime and fan praise.
I assume you wouldn't mind explaining your point of view a bit more, I'm interested in how someone like Goku, whose mind has barely been explored to such an extent as Vegeta and Gohan, is not interesting and doesn't have the potential to be developed further. I agree there's nothing more to be done with Vegeta at this point without rehashing past plot points, but not with Goku.

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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:49 am

Underrated:

Nappa. I don't the guy gets enough love. He puts the series in one of the grimmest spots ever with Piccolo's death and he's basically more powerful than all of the good guys except for Goku, something that doesn't mean too much when you take in the series as a whole but is rather significant when you consider where the series is and how that power gap is actually used with the death of Tenshinhan, Chaozu, and Piccolo and the former deaths weren't even directly his fault; they were so desperate that they used moves that led to a noble sacrifice and Nappa brushes both attacks off like they're nothing. Oh and he does the whole "big brute wrecking machine" fighting much better than Broly.

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Post by nickzambuto » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:54 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:Underrated:

Nappa. I don't the guy gets enough love. He puts the series in one of the grimmest spots ever with Piccolo's death and he's basically more powerful than all of the good guys except for Goku, something that doesn't mean too much when you take in the series as a whole but is rather significant when you consider where the series is and how that power gap is actually used with the death of Tenshinhan, Chaozu, and Piccolo and the former deaths weren't even directly his fault; they were so desperate that they used moves that led to a noble sacrifice and Nappa brushes both attacks off like they're nothing. Oh and he does the whole "big brute wrecking machine" fighting much better than Broly.
I think Nappa has a lot of fans actually. We just don't talk about him much because he only impacted a section of one arc, but I believe most people agree with you that he's great.

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Post by Doctor. » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:56 pm

Nappa has a lot of fans because of TeamFourStar's parody series. Same as Mr. Popo, for instance. He doesn't have a lot of fans because of his real character.

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Post by Big Green The Yoshi » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:03 pm

Overrated:

Tenshinhan: Krillin is the strongest earthling, period. Other than that, Krillin had way more moments than Tenshinhan ever did.
Vegeta: Piccolo is a much better anti-hero. Majin Vegeta was a joke, as well.

Underrated:

Future Trunks: Even though he didn't really have a place in the series after he killed Freeza, he was a good character.

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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:06 pm

What Doctor. said. He's also a part of what I believe to probably be one of the most underrated fights in the series with him taking on the Z Fighters, at least until Goku comes out and curbstomps him. Everything from him fighting Tenshinhan to him closing in on Gohan to finish him off is written beautifully. It's the first time where all the Z Fighters come together and fight as a unit. Add in Piccolo and Gohan into the mix and it looks like they're gonna kick some serious ass, even without Goku. And then Yamcha gets killed off and sets off a chain reaction of hopelessness and despair as each fighter gets picked off one at a time. But even so, it provides enough "hope spots" for you to believe that they can win with just a little bit of luck and the fact that it's established that Nappa isn't even the strongest Saiyan they have to deal with makes it seem plausible that they can win by the skin of their teeth. That doesn't happen often, where an uphill battle seems like it can actually be won WITHOUT the designated hero intervening.

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