The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Guide-books hold more merit than fan speculation.

This is funny coming from you, considering you're the one who nitpicks what he likes from the Daizenshuu. Then if anyone counters your argument with the Daizenshuu, you keep spewing your opinion like it was fact anyway.

[ekrolo2]

Cell Games Golden Great Ape Vegeta VS Majin SSJ3 Vegeta: who has the bigger f*ck off kamikaze explosion.

[Captain Space]

Guide-books hold more merit than fan speculation.

I still don't see how this disproves "there's absolutely no reason to suspect that those numbers are any kind of canon, since they weren't written by the person who originally wrote the story, and in his only statement regarding the guidebooks they're in, said actual original author made no reference to the numbers but instead made a statement that would have to be twisted practically in half to even vaguely apply it to those numbers, but since they're not unreasonable estimates you can personally use them if you like".

There's no reason the person who came up with those numbers for the guidebook has some kind of magical ability for their guesses at what a character's power level is to "hold more merit" than yours or mine or anyone else's just because of the company they work for, unless they went up and asked Toriyama and I sincerely doubt that they did (since he almost certainly doesn't know and never knew what the exact numbers were, other than those given in the manga).

Cell Games Golden Great Ape Vegeta VS Majin SSJ3 Vegeta: who has the bigger f*ck off kamikaze explosion.

Pretty sure that Majin + SSJ3 is a boost as big as or bigger than Golden Oozaru. Especially if this is a Cell Games-era Vegeta vs. a Majin-Vegeta-era Vegeta like I'm pretty sure it is.

[nickzambuto]

Scenario:
Back in the Boo arc. After seeing Super/Evil Boo emerge from the Room of Spirit and Time with Piccolo and the boys nowhere in sight, Yemma assumes all of Earth's heroes have officially been defeated. He then expedites Vegeta's revival, seeing him as the last option. Vegeta arrives at the Lookout just in time to see Super/Evil Boo slap and then eat Bulma. Can Rageta destroy Majin Boo?

[h0kuten]

Guide-books hold more merit than fan speculation.

This is funny coming from you, considering you're the one who nitpicks what he likes from the Daizenshuu. Then if anyone counters your argument with the Daizenshuu, you keep spewing your opinion like it was fact anyway.

It's never really been countered though. Also, I've found a way to make essentially, 99% of things work that come form the Daizenshuu.

As for the thread. Rageta powered up beyond the likes of Super Vegetto. So obviously, Rageta would ROFL Super Boo with ease.

[Captain Space]

Scenario:
Back in the Boo arc. After seeing Super/Evil Boo emerge from the Room of Spirit and Time with Piccolo and the boys nowhere in sight, Yemma assumes all of Earth's heroes have officially been defeated. He then expedites Vegeta's revival, seeing him as the last option. Vegeta arrives at the Lookout just in time to see Super/Evil Boo slap and then eat Bulma. Can Rageta destroy Majin Boo?

Theoretically yes, with ease, but it's possible that he couldn't do it before his character took that final step in the Kid Buu fight and its aftermath, or something. (Like, between Cell and Buu he unwittingly starts caring for his family, during the Buu arc he comes to realise how much they mean to him leading to plenty of development, first denial and then acceptance, and then finally post-Buu he knows the feeling of losing it all and hence the rage-boost is possible when the threat of that tangibly resurfaces before his eyes. Or something. I dunno. If this theory is correct maybe he couldn't do it yet or not to such an extent.)

[In Brightest Day]

Yamcha (Android arc) vs. Chaozu (Buu arc), Jaco and Roshi (Revival of F).

[DBZAOTA482]

Yamcha (Android arc) vs. Chaozu (Buu arc), Jaco and Roshi (Revival of F).

Yamcha one-shots.

[In Brightest Day]

Okay, hypothetically if Dragonball Super/Battle of Gods/Revival of F are totally canon to End of Z, how powerful would that make Uub based on what we know currently. Who is the strongest character he could beat in your view?

[In Brightest Day]

Shisame and Freeza's army (Revival of F) vs. Eighteen, Mr. Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Son Goten and Tarble.

[Lord Beerus]

Shisame and Freeza's army (Revival of F) vs. Eighteen, Mr. Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Son Goten and Tarble.

Buu turns Shisame and all of Freeza's army into candy and eats them all.

[h0kuten]

Shisame and Freeza's army (Revival of F) vs. Eighteen, Mr. Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Son Goten and Tarble.

Buu turns Shisame and all of Freeza's army into candy and them all.

Piccolo was astounded at 1rst form Frieza's power level, despite sensing Ultimate Gohan. This at least infers that 1rst form Frieza is above Ultimate Gohan.

1rst Form Frieza solo's.

[dbzfan7]

Shisame and Freeza's army (Revival of F) vs. Eighteen, Mr. Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Son Goten and Tarble.

Everyone but Yamcha and Tarble solo this.

[In Brightest Day]

Shisame and Freeza's army (Revival of F) vs. Eighteen, Mr. Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Son Goten and Tarble.

Buu turns Shisame and all of Freeza's army into candy and them all.

Piccolo was astounded at 1rst form Freeza's power level, despite sensing Ultimate Gohan. This at least infers that 1rst form Freeza is above Ultimate Gohan.

1rst Form Freeza solo's.

If I didn't make it clear enough, Freeza himself isn't part of the fight.

[nickzambuto]

Shisame and Freeza's army (Revival of F) vs. Eighteen, Mr. Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Son Goten and Tarble.

Buu turns Shisame and all of Freeza's army into candy and them all.

Piccolo was astounded at 1rst form Freeza's power level, despite sensing Ultimate Gohan. This at least infers that 1rst form Freeza is above Ultimate Gohan.

1rst Form Freeza solo's.

I believe it's fairly clear he was referring to Freeza's army excluding Freeza.

Let's see. Shishami was seemingly dead even with Piccolo. Mr. Boo would need to be the one to fight him if the team wants to win. Meanwhile Yamcha will probably tire out like Krillin did and Tarble is literally useless. Can 18, Goten, and Trunks defeat the whole 1,000+ army on their own? Before the movie I would have said one solos effortlessly, but it seems that the storyline took a different approach, with sheer numbers actually being pretty effective.

Of course this is disregarding fusion and assuming all Boo does is fight Shishami and not fodderize Shishami then continue helping with the army. In reality the team certainly wins, I'm just looking for ways to make it a little more daunting... In reality, again even if we discount fusion, Mr. Boo would equal Gohan (personally i subscribe to the view that Gohan can still access most of his Mystic power in Super Saiyan form, but Boo has a lot less restraint than him, and even if Gohan was indeed much weaker, that just puts Boo OVER him)Goten and Trunks together surpass Piccolo, 18 surpasses Tenshinhan and Krillin, and Yamcha surpasses Roshi and Jaco. I see no reason why the team wouldn't win, unless Shishami systematically targets the weakest fighters one by one, and we assume he can even defeat Goten and Trunks at all, and then he plus the whole army fire everything they have at Boo.

[RandomGuy96]

Shisame and Freeza's army (Revival of F) vs. Eighteen, Mr. Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Son Goten and Tarble.

It was stated that SS Gohan alone could have wasted the entire army, including Shisami. Mr. Buu solos. Then Freeza comes out to see what's going on, and Mr. Buu kills him in one punch before he even thinks about switching forms.

[dbzfan7]

Shisame and Freeza's army (Revival of F) vs. Eighteen, Mr. Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Son Goten and Tarble.

It was stated that SS Gohan alone could have wasted the entire army, including Shisami. Mr. Buu solos.

Actually just base Gohan. Gohan goes SSJ later which surprises Freeza.

[Noah]

New matches (Equal power, limited stamina):

- Grandpa Son Gohan x Jeice
- Krillin x Nail
- Majin Vegeta x Tullece
- Mutenroshi x Final Form Freeza (Namek Arc)
- Nappa x Recoome
- Piccolo x Gogeta
- Pui Pui x Garlic Jr.
- Super Boo x Goku (Freeza Arc)
- Tien x Future Trunks

[RandomGuy96]

Shisame and Freeza's army (Revival of F) vs. Eighteen, Mr. Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Son Goten and Tarble.

It was stated that SS Gohan alone could have wasted the entire army, including Shisami. Mr. Buu solos.

Actually just base Gohan. Gohan goes SSJ later which surprises Freeza.

That wasn't including Shisami, since Gohan had to go SS to beat him.

[In Brightest Day]

Shisame and Freeza's army (Revival of F) vs. Eighteen, Mr. Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Son Goten and Tarble.

Out of curiousity, how do you guys think this fight would differ if Buu was switched for Kibitoshin?