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Re: What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:01 pm

Rukura wrote:EDIT: Related, Dragon Ball Z Super/Chou.
People say that? Jeez... :roll:
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Post by Kuririn Fan » Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:45 pm

DoomieDoomie911 wrote:
Rukura wrote:EDIT: Related, Dragon Ball Z Super/Chou.
People say that? Jeez... :roll:
Dragon Ball Z GT
Dragon Ball Z Kai
Dragon Ball Z manga

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Re: What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy

Post by DomoArigatoMrPopo » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:09 pm

I'm not sure if it's just me being used to the dub, but it feels more natural for me to say "Saiyan" with an "ay" sound rather than an "ai/eye" sound. However, maybe that's just due to me saying "Saiyan" and not "Saiya-jin". It feels completely natural to say "S-eye-a-jin" but not "S-eye-an", similarly it feels more natural to say "Saiyan" but not "Say-a-jin".

Either way, I can respect fans of the original work, but it's just what I'm used to. If it's really such a big point of contention that fans actually get irate about it, maybe they're taking a goofy manga/anime far too seriously.

That being said, one thing that always bugged me about the dub was Tien's name. Krillin's name never bothered me, even though they lost the chestnut shaolin pun, because Kuririn was probably more difficult to pronounce to western children with little Japanese exposure, but with Tien it's different. Tenshinhan isn't that difficult to say, and now the dubs are caught between some weird place in between the old dubs and the original JP version, calling him things like Tien Shinhan as if Shinhan is his last name. That being said, I'm pretty sure the Tien name was just to fit with the mouth-flaps, since Chaozu called him Ten-san, similarly to how Bulma's "Son-kun" became "Goku".

It doesn't make me irate, but given that they're trying harder to stick to the source material, it still feels weird that they'd do that.

EDIT: Wordfilters. Ridiculous. All they do is stifle conversation out of source material elitism. How can you discuss dub terms if they're immediately wordfiltered into the correct terms?

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Re: What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:13 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:
DoomieDoomie911 wrote:
Rukura wrote:EDIT: Related, Dragon Ball Z Super/Chou.
People say that? Jeez... :roll:
Dragon Ball Z GT
Dragon Ball Z Kai
Dragon Ball Z manga
What's wrong with DBZ Kai?

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Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:52 am

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Dragon Ball Z GT
Dragon Ball Z Kai
Dragon Ball Z manga[/quote]

What's wrong with DBZ Kai?[/quote]
Its just Dragon Ball KAI in Japan, but of course they had to add Z when it came to USA...

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:17 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:
Dragon Ball Z GT
Dragon Ball Z Kai
Dragon Ball Z manga[/quote]

What's wrong with DBZ Kai?[/quote]
Its just Dragon Ball KAI in Japan, but of course they had to add Z when it came to USA...[/quote]

Yeah I know it's just Kai in Japan, but it makes more sense for it to be called Z Kai over here because, unlike Japan, the whole series isn't just called Dragon Ball. If they were starting with the original, then yeah. But for the west, Kai starting with Raditz makes more sense being called Z Kai

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Post by ABED » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:24 am

Even so, I still don't think it makes much sense to call it just DB Kai. Yeah, the manga is all DB, but not the anime, and the only portion of the series they reversioned was DBZ.
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Post by LuckyCat » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:50 am

ABED wrote:Even so, I still don't think it makes much sense to call it just DB Kai. Yeah, the manga is all DB, but not the anime, and the only portion of the series they reversioned was DBZ.
Though it does fit with Japanese naming conventions and at least gives the illusion of Kai being its own series.

So we have:
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z
Dragon Ball GT
Dragon Ball Kai
Dragon Ball Super

I think it all comes down to brand recognition. Z is somewhat important in the U.S. for the brand, whereas in Japan it doesn't appear to matter.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:58 am

ABED wrote:Even so, I still don't think it makes much sense to call it just DB Kai. Yeah, the manga is all DB, but not the anime, and the only portion of the series they reversioned was DBZ.
Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at, but worded it poorly. :lol:

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Re: What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:04 pm

When people call the entire series "dragon ball Z". When people say I'm wrong for saying "Tenshinhan" and "Mr. Satan" or that I'm spelling Freeza wrong and that Tie n Hercul e and Fr(i)za are right.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:08 pm

DomoArigatoMrPopo wrote:I'm not sure if it's just me being used to the dub, but it feels more natural for me to say "Saiyan" with an "ay" sound rather than an "ai/eye" sound. However, maybe that's just due to me saying "Saiyan" and not "Saiya-jin". It feels completely natural to say "S-eye-a-jin" but not "S-eye-an", similarly it feels more natural to say "Saiyan" but not "Say-a-jin".

Either way, I can respect fans of the original work, but it's just what I'm used to. If it's really such a big point of contention that fans actually get irate about it, maybe they're taking a goofy manga/anime far too seriously.

That being said, one thing that always bugged me about the dub was Tenshinhan's name. Krillin's name never bothered me, even though they lost the chestnut shaolin pun, because Kuririn was probably more difficult to pronounce to western children with little Japanese exposure, but with Tenshinhan it's different. Tenshinhan isn't that difficult to say, and now the dubs are caught between some weird place in between the old dubs and the original JP version, calling him things like Tenshinhan Shinhan as if Shinhan is his last name. That being said, I'm pretty sure the Tenshinhan name was just to fit with the mouth-flaps, since Chaozu called him Ten-san, similarly to how Bulma's "Son-kun" became "Goku".


It doesn't make me irate, but given that they're trying harder to stick to the source material, it still feels weird that they'd do that.

EDIT: Wordfilters. Ridiculous. All they do is stifle conversation out of source material elitism. How can you discuss dub terms if they're immediately wordfiltered into the correct terms?
They could have easily called him Ten shinhan, I mean it would still be stupid but it would be closer too the correct spelling.
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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:15 pm

Probably already been said. But people referring to Akira Toriyama by just "Akira" makes me want to stab raccoons.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:45 pm

"Dragon Ball deaths are not emotional because they always come back to life."

By that logic I shouldn't feel anything seeing these scenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPJvOgbXe2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3XwrgjLKLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n4t1icTC28
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Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:51 pm

The deaths are emotional as they're happening but bar Piccolo sacrificing himself due to the fact the Dragon Balls themselves are temporarily gone when he bites the dust, all the others don't really make much sense to get choked up over from an in-universe perspective. Especially from the characters who become so okay with hordes of people being murdered simply because they know the Dragon Balls can restore them anyway. I think Krillin even suggested to Bulma it would be okay for Goten and Trunks to die since they can just wish them back anyway.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:23 pm

Ree wrote:That doesn't sound right to me

"Its okay for Masako Nozawa to voice the Son family but when other dub actors like Terry Klassem voice multiple characters they're the devil!"
? Their is a difference between Nozawa voicing five characters who all are relate to a character she has been voicing for nearly 30 years and Sabat who for awhile it was easy to name the characters he didn't voice!
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:25 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:Its just Dragon Ball KAI in Japan, but of course they had to add Z when it came to USA...
It wasn't just the USA. It got re-branded to Z Kai everywhere but Japan.

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Post by LuckyCat » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:57 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:It wasn't just the USA. It got re-branded to Z Kai everywhere but Japan.
Do people really like this renaming though? I'm just thinking in everyday conversation having that alphabet soup in the title is cumbersome. And then hardcore fans just call it Kai the same way they call the new series Super.

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Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:25 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:"Dragon Ball deaths are not emotional because they always come back to life."

By that logic I shouldn't feel anything seeing these scenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPJvOgbXe2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3XwrgjLKLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n4t1icTC28
Or Kuririn's first death. That scene is very, very emotional.
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Post by nickzambuto » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:20 am

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DoomieDoomie911 wrote:This has probably been mentioned and/or discussed in this long thread, but people saying "Dragon Ball Z" when referring to the series as a whole really irks me. Also, "Sayin".
That too is a peeve of mine and helps me separate the really knowledgeable fans from the casual ones.
I find this mentality just pompous. I know it's correctly pronounced 'Sigh-yan' but I still say Say-in out of habit and preference. I've been a fan for 15 years, but that makes me and millions of others a casual fan?
Wait, I just saw this response now.

That's my bad. I pronounce it S-ai-yan too, my former post was replying to his comment about people referring to the whole series as Dragon Ball Z. I think specific pronunciations like that are understandable since many people have gone years and years without even knowing the words should be pronounced some other way. But calling the whole franchise Dragon Ball Z is just blatantly disregarding another entire anime series that we have complete access to and no excuse to ignore.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:31 am

nickzambuto wrote: That's my bad. I pronounce it S-ai-yan too, my former post was replying to his comment about people referring to the whole series as Dragon Ball Z. I think specific pronunciations like that are understandable since many people have gone years and years without even knowing the words should be pronounced some other way. But calling the whole franchise Dragon Ball Z is just blatantly disregarding another entire anime series that we have complete access to and no excuse to ignore.
Well yeah I'm not denying that, calling the whole series DBZ is just stupid. That's not that common anymore though thankfully

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