TripleRach wrote:ahill1 wrote:Goku base = Freeza(speedup) >>> Vegeta(post dende zenkai) = Freeza final form(initial) >>> Freeza(3rd form) >> Piccolo(w/o weights) > Freeza 2nd form(full power) > Piccolo(weighted) > Freeza 2nd form(vs gohan) > Freeza 2nd form(initial) > 1,000,000.
h0kuten wrote:Freeza (Final Form Powered Up) >= Goku (Namek) >>> Vegeta (Namek) >= Freeza (Final Form Initial) >> 3rd Form Freeza >= Gohan (Enraged) >> Piccolo (Full Power) >= Freeza 2nd Form > Gohan (Enraged) >>>> Goku (Kaio-Kenx10)
This is not a mathematics forum. Please communicate with full sentences, not equations.
It gets the point across, right? Like, I know it looks a bit odd, but saying "Goku in base is as strong as Freeza after he sped up, who's way stronger than Vegeta after Dende's zenkai, who's equal with" etc. etc. etc. conveys the exact same information as the above but takes far longer to type (and read I guess). I don't want to start a fight or anything, it's just...everyone knows what "=" means, right?
I mean...I think Yamcha had surpassed Roshi by this point, and if Chi-Chi hadn't she'd still probably at least passed 21st Roshi's level or neared it, and...moon*...soooo...
(*whereas the most that had occurred up to this point in YYH was Toguro demolishing some buildings, and Hiei wiping out I think a good chunk of a mountain.)
Noah wrote:New matches:
- Android 19 and 20 x SSJ Goku (No Heart Virus)
- Android 19 and 20 x SSJ Mirai Trunks (Android Arc/Pre-RoSaT)
- Android 19 and 20 x SSJ Vegeta (Android Arc/Pre-RoSaT)
- Arale x Piccolo Daimao
- Cyborg Tao x Raspberry
- False SSJ Goku x Final Form Freeza (Namek Arc)
- Kid Goku (Daimao Arc) x Garlic Jr. (No transform/Imortality)
- Pan (GT) x Base Kid Trunks (can transform in SSJ)
- SSJ Goku Post RoSaT x Meta Coola Army
- Zangya x Android 16, 17 and 18
-He can take one of them for sure, but looking at Vegeta's fight and how it was only a bluff that stopped 20 beating him while he was weakened...I guess it all depends on how much Goku lets his power get drained. Probably he still wins, since I think Vegeta was showing off and just let 19 grab him to prove he didn't care.
-I should think Trunks, he should still be stronger and he definitely doesn't screw around.
-I mean...we saw this happen...and he would've lost if 20 attacked immediately after...but then if both fought him at once he might've been more careful...I dunno.
-Arale for sure. I don't see Daimao cracking the planet in half XD
-I think Freeza's soldiers on Namek were probably about 1,000 power each. Tao's in trouble.
-We can only assume 'false SSJ' is weaker than the real deal, so I guess Freeza.
-Garlic Jr. was able to beat up Kami, who deflected this Goku with one finger, so Garlic wins pretty handily here.
-Pass.
-Given Resurrection F, I guess the army eventually wears him down, but he's gonna go through a lot of them first.
-Zangya and the other henchmen in that movie (aside from that one guy Trunks impaled on his arm) were able to just about keep up with a FPSSJ; Zangya wins pretty easily here.
TGCF1203 wrote:Since I'm here...
.Goku (Saiyan Saga, no Kaioken) vs Bardock and his team
. SSJ Saiyan Saga Goku vs First Form Freeza
.Piccolo (pre-Kami) vs. King Cold
. SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta (Android saga) vs Future Android 17 and Future Android 18
. SSJ Goten and SSJ Kid Trunks vs Android 16
.Yamcha (Android saga) vs Zarbon
TV special Bardock is slightly stronger than Goku and has allies, so they win. Manga/Minus Bardock and co. get wrecked.
The gap between this base Goku and this Freeza is quite a bit bigger than the gap between base Goku (when he fought Freeza) and 100% Freeza, so I guess SSJ isn't enough to make up the gap.
After his training for the androids, Piccolo wins with ease.
I guess Goku and Vegeta, given how Trunks didn't do too horribly against just one android.
I say the kids, but this one is kind of hard to be accurate about.
Yamcha, pretty sure.
