Canon's whatever you want to be canon. GT is not factually non-canon.h0kuten wrote:Exactly.singsing wrote:I mean, SSJ3 brings a user to their limits too...
Dragonball GT is so contradictory, it makes next to no sense. It's a good thing it isn't canon to the original Mang like Battle of Gods & Dragonball Super are.
The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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Most Dragon Ball fans are incapable of making a logically sound argument.
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Equal Power Matches:
1: Recoome vs. Nappa
2: Base Vegetto vs. Whis
3: Yamcha vs. Ultimate Gohan
4: Chaozu vs. Guldo
5: Beerus vs. Final Form Freeza
6: Kewi vs. Dodoria vs. Pui Pui
7: Android 17 vs. Super Buu(No candy beam or absorbing)
8: LSSJ Broly vs. Buff Buu
9: SSJ4 Gogeta vs. Golden Freeza
10: Z Fighters Battle Royal:
-Piccolo
-Yamcha
-Tenshinhan
-Mr.Buu
-Android 18
-SSGSS Goku
-SSGSS Vegeta
-Krillin
-SSJ Future Trunks
-Ultimate Gohan
-Chaozu
-SSJ Kid Trunks
-SSJ Goten
1: Recoome vs. Nappa
2: Base Vegetto vs. Whis
3: Yamcha vs. Ultimate Gohan
4: Chaozu vs. Guldo
5: Beerus vs. Final Form Freeza
6: Kewi vs. Dodoria vs. Pui Pui
7: Android 17 vs. Super Buu(No candy beam or absorbing)
8: LSSJ Broly vs. Buff Buu
9: SSJ4 Gogeta vs. Golden Freeza
10: Z Fighters Battle Royal:
-Piccolo
-Yamcha
-Tenshinhan
-Mr.Buu
-Android 18
-SSGSS Goku
-SSGSS Vegeta
-Krillin
-SSJ Future Trunks
-Ultimate Gohan
-Chaozu
-SSJ Kid Trunks
-SSJ Goten
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The collateral damage from Goku vs Vegeta SSJG SS kills everybody within the vicinity.SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Equal Power Matches:
1: Recoome vs. Nappa
2: Base Vegetto vs. Whis
3: Yamcha vs. Ultimate Gohan
4: Chaozu vs. Guldo
5: Beerus vs. Final Form Freeza
6: Kewi vs. Dodoria vs. Pui Pui
7: Android 17 vs. Super Buu(No candy beam or absorbing)
8: LSSJ Broly vs. Buff Buu
9: SSJ4 Gogeta vs. Golden Freeza
10: Z Fighters Battle Royal:
-Piccolo
-Yamcha
-Tenshinhan
-Mr.Buu
-Android 18
-SSGSS Goku
-SSGSS Vegeta
-Krillin
-SSJ Future Trunks
-Ultimate Gohan
-Chaozu
-SSJ Kid Trunks
-SSJ Goten
Goku wins.
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Wouldn't really go that way if it was equal power.h0kuten wrote: The collateral damage from Goku vs Vegeta SSJG SS kills everybody within the vicinity.
Goku wins.
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Pretty sure Gogeta takes on that.SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:9: SSJ4 Gogeta vs. Golden Freeza
Tarble vs Gine.
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Hum. Tarble was said to have no talent for fighting (or desire for it)...similar thing said about Gine, but she actually did take part in several battles in order to come to this conclusion. So I'd imagine either:Absolute Ice wrote:
Tarble vs Gine.
-They're at a similar power level but she actually knows how to fight, whereas I don't see Tarble as having done really anything in the way of training or fighting before getting booted off-world, or
-Due to having trained, she's also at a much higher power level than him, albeit not at the level of a fully-competent saiyan warrior
Either way, I say Gine wins (unless Tarble's 'royal blood' or whatever is really that hax but I shouldn't think so).
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Vegetto finger flicks even Whis.h0kuten wrote:Beerus vs Super Saiyan 4 Vegetto (Please no dormant power argument regarding the multiplier of Super Saiyan 4).
Piccolo (Arrival of Trunks) vs Vegeta Base (Arrival of Trunks)
Gohan (Arrival of Trunks) vs 3rd Form Freeza (Full Power)
8 Cell Juniors vs Kid Gohan Mssj + Goku Mssj + Vegeta Mssj + Trunks Mssj, all Cell Games versions.
Boohan (Perfect Cell Absorbed) + 1,000 Cell Juniors vs Super Vegetto
Vegeta takes this after a hard and ling fight.
Same result as Namek.
Gohan can one shot every Cell Junior.
Vegetto wins without difficulty.
Tarble one shots Gine.Absolute Ice wrote:
Tarble vs Gine.
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Continued from this post.
2. Piccolo (Arrival on Namek) vs. Nail
3. Gohan (Saiyan arc; has the will to fight) vs. Raditz
4. Chaozu (Saiyan arc) vs. Goku and Piccolo (Beginning of Z)
5. Goku (Saiyan arc; Kaioken x3) vs. Zarbon (Beautiful)
1. Vegeta (Saiyan arc; Great Ape) vs. Captain GinyuHypothetically, say the units read from all of the scouters in the series were in indecipherable, some alien unit + number we didn't know, and Bulma never fixed the scouter to have normal readings. So we couldn't determine power gaps in the series (i,e; not knowing Saiyan arc Vegeta is 2.25x Goku, not knowing 1st form Freeza is 12x Nail, not knowing Raditz is 3-4x Goku, not knowing Goku when arriving on Namek is 1.33x weaker than Ginyu (since we couldn't divide his Kaioken x2 by a number), etc..). Or simply put, there were no scouter readings, and no supplemental guidebook information on battle powers. Who do you think would win these fights?
2. Piccolo (Arrival on Namek) vs. Nail
3. Gohan (Saiyan arc; has the will to fight) vs. Raditz
4. Chaozu (Saiyan arc) vs. Goku and Piccolo (Beginning of Z)
5. Goku (Saiyan arc; Kaioken x3) vs. Zarbon (Beautiful)
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1: Mr.Satan vs. Bruce Lee
2: Videl vs. Ronda Rousey
3: Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. Tired Golden Freeza
4: Vegeta(vs.Freeza),Ginyu,Gohan(vs.Freeza),Krillin(vs.Freeza) and Jeese vs. 1rst Form Freeza
5: Goku's Genki Dama against Pure Boo vs. Beerus
6: SSJ2 Gotenks vs. SSJ Gogeta
7: SSJ Vegeta(Post ROSAT 1rst Time) vs. Imperfect Cell
8: Beerus,SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta vs. Whis
9: ASSJ Vegeta(Cell Games) and ASSJ Mirai Trunks(Cell Games) vs. SSJ Goten(Pre ROSAT) and SSJ Trunks(Pre ROSAT)
10: Mecha Freeza vs. 5th Form Cooler
2: Videl vs. Ronda Rousey
3: Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. Tired Golden Freeza
4: Vegeta(vs.Freeza),Ginyu,Gohan(vs.Freeza),Krillin(vs.Freeza) and Jeese vs. 1rst Form Freeza
5: Goku's Genki Dama against Pure Boo vs. Beerus
6: SSJ2 Gotenks vs. SSJ Gogeta
7: SSJ Vegeta(Post ROSAT 1rst Time) vs. Imperfect Cell
8: Beerus,SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta vs. Whis
9: ASSJ Vegeta(Cell Games) and ASSJ Mirai Trunks(Cell Games) vs. SSJ Goten(Pre ROSAT) and SSJ Trunks(Pre ROSAT)
10: Mecha Freeza vs. 5th Form Cooler
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1. Vegeta's reaction of Goku toying around with the other Ginyus and how he assumes that Goku may possibly be the Saiyan of Legend (without any use of the kaiyo-ken I might add, which Vegeta knows he has). I would then assume (with no knowledge of power levels) that this Goku leaves any form of Vegeta in the dust judging at how high of a figure he's seen. And since we see Ginyu practically fighting evenly with that same Goku (with even a slight edge), that would put Ginyu above the big ape as well.SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Continued from this post.1. Vegeta (Saiyan arc; Great Ape) vs. Captain GinyuHypothetically, say the units read from all of the scouters in the series were in indecipherable, some alien unit + number we didn't know, and Bulma never fixed the scouter to have normal readings. So we couldn't determine power gaps in the series (i,e; not knowing Saiyan arc Vegeta is 2.25x Goku, not knowing 1st form Freeza is 12x Nail, not knowing Raditz is 3-4x Goku, not knowing Goku when arriving on Namek is 1.33x weaker than Ginyu (since we couldn't divide his Kaioken x2 by a number), etc..). Or simply put, there were no scouter readings, and no supplemental guidebook information on battle powers. Who do you think would win these fights?
2. Piccolo (Arrival on Namek) vs. Nail
3. Gohan (Saiyan arc; has the will to fight) vs. Raditz
4. Chaozu (Saiyan arc) vs. Goku and Piccolo (Beginning of Z)
5. Goku (Saiyan arc; Kaioken x3) vs. Zarbon (Beautiful)
2. Piccolo thought he could actually be useful in the fight against Freeza by helping gohan and the others, while we see Nail get trashed by the tyrant. Granted, he was alone, but we still see him as being complete fodder, while Piccolo, sensing Freeza's full power, still rushes to help for Gohan's sake, not his own. Piccolo wins.
3. Piccolo was confident that with Gohan's strength combined with the rest of them, they could possibly out-maneuver and beat Nappa with a good strategy (except Gohan chickened out ultimately). Seeing as how Nappa is deemed many times stronger than Raditz, I'd say Gohan is capable of pulling a win.
4. Piccolo and Goku (though resulting in one's death and the other wounded) managed to take down Raditz, who was compared to being around the same strength as a Saibaman, which Chaozu didn't fight at all. No noticeable feats other than blowing himself up. Plus Goku and Piccolo have better techniques with more firepower.
5. I see Zarbon beating him. He seemed to laugh at the thought of a Vegeta (with an 18,000 pl, but that's not important) posing any threat, while that same Vegeta got wrecked pretty bad by Goku. But, we then see Goku get extremely fatigued afterward and still not even mortally wound Vegeta. Zarbon takes this.
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SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: 1: Mr.Satan vs. Bruce Lee
Bruce Lee stomps.
2: Videl vs. Ronda Rousey
Videl in a lol stomp.
3: Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. Tired Golden Freeza
Vegeta murders him.
4: Vegeta(vs.Freeza),Ginyu,Gohan(vs.Freeza),Krillin(vs.Freeza) and Jeese vs. 1rst Form Freeza
Such a confusing layout.
5: Goku's Genki Dama against Pure Boo vs. Beerus
Beerus doesn't notice it. Is this an actual question?
6: SSJ2 Gotenks vs. SSJ Gogeta
Lol. Gogeta stomps.
7: SSJ Vegeta(Post ROSAT 1rst Time) vs. Imperfect Cell
Vegeta is on par with Semi-Cell. He murders him.
8: Beerus,SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta vs. Whis
Whiss blitz's
9: ASSJ Vegeta(Cell Games) and ASSJ Mirai Trunks(Cell Games) vs. SSJ Goten(Pre ROSAT) and SSJ Trunks(Pre ROSAT)
Vegeta & Trunks get charged with child abuse.
10: Mecha Freeza vs. 5th Form Cooler
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3. Freeza laughed at the idea of base Vegeta doing anything to him, and since nothing really contradicts his statement, I abide by it. Freeza wins.SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:3: Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. Tired Golden Freeza
4: Vegeta(vs.Freeza),Ginyu,Gohan(vs.Freeza),Krillin(vs.Freeza) and Jeese vs. 1rst Form Freeza
6: SSJ2 Gotenks vs. SSJ Gogeta
7: SSJ Vegeta(Post ROSAT 1rst Time) vs. Imperfect Cell
9: ASSJ Vegeta(Cell Games) and ASSJ Mirai Trunks(Cell Games) vs. SSJ Goten(Pre ROSAT) and SSJ Trunks(Pre ROSAT)
10: Mecha Freeza vs. 5th Form Cooler
4. Vegeta said himself + Gohan + Krillin could beat Freeza someway or another, Jeice and Ginyu are fodder, but I doubt they'd actually lower the team's chances. I think Freeza is eventually overwhelmed.
6. Gotenks wins rather easily in my opinion. I see him as less than 2x weaker than Gogeta.
7. SS Vegeta >~ initial 2nd form Cell > 1st form Cell. Vegeta wins.
9. With Grade 2, Vegeta and Trunks would put up a fight, but I think Goten and Trunks have a noticeable power advantage and better stamina which would give them the win.
10. I consider them series-movie counterparts. Cooler would win because of his haxed Supernova in my opinion. Without any trickery of the sort, I'd be inclined to give the fight to Freeza. I usually like to think his Mechanical upgrade let him access his full power without the strain on his body.
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Great Ape Kid Goku (Emperor Pilaf Saga, Manga) VS Survey Corps Special Operations original Squad (Shingeki no Kyojin Manga/Anime composite)
During a full moon, in a forest with giant trees. Levi's squad does not know anything about Goku. Goku is of course on a bloodlusted rampage. No tail-cutting/grabbing.
SSJG Kid Goku (first appearance) VS Final Form Frieza (Namek Saga)
Battle of Gods Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and pregnant Videl pour their hearts (not their Ki) into this Kid Goku (his very first appearance in the manga)... Frieza then tries to kill this Goku. No tail grabbing or cutting.
During a full moon, in a forest with giant trees. Levi's squad does not know anything about Goku. Goku is of course on a bloodlusted rampage. No tail-cutting/grabbing.
SSJG Kid Goku (first appearance) VS Final Form Frieza (Namek Saga)
Battle of Gods Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and pregnant Videl pour their hearts (not their Ki) into this Kid Goku (his very first appearance in the manga)... Frieza then tries to kill this Goku. No tail grabbing or cutting.
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SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: 1: Mr.Satan vs. Bruce Lee
2: Videl vs. Ronda Rousey
3: Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. Tired Golden Freeza
4: Vegeta(vs.Freeza),Ginyu,Gohan(vs.Freeza),Krillin(vs.Freeza) and Jeese vs. 1rst Form Freeza
5: Goku's Genki Dama against Pure Boo vs. Beerus
6: SSJ2 Gotenks vs. SSJ Gogeta
7: SSJ Vegeta(Post ROSAT 1rst Time) vs. Imperfect Cell
8: Beerus,SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta vs. Whis
9: ASSJ Vegeta(Cell Games) and ASSJ Mirai Trunks(Cell Games) vs. SSJ Goten(Pre ROSAT) and SSJ Trunks(Pre ROSAT)
10: Mecha Freeza vs. 5th Form Cooler
1. Mr. Satan got smacked by Cell into a MOUNTAIN, and came out with a couple abrasions on his face. He easily elbowed Ultimate Gohan out of the way in DB Super in excitement over Videl's pregnancy. Forget Bruce Lee, The Champ reigns.
2. Videl single-handedly beat down and disarmed Road Bandits with guns, and then kicked an enhanced Spopovich so hard, his head literally turned 180 degrees. I would love to see Rousey do any of those. Plus, Videl can fly.
3. Golden Freeza laughed at the thought of Base Vegeta fighting him, and he's aready seen Goku's skills for himself when he was in Base. Freeza stomps.
4. Vegeta was confident with just himself, Gohan, and Krillin beating Freeza. Add 2 more players (meatshields) in the mix and that would be even better.
5. Goku barely beat Buu with it. It only worked when he had his power restored. Beerus tanks it np.
6. Gotenks IMO has a decent advantage in power, but I'm sure he'll find a way to screw it up. Gogeta wins.
7. Vegeta wins. I don't see Grade 2 being that much stronger than Super Saiyan, and Vegeta was pretty confident and anxious to beat down Semi-Cell, whose power he could sense. SSJ may not beat Semi-Cell, but it sure as heck beats Imperfect Cell, humans absorbed or not.
8. I see Whis winning here. Not easily, but not a hard fight either. Since both Saiyans >= Beerus, it'd be like Beerus and slightly stronger Beerus going up against him, but the gap would be too big IMO. Maybe if they formulated a strategy, they could pull it off. I see Whis winning 7/10 times.
9. The boost in power from Grade 2 makes them above the boys IMO. Plus with more battle experience, they can take the win.
10. Cooler actually endangered Yardrat Goku's life with a Super Nova. Freeza was turned into cold-cuts (Get it?
1. Goku would beat them just as handily as the regular titans do (except maybe Levi could maneuver a little better against him). He's much faster despite being a Giant Ape. Plus Mouth Blast would be just too strong.Angelus wrote:Great Ape Kid Goku (Emperor Pilaf Saga, Manga) VS Survey Corps Special Operations original Squad (Shingeki no Kyojin Manga/Anime composite)
During a full moon, in a forest with giant trees. Levi's squad does not know anything about Goku. Goku is of course on a bloodlusted rampage. No tail-cutting/grabbing.
SSJG Kid Goku (first appearance) VS Final Form Freeza (Namek Saga)
Battle of Gods Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and pregnant Videl pour their hearts (not their Ki) into this Kid Goku (his very first appearance in the manga)... Freeza then tries to kill this Goku. No tail grabbing or cutting.
2. No way is Goku, with a power level of 10, getting over 12,000,000 times stronger just by playing "Ring around the Rosie". I have Goku being around as strong as Gohan after his Zenkai Boost against 2nd Form Freeza.
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1. Hmmm... 215 pound professional fighter vs 150 pound actor with just a handful of anecdotes to back up his "skills"...SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: 1: Mr.Satan vs. Bruce Lee
2: Videl vs. Ronda Rousey
3: Base Vegeta(FNF) vs. Tired Golden Freeza
4: Vegeta(vs.Freeza),Ginyu,Gohan(vs.Freeza),Krillin(vs.Freeza) and Jeese vs. 1rst Form Freeza
5: Goku's Genki Dama against Pure Boo vs. Beerus
6: SSJ2 Gotenks vs. SSJ Gogeta
7: SSJ Vegeta(Post ROSAT 1rst Time) vs. Imperfect Cell
8: Beerus,SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta vs. Whis
9: ASSJ Vegeta(Cell Games) and ASSJ Mirai Trunks(Cell Games) vs. SSJ Goten(Pre ROSAT) and SSJ Trunks(Pre ROSAT)
10: Mecha Freeza vs. 5th Form Cooler
2. She broke Spopovich's neck and would've killed him if not for Babidi's creepy zombie regeneration magic. I'm pretty sure Spopovich could beat Rousey. I'm also pretty sure that Rousey would have lost to those 2-3 guys that ganged up on Videl.
3. Freeza explicitly stated that base Vegeta couldn't do a damn thing to him.
4. The team. Freeza said that Vegeta wasn't bluffing when he said that Krillin, Gohan, and him could manage something against Freeza, and he Freeza wasn't considering Gohan and Krillin's hidden skills either. Nor was he considering this addition of Ginyu, and his hidden skills.
5. Beerus. That was barely enough to destroy Pure Buu- it required a bit of extra power from SS Goku to finally do the job. Super Buu would smack it back easily.
6. Gogeta. I believe he's decently stronger, though not by a ridiculous amount, and he's obviously more skilled.
7. SS Vegeta. It seems that he was stronger than Semi-Cell even prior to going Grade II, since both Goku and Vegeta both eventually decided that the Grade II boost was negligible. Also, Trunks was surprised that Vegeta transformed to fight Semi-Cell, implying that his SS form was already enough. Finally, Semi-Cell was scared of SS Trunks.
8. Whis bitch-slaps all of them. Beerus got taken down in one hit, and Goku and Vegeta are moderately weaker than him.
9. Trunks tells Goten to step aside and effortlessly owns both his dad and his future self. He was giving serious problems to Buu arc SS Vegeta, who is a LOT stronger than the suppressed Cell that tooled both these idiots.
10. Cooler rips his brother to shreds. Cooler could shrug off hits from post-Yardrat Goku and seriously challenge him in a beam struggle; Mecha Freeza couldn't last ten seconds against Trunks, who himself couldn't do jack to post-Yardrat Goku's finger.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Mr. Satan vs. Bulma
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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Evey single villain who appears in DBZ and DBZ Movies vs. Whis
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That's like a weak kid (Beerus) and an even weaker kid (Golden Freeza) trying to fight a strong bully with the help of ants. "Strength in numbers" doesn't mean jack in this case.SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Evey single villain who appears in DBZ and DBZ Movies vs. Whis
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Goku (Saiyan Arc) vs Godzilla (Millenium Series)
Madara Uchiha vs Piccolo Daimao (Both in Prime)
Tao Pai Pai vs Rob Lucci
Yamcha (22nd Budokai) vs Ranma Saotome
Madara Uchiha vs Piccolo Daimao (Both in Prime)
Tao Pai Pai vs Rob Lucci
Yamcha (22nd Budokai) vs Ranma Saotome
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1. Goku with a Kaio-Ken x4 Kamehameha completely overpowered a blast that could destroy the planet. I doubt Godzilla would survive any of that.MarCas92 wrote:Goku (Saiyan Arc) vs Godzilla (Millenium Series)
Madara Uchiha vs Piccolo Daimao (Both in Prime)
2. Hard to say. Are you talking about just regular EMS Madara from his "Glory Days" or the most recent Rikudou/2 Rinnegan Madara? Cuz the latter can spawn mountain-sized Meteors, has invisible versions of himself to fight and protect him, regeneration, and has Susanoo who can chop several mountains in half with a single swipe. Daimao leveled a city with a ki attack. He can beat EMS Madara rather handily but dies to hax Madara rather easily.









