"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:54 pm

Captain Space wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: If they want to keep God to Vegeta and Goku for right now they can simply have Gohan say that he doesn't want it because he'd rather just be a scholar and then have Goku and Vegeta decide that the power is too great for Goten and Trunks and they need to get older and/or mature first.
The latter thing works, for sure, but...eh...that excuse for Gohan doesn't make too much sense to me. It doesn't cost him any studying or require any time-consuming training to spend five minutes getting god-powered (and maybe have a few tries until he can get the hand of absorbing it and retaining most of it), the benefits if something happens in the future (and it will) are immense, and he's already immensely powerful compared to normal human beings so in terms of distance from being 'normal' or whatever this is basically the same situation.
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Pannaliciour wrote:I think that episode 13 isn't the end of BOG arc because the end of BOG arc should be more like this: "ssj god goku defeated!".
Episode 12 is the end of the BoG arc, Episode 13's title implies that that episode is the beginning of Goku trying to surpass Super Saiyan God.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:31 pm

ArchedThunder wrote: Episode 12 is the end of the BoG arc, Episode 13's title implies that that episode is the beginning of Goku trying to surpass Super Saiyan God.
Unless they have Goku become SSGSS during his fight with Beerus, that would explain why in the preview for the next episode, SSG Goku can't land hits on Beerus.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:49 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: Episode 12 is the end of the BoG arc, Episode 13's title implies that that episode is the beginning of Goku trying to surpass Super Saiyan God.
Unless they have Goku become SSGSS during his fight with Beerus, that would explain why in the preview for the next episode, SSG Goku can't land hits on Beerus.
He can't land a hit on Beerus because he's 40% weaker than him. SSGSS wouldn't even the odds too much, either.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:50 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: Episode 12 is the end of the BoG arc, Episode 13's title implies that that episode is the beginning of Goku trying to surpass Super Saiyan God.
Unless they have Goku become SSGSS during his fight with Beerus, that would explain why in the preview for the next episode, SSG Goku can't land hits on Beerus.
I think that's because he's not used to his new power and speed, he'll probably get the hang of it by the end of the episode or in episode 11.
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He can't land a hit on Beerus because he's 40% weaker than him. SSGSS wouldn't even the odds too much, either.
That would only make sense if Beerus was going at 100% right away, which I doubt. Like in the movie he probably won't go much over 70%
There's no way they have a 3 episode fight and Goku doesn't land a single hit.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:54 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:That would only make sense if Beerus was going at 100% right away, which I doubt. Like in the movie he probably won't go much over 70%
There's no way they have a 3 episode fight and Goku doesn't land a single hit.
Beerus was expecting a worthy opponent from the SSG, someone who would force him to go at full strength. I imagine he'd go 100% but as the fight drags on, he'd adjust his strength to something Goku can manage.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sora Saiyan » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:50 am

Doctor. wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:That would only make sense if Beerus was going at 100% right away, which I doubt. Like in the movie he probably won't go much over 70%
There's no way they have a 3 episode fight and Goku doesn't land a single hit.
Beerus was expecting a worthy opponent from the SSG, someone who would force him to go at full strength. I imagine he'd go 100% but as the fight drags on, he'd adjust his strength to something Goku can manage.
I don't think Beerus will start out at 100%, I think he'll make a noticeable power up when he finally goes to that level. Beerus probably will just sense Goku's ki and respond with an amount that's above that. Going by BoG we know Goku didn't start at 100% either.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:47 am

ArchedThunder wrote: "That much power is too much responsibility, you guys have the protectors of the Universe thing covered pretty well, I'm going to focus on my studies!"
Still doesn't really hold much water to me. He's already got responsibility by already being one of the top 5/10 strongest people on the planet, and he can still study after spending like a day tops getting the hang of this. It just means if that responsibility he sort of has anyway does happen, he's less likely to fail.

I think the most likely explanation is "we get power-ups only when it's dramatically appropriate".
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Beerus was expecting a worthy opponent from the SSG, someone who would force him to go at full strength. I imagine he'd go 100% but as the fight drags on, he'd adjust his strength to something Goku can manage.
I'm guessing they won't deviate that far from the movie in an instance like this; the impression I got was that since divine ki is 'different' or whatever, or possibly since he's just so much more powerful now, Goku will have to take some time to get used to it. Kind of like what happened Yusuke in Yu Yu Hakusho when he first acquired demon power, it threw his aim off at first.

Well, I guess we'll see soon enough, anyway.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:33 am

I found a high res version of CD artwork:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:53 am

I really love that art. Kinda unrelated, but I originally was kinda meh on Goku's F outfit because it's so orange, but the more I see him in his Bluper form the more it makes sense that they toned down the amount of blue in the outfit, I wouldn't be surprised if they changed Vegeta's undersuit from blue to black for the same reason.


Anyways I excited for tonight's episode, I'll definitely be watching the raws of the next couple episodes before the good subs come out just to see the fighting.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Absolute Ice » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:00 am

UpFromTheSkies wrote:I found a high res version of CD artwork:
I bet this was done by the god-master Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru, am I right? The art is so beautiful.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:04 am

Whoever Goku's about to disintegrate there, he looks really happy about it XD
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZMerciter2005 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:36 am

It's going to be nice to see subtle changes in costumes and the Bluper Saiyan in an actual series. As much as I love the classic designs this new stuff is refreshing. I know the animation in Super won't be quite that good but if promotional work/posters/video games/etc. keep up with that quality if work then I'm happy.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:43 am

I really dislike the art of whoever's doing the new promotional material. It feels so lifeless.

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Post by Sora Saiyan » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:35 pm

Why does new dragon ball promo art turn out very average? It used to to be so good compared to this IMO. Anyway, Goku looks so menacing, I'd even say evil. :P

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:38 pm

Sora Saiyan wrote:Why does new dragon ball promo art turn out very average? It used to to be so good compared to this IMO. Anyway, Goku looks so menacing, I'd even say evil. :P
It's all drawn by one guy who isn't particularly a good artist anymore.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Araki » Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:02 pm

Toei's promotional arts usually look below average, with the exception of dvd/blu-ray covers. This one is actually much better than what they usually put out.

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Post by garfield15 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:48 pm

I actually think the art is pretty good. I'm surprised to see people find it so average, at least in comparison to other recent official arts

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Post by dae428 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:10 pm

garfield15 wrote:I actually think the art is pretty good. I'm surprised to see people find it so average, at least in comparison to other recent official arts
I agree. I don't think it's all that bad compared to some other new stuff too. I will say that Goku's hand does look a bit weird though... It's kind of fat and bulgy... Maybe it's just me... :?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:17 pm

I like the art of the person who drew the DB + Science promo art a while back. I don't think I've ever seen them draw action art though.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sora Saiyan » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:40 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
Sora Saiyan wrote:Why does new dragon ball promo art turn out very average? It used to to be so good compared to this IMO. Anyway, Goku looks so menacing, I'd even say evil. :P
It's all drawn by one guy who isn't particularly a good artist anymore.
Well that sucks. Golden Freeza looks the best on that picture, I don't think he looks bad at all, but the rest is just very average. The way that the Saiyans are drawn is always odd to me with modern DB art. It's either there face is too wide, there hair is too short, or both.
The art also looks sorta stuff compared to how it used to. It just doesn't compare to the old stuff IMO.

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