The All-Purpose "Translation Request" Thread

[Kamiccolo9]

Paragus says so

"we would no longer have a single foe left. The Northern Galaxy, and of course
the Eastern and Western Galaxies, would be undivided under our rule. "

herms me you could confirm this translation of DBZ movie 8? I got this text from a subtitle of a DVD.

That sub pretty clearly says that there is only one Northern Galaxy, and implies that there is only one for the East and West as well, unless they are bigger than the North for some reason. Going by your other post in the galaxy thread, it's pretty clear it doesn't say what you think it says.

[Herms]

But again, the phrase in question is Kita no Ginga, which on its own could potentially mean "Northern Galaxies" as well as "Northern Galaxy". Same for Nishi no Ginga (Western Galaxy/Galaxies) and Higashi no Ginga (Eastern). Overall I think it makes the most sense to opt for "Northern Galaxy", since that's the Occam's Razor approach and there's plenty of guide material and whatnot specifying that there are four galaxies in all, but "Northern Galaxies" is still a potential way of translating it.

[Kamiccolo9]

But again, the phrase in question is Kita no Ginga, which on its own could potentially mean "Northern Galaxies" as well as "Northern Galaxy". Same for Nishi no Ginga (Western Galaxy/Galaxies) and Higashi no Ginga (Eastern). Overall I think it makes the most sense to opt for "Northern Galaxy", since that's the Occam's Razor approach and there's plenty of guide material and whatnot specifying that there are four galaxies in all, but "Northern Galaxies" is still a potential way of translating it.

That may be so, and I wouldn't think of arguing with your knowledge of Japanese. I was just referring to the sub itself, since the poster had previously argued in a separate thread that it meant the exact opposite of what it actually said.

[Zetto]

Can anyone translate the first Dragon Ball movie promo for me? I can provide a link to the video.

[valfranx]

herms you can translate this scans?

Spoiler:

[Herms]

herms you can translate this scans?

Spoiler:

Son Goku (Super Saiyan 4)
The Saiyan ultimate form. Only Super Saiyans capable of maintaing their reason as Oozarus can become it. Its distinguishing features are a calm and aggressive personality, and black hair with red fur covering the body. Becomes able to fire the x10 Kamehameha.

Super Baby 1
After taking over Vegeta, Baby sucks up the Saiya-Power of Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Bra, growing into the final form of Vegeta-Baby.

[valfranx]

herms you can translate this scans?

Spoiler:

Son Goku (Super Saiyan 4)
The Saiyan ultimate form. Only Super Saiyans capable of maintaing their reason as Oozarus can become it. Its distinguishing features are a calm and aggressive personality, and black hair with red fur covering the body. Becomes able to fire the x10 Kamehameha.

Super Baby 1
After taking over Vegeta, Baby sucks up the Saiya-Power of Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Bra, growing into the final form of Vegeta-Baby.

thank you.

[Son_Gohan]

In the VIZ translation, it's more common for pieces of dialogue from the original line to be missing. But I noticed that in Piccolo's statement while on their way to meet the androids, he mentions the idea of having confidence in his "own power" which Herms' translation in the Strength Checker does not detail:



I normally side with Herms regarding these sort of things but I'd like some clarity on whether there's a word for "power" in there or if it's something the VIZ translator took upon himself, and what is truly meant by the context of Piccolo's response?

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Just to share, this is what the anime says:

Spoiler:

[Herms]

The phrase in question:

オレだって自信がないわけがない
Ore datte jishin ga nai wake ga nai
"It's not like I don't have confidence."

So a double negative indicating that he does have confidence. No specific mention of power or the androids. However, オレだって/Ore datte emphasizes "I". If you ditched the double negative, an alternative translation could be "I've got confidence too, you know". Piccolo emphasizing that he, specifically, has confidence is probably why Viz went with him saying he doesn't doubt his own power.

[Son_Gohan]

That's just what I wanted to know. Thanks Herms.

[Doctor.]

Spoiler:

Does it say that the Potara can only be used once in your life?

[dbgtFO]

Spoiler:

Does it say that the Potara can only be used once in your life?

Yes, but obviously they weren't expected to unfuse ever and when Kid Buu appears, Geezer Kaioshin on two occasions tell Goku and Vegeta to put the earrings on.

[valfranx]

Herms was seeing this spoiler of the episode 13. he is really saying that the universe was destroyed?

第13話
悟空よ、超サイヤ人ゴッドを超えてゆけ！
神と神の超絶パワー３度目のぶつかり合いでの宇宙消滅の危機はビルスが消し去った！そして、激しい戦いの中、悟空の姿が普通の超サイヤ人に戻ってしまう！？

source: http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/

[Herms]

It says Beerus abolishes the risk of the universe being destroyed when the gods' clash a third time. And Goku's going to revert back to regular Super Saiyan.

[valfranx]

thank you. This also confirms that we will not see the ssgss.

[Tyro]

Getting back to the question I asked about names before, how does a translator know whether a letter/sound is just for emphasis or a necessary part of the name? I know Simmons uses "Yamucha", "Kibit", and "Kakarot", but elsewhere I see translations that use "Yamcha", "Kibito", and "Kakarotto". Why is it acceptable to drop the -to from "Kakarotto" but not from "Kibito"?

[Herms]

Getting back to the question I asked about names before, how does a translator know whether a letter/sound is just for emphasis or a necessary part of the name? I know Simmons uses "Yamucha", "Kibit", and "Kakarot", but elsewhere I see translations that use "Yamcha", "Kibito", and "Kakarotto". Why is it acceptable to drop the -to from "Kakarotto" but not from "Kibito"?

It's based on the name source/name pun, and after that just personal preference. Kibito is a pun on the Japanese word tsukibito/attendant, while Kakarot is a pun on the English word "carrot", so it makes sense to keep the "o" for the former and leave it off for the later. That's the theory, anyway, but it's not a science. One could just as easily argue that the "carrot" pun is still easy to spot with the "Kakarotto" spelling, and that keeping the "to" is necessary to ensure Vegetto's name makes sense. There's nothing in the name spellings themselves to indicate which parts are "necessary" or not. It all depends on context and personal preference.

[Tyro]

I see. Does Yamcha's name also come down to preference? What do you make of the "Blooma"/"Bulma" argument?

[B]

What do you make of the "Blooma"/"Bulma" argument?

My take on that is that author himself has been consistently wrong for so long, it's hard to fight it or shake it. "Bulma" as a term will die when Dragon Ball itself dies.