Things you loved, but then they became a pain in the ass.

[Absolute Ice]

Following dbzfan7's very own topic, now just inverted. What is/are the thing(s) you loved back then, but now... You cannot even hear/read about?

I used to like Broly way back then, I was a child, little to nothing did I know about Dragon Ball lore and such. It was good a character, so violent, agressive and I even could experience fear in real life. I did not have any contact with other countries and did not pay attention to marketing and never talked a lot with friends about Dragon Ball/Broly, so it was a good time, you could appreciate the character from what you could see.
But then... Time passed, we eventually got the critical sense, you start to pay attention to marketings, start to pay attention in the story of what you are watching is delivering to you... You get in touch with other people who also like the same thing as you, until a certain time... You realize this character you liked is so overused, gets so much hype, it is wanked all over the world since his very creation, you notice he is worshipped by many people across the countries, a symbol of the maximum strength even though there villains way much stronger than him, video-games helping this cause, even putting him in par with Gogeta... You notice that his movies do not present you properly with an adequate story, and you see his reason to be so lunatic is ridiculous as hell. You feel the character losing his own shine, gradually you start to dislike the character once liked/loved a little/so much. It is kind of depressing, isn't? But eh, that is life for you.

[Doctor.]

Hmm, the Funimation dub quickly comes to mind. It was my first proper introduction to the series, so of course I loved it. I loved the voices, I loved Faulconer's score, I loved everything. Until, of course, I grew up and watched the original version and fell in love with the series all over again, and begun to see it the way it was meant to be seen. The more I learn about the series, the less I like the Funi dub.

Bardock too. I think this one's self-explanatory. The character is stupid, he's pointless and he shouldn't exist in any other material beyond the one special he was the main character of.

[RedRibbonSoldier#42]

All the pre BoG movies. Before I had a firm grasp of the main story they seemed cool enough, but now they just seem like derivative, unimaginative, repetitive, hollowed-out copies of ideas from the main series ( Super Saiyans? How about a LEDENDARY Super Saiyan? Freeza? How about a movie with his brother? Now we're in the android arc? Make a movie with those! SSJ2 Gohan a thing? Lets make Bojack so he do that again)

[FortuneSSJ]

All the pre BoG movies. Before I had a firm grasp of the main story they seemed cool enough, but now they just seem like derivative, unimaginative, repetitive, hollowed-out copies of ideas from the main series ( Freeza? How about a movie with his brother? )

How ironic is this one.

[fadeddreams5]

Frieza. I can forgive the Mecha Frieza thing, but he became a joke after that. F pretty much ruined his character for me.

Perhaps Super will redeem him.

[Kamiccolo9]

Bardock.

The Bardock special was pretty good, even if him gaining psychic powers was a bit of an asspull, but whatever. I really liked Bardock as a character in the special, especially his camaraderie with his team, while at the same time being dismissive of his son. It was very "Saiyan."

But now they've totally driven the character into the ground. Episode of Bardock is the single worst part of the franchise, an atrocity which I seriously hope is not the writer's one work, otherwise I don't see him/her getting a chance for anything else. It utterly ruins the concept of Goku's being a nobody that can work hard to surpass an elite, makes him the son of "the Legendary Super Saiyan," and is just a shitty story in general.

Dragon Ball Minus is a bit better, but is still by far Toriyama's single worst contribution to the franchise.

In general, all three of them were totally unnecessary stories, but at least Bardock: Father of Goku was remotely enjoyable. I suppose some may enjoy Minus for the "Toriyama Charm," but I must seriously question the taste of anybody who enjoys Episode of Bardock. It's just terrible.

And then Online got ahold of the character, and further drove him into the ground with the stupid "Evil Bardock" subplot.

And then Heroes started chucking Super Saiyan 3 at everyone.

I'd say that Bardock is worse than Broly when it comes to overexposure at this point. And at least Broly's movies are watchable.

So yeah, overexposure and lacklustre products have ruined Bardock for me. Just let the guy die already; that was the total point of his character anyway.

[DBZAOTA482]

Maybe Beerus. In BOG, he was a nice change of pace from previous movie villains who tend to be boring and one-dimensional but I got sick of him after Toriyama/TOEI started shoehorning him into key points of the story where he doesn't even belong and overplaying his childishness/food obsession.

[coola]

Fighting games: i was so happy, to be able to play as all forms of Buu, and go through all sagas, but now, i wish developers could try something different, like RPG on handhelds, instead of producing countless fighting games

[fadeddreams5]

Broly isn't even bad. His whole point was to market a super strong evil/mutant SSJ, and they succeeded. He's basically the Venom of the series. People just get mad cause he's popular.

Bardock, on the other hand, was just a regular saiyan who died a tragic death. All these power-ups are so random and out-of-place.

[samuraix123]

Broly. In the beginning before I got into reading forums and people's opinions on the show, I really liked Broly. to me he was this awesome power house guy who took a Kamehameha straight on and smiled! that's crazy! I loved the 1st movie and I was okay...ish with the second one but there was absolutely no need at all for him to come back again! But I started reading people's comments on how they want him back and to go SSJ3 and 4 and HIS POWER IS MAXIMUM!!!! and kinda just lost loved for the big guy lol


*If someone is reading this in the future and they make another Broly movie just know...I'll hate it.* haha

[Lord Beerus]

Bardock. For all the reasons Kamiccolo9 stated. Talk about a creators pet. I swear, If Bardock gets one more side-story...

Broly. He was such a badass to me as a kid. But the years have not been good to him. I just can't get over how one-note of character is. Especially when a large majority of the Western fandom hype him up and talk about him as if he is one of the best things to happen to the franchise. The obsessive fan-wanking he gets is intolerable. And don't get started on what Dragon Ball Heroes has been doing to him.

SSJ3. A cool transformation that quickly became old hat. But that's Dragon Ball Heroes fault if anything.

[ekrolo2]

Cell Saga, fun if you don't think about it but really is a giant turd if you put an ounce of thought into it. Even surface level examination shows just how bad it is.

[Lord Beerus]

Cell Saga, fun if you don't think about it but really is a giant turd if you put an ounce of thought into it. Even surface level examination shows just how bad it is.

Oh God, the Android/Cell arc has aged poorly. Even as a kid I was at time questioning how dumb the cast were but largely dismissed it because of how cool the fights and villains were. But now, as an adult, I kinda cringe at how stupid the heroes and villains were and it makes watching the arc more of a chore than anything. I know you have to keep the plot going in any way you can, but the asinine logic that was apparent in the arc was so damn obvious and glaring that it's hard to ignore.

Goku vs Cell and the Gohan/Cell Kamehameha beam clash were cool though.

[Soppa Saia People]

I forget her name but the woman he voiced bulma in Funis dub, I liked it at first but hearing it again it just all around bad, bad acting and a bad voice.

[Draconic]

The Piccolo vs 17 fight. I used to like it a lot being a Piccolo fan and all. But looking at it now it's kinda trash.

[ekrolo2]

Cell Saga, fun if you don't think about it but really is a giant turd if you put an ounce of thought into it. Even surface level examination shows just how bad it is.

Oh God, the Android/Cell arc has aged poorly. Even as I kid I was at time questioning how dumb the cast were but largely dismissed it because of how cool the fights and villains were. But now, as an adult, I kinda cringe at how stupid the heroes and villains were and it makes watching the arc more of a chore than anything. I know you have the keep the plot going in any way you can, but the asinine logic that was apparent in the arc was so damn obvious and glaring that it's hard to ignore.

Goku vs Cell and the Gohan/Cell Kamehameha beam clash were cool though.

Only times I seriously liked that arc tbh. I used to like Piccolo vs 17 but as Draconic said, its not very good either now.

[Doctor.]

Only times I seriously liked that arc tbh. I used to like Piccolo vs 17 but as Draconic said, its not very good either now.

You didn't like Trunks' introduction?

[ekrolo2]

Only times I seriously liked that arc tbh. I used to like Piccolo vs 17 but as Draconic said, its not very good either now.

You didn't like Trunks' introduction?

Well I kinda don't consider Trunks introduction a part of that arc even though it starts it. But if the Cell Saga is considered basically everything after Namek but before Buu, yeah I'll throw that as a moment I still like.

[DarkPrince_92]

Early seasons of the Funimation Z dub... christ. If it wasn't for the Faulconer Productions score, I wouldn't even watch.

[dbzfan7]

Kamiccolo covered Bardock perfectly. Nothing I can add.

Goku. I still love Goku, but it's starting to feel like he's the only one who can carry the plot. Many times in Z we had someone else carry the plot while he took a backseat. Vegeta is a sigh of relief sometimes as if it's not Goku, it's Vegeta now carrying the plot. Though I feel those two will be the only one's who can carry the plot now, while everyone else just does nothing of real worth, growth, or consequence. This has nothing to do with main characters or finishing off bad guys as people always seem to generalize this complaint with. It's simply sharing worth while spotlight. Beerus nor Whis carry the plot. They are a big part of it it seems, but they support Goku and Vegeta. I really hope those new characters are allowed to share plot carrying with Goku and Vegeta, which would make me happy. I don't even need Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, etc. I just want more people to be relevant enough to carry plot and character growth. The new characters of U6 seem to be my only hope for that.

I was never a huge fan of Beerus, but his shoehorning into where he doesn't belong is a pain in the ass.