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by Akira » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:04 pm
Hey, I have to add a couple of things.
The saiyans (Nappa and Vegeta at the very least) could raise thier battle powers easily. Nothing ever said they couldn't power up. What they couldn't do, nor could could any of Freeza's men do, was SUPRESS thier battle power. That is what astounded Vegeta about Goku, Krillin, Piccolo and Gohan. They could supress thier battle power to less than what thier base battle power was. THAT was something Nappa and Vegeta were incapable of, as was the ability to sense battle powers.
Nappa's base battle power was 4000, but when he powered up, he most certainly went higher. He just couldn't go lower than 4000, that much is true, unless he was beaten or something. Goku made a fool of him, yes, but then he powered up to his max of 8000 and was matching Goku toe to toe. Remember he blasts Goku with a mouth blast and Goku barely manages a swift Kamehameha to counteract it and say something to the affect of almost getting blow away by that if he hadn't reacted as fast as he did. Only something the same battle power as him or close to it could beat him.
Now, on the matter of Kaioken. There is no such thing as "Kaioken x1"
1x1=1, simple math. That whole "1.5" nonsense is just that, some fan perpetuated myth that has seeped around the internet for years.
Let me explain Kaioken. There is a "Basic" Kaioken if you will that you theoretically could call "Kaioken x1". It is a white aura, and basically is the learning phase of the technique. It is a visable aura that pushes thier power outward. This was as far as North Kaio (Or "King Kai" if you prefer) was ever able to get with the technique. He knew if he were stronger he could use the move to double his strength, but he was unable to get anywhere with the move he had developed. In one of the early episodes, the recap of the previous episodes shows a scene exclusive to that recap of North Kaio demonstrating the basic Kaioken with Goku following and doing the same thing. They are using it to zip around the small planet at amazing speeds and using thier power aura to blow through small brick walls as training.
Goku was able to do what North Kaio envisioned for the technique, take it a step further and double his battle power in an instant.
Anytime Goku yells "KAI-O-KEN!" and the red aura flares up, that is the main "Kaioken x2". Anytime he uses it without announcing anything higher, up to and including the fight with Commander Ginyu, it is a Kaioken x2. He is using the main move to double his battle power.
He uses a Kaioken x3 to match Vegeta's battle power during thier first confrontation, and Vegeta surpasses that with his powered up max during the Gallick-ho / Kamehamaha beam struggle. Goku has to use a Kaioken x4 to quadruple his strength to overpower Vegeta and win the beam battle.
Other higher uses are when he is fighting Freeza. Goku uses a Kaioken x10 to match Freeza at 25% power, and then a desperate Kaioken x20 after Freeza almost drowns him to match Freeza at 50% power. It was when Freeza went to 75% that Goku realized he didn't stand a chance. But up until then, Goku was maintaining the same battle power as Freeza by use of Kaioken during the battle. Goku at Kaioken x10 = Freeza at 25% power and Goku at Kaioken x20 = Freeza at 50% power.
After that, had he not become a Super Saiyan, it would have been over for him. Kaioken x20 was his desperation limit at that point, as Kaioken x4 had been his limit against Vegeta.
Hope that helps give you a better idea of how Kaioken works. It is my favorite technique in the entire dragonball series, so I have learned a lot about it.
Wasn't this thread necroposted 
