I want a story that will do Chi-Chi justice...

[DBZAOTA482]

I mean, all the Z-Warriors deserve to know Gohan wouldn't be able to function without her and I want a story that empathizes her importance to Goku (and maybe get her more appreciative qualities across... probably like her having the most heart out of the wives).... getting mad tired of that lame "world's strongest man... afraid of his wife" or whatever gag, it's become too associated with her character. I mean, Dragon Ball was never great with women but Chi-Chi deserves far more respect and appreciation from the series/fandom than it gives. Even the whole training Goten thing had potential for great development.... I mean, she was a fighter too (and a really damn good at that, especially for a non Z-Warrior) to her (and Goten's) character and spark a nice mother-son relationship but it ultimately come to nothing, really.

It also needs to happen so no more fan flaming you just for liking her... specifically Gohan "fans" and some Goku dick-riders... and yaoi fans. If not, I want them to give her a way to keep up with the main cast.

It sucks TOEI seems to be using their Chi-Chi in Super.

Do you want it too...?

[Chuquita]

It all comes down to the scenario-writers' preferences + whatever Toei's pushing at the time. That's why I think there's been so much VegeBul in Super. Somebody on the staff (or several somebodies?) either is/are a fan/fans or Toei thinks they'll pull more people in/sell more merch by pushing VegeBul.

At the very least, for the brief period in episode 1 where Gokû and Chi-Chi interacted in Super, they seemed comfortable with one another. Her Nami!Face in the opening throws me off, but I think that's a side-effect of having a good chunk of your animators having been so used to drawing One Piece. Toriyama has a version of "angry teethy face", but it definitely does not look like Oda's.

Chi-Chi wasn't in F at all, so any chances she has really are the upcoming filler episodes and maybe Uni 6. It would be nice to see her utilized better. I wonder if she can still do that forehead-beam, or if that was related more to the helmet she wore when blasting it.

[fadeddreams5]

As far as I can tell, Super is emphasizing on the most recognizable traits of the characters and not taking any risks when it comes to developing anyone. I don't see this changing until the Uni 6 saga when, hopefully, Toriyama has more creative control.

[DBZAOTA482]

It all comes down to the scenario-writers' preferences + whatever Toei's pushing at the time. That's why I think there's been so much VegeBul in Super. Somebody on the staff (or several somebodies?) either is/are a fan/fans or Toei thinks they'll pull more people in/sell more merch by pushing VegeBul.

At the very least, for the brief period in episode 1 where Gokû and Chi-Chi interacted in Super, they seemed comfortable with one another. Her Nami!Face in the opening throws me off, but I think that's a side-effect of having a good chunk of your animators having been so used to drawing One Piece. Toriyama has a version of "angry teethy face", but it definitely does not look like Oda's.

Chi-Chi wasn't in F at all, so any chances she has really are the upcoming filler episodes and maybe Uni 6. It would be nice to see her utilized better. I wonder if she can still do that forehead-beam, or if that was related more to the helmet she wore when blasting it.

... or she can develops Power Slugger like in Super DBZ, which is like a Keinzan.

[Hellspawn28]

I don't see it happening anytime soon sadly.

[Doctor.]

I honestly don't care. It's screen-time that could be better used on other characters.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

The way things are going in Super I can only see it getting "worse". I can already imagine how she's gonna react when Goku goes off to train with Whis, not to mention him going off adventuring another universe.

[fadeddreams5]

Super's the kind of show that would make Chi Chi the final villain after being possessed. Only after the Son family holds hands and envelop her with their pure-heartedness would she return to normal.

[Relenanator]

I honestly don't care. It's screen-time that could be better used on other characters.

This.

Chichi hasn't interested me since the last Budokai she fought in and she's not a very interesting character in general. I would rather have a story that does 18 or Videl some justice.

[ekrolo2]

I'd kill to have her finally call Goku out on being a shit dad but Super episode 1 pretty much showed her being okay with this so I doubt this'll happen. Its a shame because Goku's been deserving a massive verbal smack down for years now.

[DBZAOTA482]

I honestly don't care. It's screen-time that could be better used on other characters.

If it's not Yamcha, Ysjirobe, Pan, or Oob then I'd say fuck them.

I would rather have a story that does 18 or Videl some justice.

What can possibly be done with them now?

[Chuquita]

Re: 18 and Videl

While I'm not personally interested, 18 has a whole life behind her that she forgot about when Gero started experimenting on her and 17; it's known they were delinquents in their old lives, but that's about it, meaning you could go anywhere with it. If people were to spot her on the street and recognize her; people they had harmed, people who were after them for revenge, people who were after them seeking justice, or something about their parents or guardians who likely think 18 and 17 are dead by now. 18's father and mother, if they're alive, are grandparents and don't know it.


Videl is trickier to do something for, because they explored her surroundings quite a bit when she was introduced. I liked the Great Saiyaman 1 and Great Saiyaman 2 thing they had going on for a little while post-Buu, but that seems to have been dropped in Super.

[Lord Beerus]

Meh. I've been in-different to Chi Chi for quite a while. If she gets more screen-time, sure that'll be cool. But if she doesn't, it won't concern me. Chi Chi is one of those characters that are just "there".

[Relenanator]

I'd kill to have her finally call Goku out on being a shit dad

If this happened she might actually gain my respect as a character. However, I COULD be taking this out of context but I remember reading in an interview where Toriyama basically said that Goku views his family more as comrades/companions then actual family.

But putting that point aside, as much as I don't agree with Goku bailing on his family and being a general shit of a father - from his immature man child standpoint, I can easily see why he had no qualms about it. Chichi always seemed to have this over idealized expectation of what a husband should be like and Goku almost never seems to meet any of those expectations, hence why she always seems so put out and bitchy in a good portion of the Z arc. As for Goku, he doesn't take a lot of what she says and does very seriously and it wouldn't surprised me if he viewed her as just some nag that is constantly telling him and his son what to do.

Also, it's not like Goku isn't incapable of forming deep and profound bonds with others people, seeing that he's done so with Vegeta over time and possibly Pan as well. It's just obvious that he and Chichi aren't compatible as people or as partners.

As far as Gohan is concerned, I honestly feel that he's more Chichi's son then Goku's son. Since the first time we meet Gohan in the manga Goku says that that Chichi wan'ts him to be a scholar and it doesn't seem like Goku has much say in the matter. Chichi basically established that she was going to be the dominant parent and shape Gohan in whatever image she saw fit while Goku just played around with him and made sure he stayed safe.

Again, this isn't a justification or excuse for Goku being a bad parent (because believe me he is). This is simply a list of reason on WHY I think he's a bad parent.

[UltimateHammerBro]

I think there was a lot of potential in the character, but she was so badly treated by both Toriyama and Toei, almost from the very beginning, that trying to give her character development now would feel weird after so many years of pushing her into the sidelines. I'd rather have them bring Videl back to what she was.

[Cipher]

Real talk? Chi-Chi should divorce Goku and find a smart, motivated scholar-type she can be the strong woman for. Part of me believes this could even be played in a sweet, vaguely comedic Dragon Ball manner. It contradicts the end of the manga (which is maybe still in play?), but they really share nothing as people other than their strange backgrounds. Their marriage is based on admiration and a simple understanding of a childhood promise. It does seem they've come to love each other over the years, to whatever extent they can, but they do stand out among Dragon Ball couples together for more understandable personality or interaction-based reasons, however quirky they may be.

Dragon Ball talk? That won't happen.

Re: Videl: Please oh please bring back her and Gohan's shared superhero shtick. That was adorable and completely in-character. Either way, I hope some focus is given to her martial arts again at some point. Unlike with Gohan, it genuinely seemed, along with superheroics, to be a passion of hers.