Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball GT FUNimation inaccuracies?

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

So funimation made some weird scrip changes with Z that made inaccuracies and confusions, did they do tat with GT? I don't recall any big changes like what they did with instant transmition. Are people who solely watching the dub gonna be mis informed? I don't recall any changes but people say G's scrip was very very different. I can't eve think of Ball having changes,there doesn't even seam to be room to change things.

[ekrolo2]

They changed the timeline of events to being 10 years after the Buu Saga instead of the original 5, they give Goku lots of Superman speeches & dialogue. I believe the dub also explains why exactly the Black Star Dragon Balls cause the Earth to explode making it negative energy build up which kind of ties into the Shadow Dragons later.

[Kuririn Fan]

Dende telling Popo to get the first aid kit. 1st episode and they already messed up.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Yea the dende thing was a dub error and people blame GT for it:(

its funny because in Z they had a scene where on the lookout gotten and trunks were healed with a first aid kit XD

I know the timeskip thing but I disagree about the superman thing. People keep saying funimation made Goku into superman, I disagree. He's always fought for the earth and his friends. His fighting isn't solely for fun's sake,although that's a big part of it.

[Herms]

I've never seen Funi's GT dub, but their dub of DB has plenty of changes, while still being more accurate than their DBZ dub overall. Here's a random sampling from the Piccolo era, since that's what I'm most familiar with:

Goku actually says romantic stuff to Chi-Chi when proposing, instead of in the original with its "hey, wanna get hitched?" "yep!"

Piccolo talks about having fought "all over the universe", and Shen/Hero (see below) admits to Yamcha that he's an alien. Apparently Funi forgot that these characters don't learn their extraterrestrial origins until DBZ.

The King of Earth is introduced as if he were just a local king, rather than king of the entire planet like in the original. Eventually they go back on this and start talking about him as the king of the entire world midway through without explanation. Also, he's renamed "King Furry".

The Crane Hermit is called "Master Shen", for seemingly no reason. I think they probably just got him mixed up with Shen from the 23rd tournament. And on that note, the proper Shen himself ends up getting renamed "Hero", presumably because they had already used "Shen" for the Crane Hermit (but even so, why go with "Hero"? What's the connection there?). As a result, the big moment where Goku figures out Shen's true identity by spotting the connection between "Shen" and "Shenlong" has to be completely rewritten. I can't remember what they changed it to, though.

During Goku's heavenly training, in Japanese he goes around telling people he's training under God and usually gets laughed at. The dub has the whole "Guardian of Earth" thing going on, so instead Goku goes around telling people he's training under Popo...which is all halfway reasonable, until the episode with the Mousse family, where the mention of the name "Popo" prompts an incredibly long conversation about a squirrel the Mousse kids know. It's strange.

Karin's explanation of the difference between the Super Holy Water and Super Divine Water is botched so that you really can't tell what the difference is (in the original version, the former is perfectly ordinary water that's presented as a magic power-up, while the latter is an actual magical power-up and also a deadly poison).

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

I've never seen Funi's GT dub, but their dub of DB has plenty of changes, while still being more accurate than their DBZ dub overall. Here's a random sampling from the Piccolo era, since that's what I'm most familiar with:

Goku actually says romantic stuff to Chi-Chi when proposing, instead of in the original with its "hey, wanna get hitched?" "yep!"

Piccolo talks about having fought "all over the universe", and Shen/Hero (see below) admits to Yamcha that he's an alien. Apparently Funi forgot that these characters don't learn their extraterrestrial origins until DBZ.

The King of Earth is introduced as if he were just a local king, rather than king of the entire planet like in the original. Eventually they go back on this and start talking about him as the king of the entire world midway through without explanation. Also, he's renamed "King Furry".

The Crane Hermit is called "Master Shen", for seemingly no reason. I think they probably just got him mixed up with Shen from the 23rd tournament. And on that note, the proper Shen himself ends up getting renamed "Hero", presumably because they had already used "Shen" for the Crane Hermit (but even so, why go with "Hero"? What's the connection there?). As a result, the big moment where Goku figures out Shen's true identity by spotting the connection between "Shen" and "Shenlong" has to be completely rewritten. I can't remember what they changed it to, though.

During Goku's heavenly training, in Japanese he goes around telling people he's training under God and usually gets laughed at. The dub has the whole "Guardian of Earth" thing going on, so instead Goku goes around telling people he's training under Popo...which is all halfway reasonable, until the episode with the Mousse family, where the mention of the name "Popo" prompts an incredibly long conversation about a squirrel the Mousse kids know. It's strange.

Karin's explanation of the difference between the Super Holy Water and Super Divine Water is botched so that you really can't tell what the difference is (in the original version, the former is perfectly ordinary water that's presented as a magic power-up, while the latter is an actual magical power-up and also a deadly poison).

You should try funimation's GT. As a dub it isn't 100% accurate sure but the acting is superb. The best Funimation's ever pushed out. All the experience of ball and Z shows there. I watched ball subbed but never noticed the thing with crane hermit before. I don't know how that slipped my mind 0.o

And yeah you'll start of with a extra 5 years in the time gap in the dub for GT, but I strongly recommend watching it for a fun time.

[veggiechan]

Doesn't Goku never even say 10x Kamehameha in the Funi dub? I watched the Blue Water dub which had horrific VA but they got that much right (Also didn't have to wait several years to hear the dub with the original soundtrack instead of that ear poison by Menza). They were also a bit more accurate in calling Baby's people "Tsufuls" (sounded like soofull) instead of "Tuffles". "Oozaru" instead of Giant Ape, also called the Evil Dragons by their Chinese names...I'm sure there were other ways in which its dialogue was better than Funi's but the VA just makes it so hard to watch.

[Pokewhiz7]

Here's a list somebody made of all of the inaccuracies in FUNimation's dub of the first 16 episodes of GT: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 74#p983974

[nickzambuto]

Doesn't Goku never even say 10x Kamehameha in the Funi dub? I watched the Blue Water dub which had horrific VA but they got that much right (Also didn't have to wait several years to hear the dub with the original soundtrack instead of that ear poison by Menza). They were also a bit more accurate in calling Baby's people "Tsufuls" (sounded like soofull) instead of "Tuffles". "Oozaru" instead of Giant Ape, also called the Evil Dragons by their Chinese names...I'm sure there were other ways in which its dialogue was better than Funi's but the VA just makes it so hard to watch.

What's wrong with calling Oozaru Giant Ape when that's pretty much what it translates to?

[Valerius Dover]

They changed the timeline of events to being 10 years after the Buu Saga instead of the original 5, they give Goku lots of Superman speeches & dialogue. I believe the dub also explains why exactly the Black Star Dragon Balls cause the Earth to explode making it negative energy build up which kind of ties into the Shadow Dragons later.

The timeframe after the end of Z was never stated at all in the dub. Where does this information come from?

[Hellspawn28]

Funimation market GT as "10 years after the end of DBZ". Also the dub of GT did add a line where Pilaf talk about Piccolo and Kami being one namek. He would never know what the nameks are since no one on Earth does expect for the Z fighters, and their family and friends.

[Valerius Dover]

Ah, a marketing thing? Well, it still doesn't count since it's not mentioned in the series itself.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Funimation market GT as "10 years after the end of DBZ". Also the dub of GT did add a line where Pilaf talk about Piccolo and Kami being one namek. He would never know what the nameks are since no one on Earth does expect for the Z fighters, and their family and friends.

It's kind of like when Vegeta was surprised that piccolo even merged with Kami it's like Vegta...do you even know who Kami IS?

[successoroffate]

Funi's GT does not include the very taboo and hidden plot of Goku dying in the end. I have said this many times so one more is not going to hurt. GT episode 64, in the original, Muten Roshi gazes at Kuririn and Goku fighting one last time and wonders: "Goku...Are you..?" (implying that he had doubts whether Goku was still alive or not) While in Funi's he just goes: "These boys never change."

I think it was the most important and emotional part of GT and Funi just said "Nope, we're not doing it." So, GT was already hated by a lot of fans and Funi just decided to add even more for them to cut from and complain.

[90sDBZ]

I've always felt it makes a lot more sense for GT to be 10 years later, rather than 5 years, for various reasons such as:

-Bra being old enough to drive, and dressing and acting like a 16 year old would rather than an 11 year old kid
-Pan going out on dates, dressing like a teenager and displaying a notable lack of respect to her elders (particularly Goku who she previously had lots of respect for)
-Uub looking more like a 20 year old than a 15 year old

I know the "official" gap is 5 years, but that's never actually stated in the show itself. Personally, I prefer to go by what I actually see rather than an external source.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Funi's GT does not include the very taboo and hidden plot of Goku dying in the end. I have said this many times so one more is not going to hurt. GT episode 64, in the original, Muten Roshi gazes at Kuririn and Goku fighting one last time and wonders: "Goku...Are you..?" (implying that he had doubts whether Goku was still alive or not) While in Funi's he just goes: "These boys never change."

I think it was the most important and emotional part of GT and Funi just said "Nope, we're not doing it." So, GT was already hated by a lot of fans and Funi just decided to add even more for them to cut from and complain.

Maybe Funimation didn't notice the subtle ending Gt had? It does go past a lot of people's heads.

[successoroffate]

Funi's GT does not include the very taboo and hidden plot of Goku dying in the end. I have said this many times so one more is not going to hurt. GT episode 64, in the original, Muten Roshi gazes at Kuririn and Goku fighting one last time and wonders: "Goku...Are you..?" (implying that he had doubts whether Goku was still alive or not) While in Funi's he just goes: "These boys never change."

I think it was the most important and emotional part of GT and Funi just said "Nope, we're not doing it." So, GT was already hated by a lot of fans and Funi just decided to add even more for them to cut from and complain.

Maybe Funimation didn't notice the subtle ending Gt had? It does go past a lot of people's heads.

You're probably right but still a huge miss

[TheGreatness25]

"Does this mean I have to go back to school?" Worst... line... ever.

[WittyUsername]

"Does this mean I have to go back to school?" Worst... line... ever.

I remember back when GT was airing on Toonami, they used to include that line in at least one of the commercials, and even back then when I was still more familiar with the English dubs I remember thinking to myself "When did Goku go to school in the first place?"

[Hellspawn28]

It was during the time when cheesy lines like that where still common in American cartoons. Anime dubbing companies where still doing the same. Now these days, dubs are very faithful to the Japanese scripts and they don't do changes to the scripts just because be cool or corny.