The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Noah]

Redick vs. Alien leader from Ep 2 of Super

You mean Ledgic from GT? If so, he would just finger flick that alien in no time. GT Goku needed to transform in SSJ to defeat him, seeing how Base GT Goku is inexplicably and inconsistently stronger, I see that as a great feat.


New matches:

1 - Super Boo-tenks-han x Super Vegetto

Note: Considering that the fusion is permanent in Boo's body as he having absorbed the most powerful beings in this Arc at the same time, could that make a diference against Vegetto? How that would change his power?


2 - Saiyan Beyond God Goku x Super Boo-han

[DBZAOTA482]

Yamcha vs. Yajirobe (23rd Budokai)

[Lord Beerus]

Super Boo-tenks-han x Super Vegetto

Note: Considering that the fusion is permanent in Boo's body as he having absorbed the most powerful beings in this Arc at the same time, could that make a diference against Vegetto? How that would change his power?

Super Vegetto would still one shot Super Boo-tenks-han. Super Vegetto was so far ahead of Boohan, that not even the addition of SSJ3 Gotenks can close the gap.

Saiyan Beyond God Goku x Super Boo-han

SBG Goku finger flicks Super Boohan

Yamcha vs. Yajirobe (23rd Budokai)

Yamcha kicks Yajirobe's fat ass six ways to sunday. Yajrobe failed to even make it past the preliminaries stages of the 23rd WMAT, while Yajirobe was able to give Kami a run for his money.

[ahill1]

Yamcha vs. Yajirobe (23rd Budokai)

Yamcha beats Yajirobe easily; Yajirobe was defeated by Shen as a trash, while Shen praised Yamcha and even said he has potential. I have Yamcha much stronger than Piccolo Daimao, Yajirobe is not on the same level as Daimao Old in my opinion.

Yajirobe 672
Piccolo Daimao Old 720
Piccolo Daimao Young ( initial ) 900
Yamcha 1,080

[Lord Beerus]

Yajirobe 672
Piccolo Daimao Old 720
Piccolo Daimao Young ( initial ) 900
Yamcha 1,080

Bruh, those power levels...

You need read the manga, the guidebooks and re-calculate those numbers because you are way off. Like really way off.

[ZombieVito]

Metamoru Saiyan Saga Tenshincha(Fusion Dance between Saiyan Saga Yamcha and Saiyan Saga Tenshinhan) vs. Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Freeza Saga Base Goku(@ 50%) vs. Cell Games Saga Krillin
Kibitoshin vs. SSJ Gotenks(pre-RoSaT)

Vegeta stomps.
Goku stomps.
Kibitoshin gives Gotenks one hell of a fight but still loses.

New Matches:

1: Super Buu(SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta absorbed) vs. Beerus

2: Super Buu(SSGSS Goku,SSGSS Vegeta and Golden Freeza absorbed) vs. Whis and Beerus

3: Super Buu(Base God Goku and Base God Vegeta absorbed) vs. SSGSS Goku

4: Super Buu(Golden Freeza and SSGSS Goku absorbed) vs. Whis

5: Super Buu(SSJ3 Vegetto and Final Form Freeza absorbed) vs. Base God Goku(Revival of 'F')

6: SSJ Trunks(Post ROSAT) and SSJ Goten(Post ROSAT) vs. MSSJ Kid Gohan(Cell Games)

7: SSJ Gohan(Revival of 'F') vs. MSSJ Goku(Cell Games)

8: Piccolo(Mirai Trunks Saga) vs. Gohan(Android Saga)

9: Gohan(Mirai Trunks Saga) vs. 1rst Form Freeza(Namek)

10: Vegeta(Mirai Trunks Saga) vs. Base Goku(Post Healing Machine,No Kaioken)

Beerus.
Beerus alone can win.
Goku.
Whis.
Super Boo.
Kid Gohan wins with mild difficulty.
Gohan one shots.
Gohan one shots again.
Unless Gohan gets angry he loses.
Goku wins with mild difficulty.

Timeline: DBS

Base Goten vs Tenshinhan & Kuririn
Base Goten and Base Trunks vs Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamcha and Chaozu
Piccolo vs SSJ Trunks and Base Goten

Poor humans. Their only hope is the Shin Kikoho and that is slim.
Ditto.
Trunks alone wins with high difficulty.

New matches:

1 - Super Boo-tenks-han x Super Vegetto

Note: Considering that the fusion is permanent in Boo's body as he having absorbed the most powerful beings in this Arc at the same time, could that make a diference against Vegetto? How that would change his power?


2 - Saiyan Beyond God Goku x Super Boo-han

Vegetto still wins.
Exact equals. Boo wins.

Yamcha vs. Yajirobe (23rd Budokai)

Can go either way. Yamcha has an edge in power but Yajirobe has an edge in endurance. I'll give it to Yamcha because of his Sokidan.

[Relenanator]

How about Broly VS (whatever people consider the strongest) Buu.

[ahill1]

Can go either way. Yamcha has an edge in power but Yajirobe has an edge in endurance. I'll give it to Yamcha because of his Sokidan.

Come on man, did you not see the fight between Shen vs Yajirobe and Shen vs Yamcha? Yajirobe was defeated with only a blow of Shen, while Yamcha withstood several blows of Shen . Shen even praised Yamcha, something he didn't do with Yajirobe. It's more than obvious that Yamcha is much stronger than Yajirobe right now.

[Khin]

Timeline: DBS

Base Goten vs Tenshinhan & Kuririn
Base Goten and Base Trunks vs Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamcha and Chaozu
Piccolo vs SSJ Trunks and Base Goten

-Tenshinhan and Kuririn's only hope is it to hit him with Kikoho or Kienzan otherwise both of them gets stomped badly.
-Same as above
-Piccolo one shots Goten but got beaten by SSJ Trunks badly.

New matches:

1 - Super Boo-tenks-han x Super Vegetto

Note: Considering that the fusion is permanent in Boo's body as he having absorbed the most powerful beings in this Arc at the same time, could that make a diference against Vegetto? How that would change his power?


2 - Saiyan Beyond God Goku x Super Boo-han

-Vegetto still stomps.
-Goku gives Buuhan a brutal beating.
Buuhan<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Super Vegetto=<Enraged SSJ2 Vegeta<<SSJ2 Vegetto<<<<<SSJ3 Vegetto<<<<<<<Final Form Freeza<<<Saiyan Beyond God Goku.

How about Broly VS (whatever people consider the strongest) Buu.

-Even the weakest version of Majin Buu(Mr.Buu) can beat Broly without exhorting any effort whatsoever.

[nickzambuto]

Vegeta goes Super Saiyan 3 against Kid Boo. No interference until one of them dies. Who wins?

Vegeta goes Super Saiyan 3 inside Boo. Together with Goku they manage to save their friends and escape without having to pull Fat Boo out, meaning we're back to regular Super Boo. Can Goku and Vegeta together beat him without fusion?

[Bullza]

In both cases being in a living body they wouldn't have the time necessary in order to win so Buu for both.


RoF Frieza in his First Form runs the gauntlet how far does he get

Super Perfect Cell
Kid Buu
Mystic Gohan
Gohan Buu
Super Vegito

[Sora Saiyan]

In both cases being in a living body they wouldn't have the time necessary in order to win so Buu for both.

RoF Freeza in his First Form runs the gauntlet how far does he get

Super Perfect Cell
Kid Buu
Mystic Gohan
Gohan Buu
Super Vegito

He makes it past Kid Boo then loses badly to Gohan. Unless Super shows anything different I place First Form Freeza at Super Buu level.

[Battousai]

Timeline: DBS

Base Goten vs Tenshinhan & Kuririn
Base Goten and Base Trunks vs Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamcha and Chaozu
Piccolo vs SSJ Trunks and Base Goten

-Tenshinhan and Kuririn's only hope is it to hit him with Kikoho or Kienzan otherwise both of them gets stomped badly.
-Same as above
-Piccolo one shots Goten but got beaten by SSJ Trunks badly.

New matches:

I seriously doubt SSJ Trunks would beat Piccolo. In the Buu saga, when Gotenks fusion ends, shortly before Gohan appears to fight Super Buu, Piccolo descends to the ground and says something like this "I've decided to fight, even if I know I can't win". Trunks says something like this "Piccolo-san, you aren't a regular fighter, perhaps if we team up, we'll have a chance"
In the Buu saga, when Super Buu absorbs Gotenks and Piccolo to fight Gohan, after the Gotenks fusion ends, Piccolo's cape "takes the upper hand".

This pretty much states, in my opinion, that his level is one step above the kids.

[nickzambuto]

In both cases being in a living body they wouldn't have the time necessary in order to win so Buu for both.


RoF Freeza in his First Form runs the gauntlet how far does he get

Super Perfect Cell
Kid Buu
Mystic Gohan
Gohan Buu
Super Vegito

People really exaggerate how weak Gohan got in Resurrection 'F'. There's really no indication at all to put him at these levels people throw out like Z-Sword Gohan level or even Namek Super Saiyan level. All we know is that he lost some power and was no longer the "Mightiest of Warriors" with all his latent power unlocked, but the Super Saiyan transformation brings out a portion of the user's latent power anyway, so why couldn't Super Saiyan Gohan still be at the apex of his strength? The movie certainly treats things like he is, he's by far the strongest warrior on Earth. Basically without a clear indication of how much power Gohan has lost, there is no reason to believe it's any more than... some.

TL;DR: RoF Gohan really wasn't much weaker than Ultimate Gohan. Although when Freeza killed him he was at base and not Super Saiyan, but then again... stopping the dude's heart with one blow is a gigantic power discrepancy. Think about all the other great stompings in the series; Mummy vs Yamcha, King Piccolo vs Goku and later Roshi, Drum vs Tien, Freeza vs Vegeta, Goku vs 19, Vegeta vs Cell, Gohan vs Cell -- in none of these fights was the opponent killed after the first blow. So I have to believe that with a bit more exertion, first form Freeza could end Ultimate Gohan just the same.

Now Vegetto? That's a guy who can force Freeza into his second form.

[Captain Space]

Yajirobe 672
Piccolo Daimao Old 720
Piccolo Daimao Young ( initial ) 900
Yamcha 1,080

o.o

How do you end up with 23rd Budokai Yamcha as stronger than beginning-of-Z Goku?!

Not to mention, Piccolo's power against Raditz was only 400-ish, and he was much stronger than Daimao by then...

New matches:

2 - Saiyan Beyond God Goku x Super Boo-han

This Goku should be at least equivalent to base BoG Goku, so not too far behind SSJG, sooo still leagues ahead of Vegetto, so Goku wins pretty easy.

How about Broly VS (whatever people consider the strongest) Buu.

Literally any Buu could stomp Broly. There's nothing whatsoever that places him any higher than low SSJ2 tier if even that (first movie, power surpassed by tired FPSSJ Goku + little scraps of leftover energy from everyone else, all the saiyans in base and the implication that Piccolo was able to donate less than Vegeta, so...not too far above FPSSJ. Second movie, defeated by the combined power of three SSJ1's, two of them very tired.)

Vegeta goes Super Saiyan 3 against Kid Boo. No interference until one of them dies. Who wins?

Vegeta goes Super Saiyan 3 inside Boo. Together with Goku they manage to save their friends and escape without having to pull Fat Boo out, meaning we're back to regular Super Boo. Can Goku and Vegeta together beat him without fusion?

In both cases Vegeta is way too inexperienced with the form and doesn't manage to retain it for long, Buu wins both matches (since we know SSJ3 Goku alone can't take Super Buu).

[Hugo Boss]

Saiyan Beyond God Goku x Super Boo-han

I guess you mean Goku's regular state from Freeza's movie. If so, I think he has a tough challenge against Majin Boo. He may lack the kind of advantage that could prevent Boo from regenerating himself as the fight progress though. I bet on Boo.

[Lord Beerus]

Saiyan Beyond God Goku x Super Boo-han

I guess you mean Goku's regular state from Freeza's movie. If so, I think he has a tough challenge against Majin Boo. He may lack the kind of advantage that could prevent Boo from regenerating himself as the fight progress though. I bet on Boo.

Umm... what? You do know that the difference in power between SBG Goku and SSJG Goku is minimal at best. And the power of SSJG Goku is far above anything that Super Vegetto could ever dish out. And besides, Majin Boo regenration can literally stop working if he beaten very badly . SSJ3 Gotenks vs Super Boo is proof of this.

[Noah]

Umm... what? You do know that the difference in power between SBG Goku and SSJG Goku is minimal at best. And the power of SSJG Goku is far above anything that Super Vegetto could ever dish out. And besides, Majin Boo regenration can literally stop working if he beaten very badly . SSJ3 Gotenks vs Super Boo is proof of this.

I don't think it was implied that the difference in power between SBG Goku and SSJG Goku is minimal, so what would be SSGSS multiplier if most people say here that SSGSS is not too far above SSJG?

I think Saiyan Beyond God is Goku that got pretty strong at Base, but not as strong as SSJG and then for him draw this power out, he needs to use SSGSS

-Vegetto still stomps.

I know that probably would make no diffence against Vegetto, But my main question is:

How much would affect in Super Boo power having both SSJ3 Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan absorbed?

Even the weakest version of Majin Buu(Mr.Buu) can beat Broly without exhorting any effort whatsoever.

I don't know... How much is Mr. Boo compared to what he was as Fat Boo? I mean something like:

Fat Boo (100%)
Gray Boo (60%)
Mr. Boo (40%)

Right? So as Fat Boo he stomps a SSJ2-tier with ease but would he still stomp being that weaker as stated above?

Any SSJ2-tier still loses too Mr. Boo?

[Doctor.]

In both cases being in a living body they wouldn't have the time necessary in order to win so Buu for both.


RoF Freeza in his First Form runs the gauntlet how far does he get

Super Perfect Cell
Kid Buu
Mystic Gohan
Gohan Buu
Super Vegito

Stops at Kid Boo, in my opinion.

[ahill1]

Umm... what? You do know that the difference in power between SBG Goku and SSJG Goku is minimal at best. And the power of SSJG Goku is far above anything that Super Vegetto could ever dish out. And besides, Majin Boo regenration can literally stop working if he beaten very badly . SSJ3 Gotenks vs Super Boo is proof of this.

I don't think it was implied that the difference in power between SBG Goku and SSJG Goku is minimal, so what would be SSGSS multiplier if most people say here that SSGSS is not too far above SSJG?

I think Saiyan Beyond God is Goku that got pretty strong at Base, but not as strong as SSJG and then for him draw this power out, he needs to use SSGSS

-Vegetto still stomps.

I know that probably would make no diffence against Vegetto, But my main question is:

How much would affect in Super Boo power having both SSJ3 Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan absorbed?

Even the weakest version of Majin Buu(Mr.Buu) can beat Broly without exhorting any effort whatsoever.

I don't know... How much is Mr. Boo compared to what he was as Fat Boo? I mean something like:

Fat Boo (100%)
Gray Boo (60%)
Mr. Boo (40%)

Right? So as Fat Boo he stomps a SSJ2-tier with ease but would he still stomp being that weaker as stated above?

Any SSJ2-tier still loses too Mr. Boo?

I think Mr. Boo is stronger than SSJ2 tier in general; I have Goku SSJ2/Majin Vegeta SSJ2 at 75% of Mr.Boo; If they fought together they could win? I don't know, I don't think.

Gohan SSJ/SSJ2 post Z sword could defeat Mr.Boo IMO.