Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by irreality » Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:24 pm

I meant the *audience* doesn't need to rely on the movies.

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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:28 pm

irreality wrote:I meant the *audience* doesn't need to rely on the movies.
We've got cinematic universes that are spread around multiple different mediums these days with people who actively watch them. I really doubt anyone could possibly be confused by this order: DB, Z or Kai, BoG, RoF, Super (set after RoF). Especially since this filler arc would begin with a few minute long recap of the films as Kai did in its introduction.
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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by irreality » Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:38 pm

It is just simpler and cleaner. It is such a simple and elegant solution to filler I don't understand what you are missing. They might be editing in Champa in RoF and changing the ending of BoG (they have a little, now), so it is easy to do all those minor changes for fluidity all in one go. All the solutions you are proposing are just more work, clunkier and more likely to backfire.

Anyway. I'm tired of having the same argument as to why they chose to retell the movies. It is a reasonable logistical decision for *many* reasons, even if people want to nitpick about them. I understand those who are bored with it and wish to skip it, but I can't see why they can't see that simply because they personally don't like a decision, it doesn't make it a bad one, financially and logistically.

What Toyotaro is doing: we might still see all those scenes in Super eventually. The purpose of the manga is there to tease us with future events.

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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by Mewzard » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:13 pm

I peek in on Super occasionally, but I'm waiting for an official release before I watch it full time (good quality official releases are always good by me). Hopefully FUNi will announce something soon (a stream, DVD/Blu Ray, a dub, something).
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Mewzard wrote:I peek in on Super occasionally, but I'm waiting for an official release before I watch it full time (good quality official releases are always good by me). Hopefully FUNi will announce something soon (a stream, DVD/Blu Ray, a dub, something).
I'm kinda in the same boat here. I'll skim through parts of a new episode and see what people are saying about it but that's about it. I'm not sure if I'll even see the dub for it. It actually depresses me that I'm not longer all giddy for Super :(

Yeah Super has done some new stuff but it's not enough to win me over because
1. I've already seen it with BoG

And most importantly,

2. This doesn't really give me the same feeling Dragon Ball, DBZ, BoG and even RF gave me. It doesn't have that same sense of magic to me.

I'm just waiting for the Uni6 arc and am gonna watch BoG and RF to catch up.

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Post by SylentEcho » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:39 am

Mewzard wrote:I peek in on Super occasionally, but I'm waiting for an official release before I watch it full time (good quality official releases are always good by me). Hopefully FUNi will announce something soon (a stream, DVD/Blu Ray, a dub, something).
That could take a long time. The TV rips are of pretty good quality.

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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by Pretorious » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:47 pm

I wish I had the self-control to stop watching the series.

I was thrilled when I learned a new series was coming. I didn't read anything about it, because I hate spoilers. I loved BoG, and wasn't too keen on RoF, but it had solid redeeming qualities, and I was pumped to see what would happen after that.

I didn't know Super was going to rehash the movies until I started watching the show, and when I realized that, my heart sank. Utterly unbelievable. I've tried to get enjoyment out of it since then, and it just upsets me every week.

I am one of those people who was looking forward to a DB series of new material that would be filler-free and reasonably paced, but that isn't what Super is at all. If Toei just wanted to make sure people knew the events of the movies before starting the new story, they could have just recapped them in flashbacks. But because they didn't, it's clear that they're not that interested in putting a reasonable effort into the series. It's less work to rewrite the movies than to make new stories, but come on! Even GT could muster that much! It didn't rewrite the original Z movies! Why not have Super just show what happens before between and after the new movies?

I think Super is damaging to the franchise, and since this is how Toei is handling it, I just wish it didn't exist.

They could have kept enthusiasm for the series alive by continuing with movies of the quality of the last two, or through manga with original content, or by doing SOMETHING else than overwriting the movies. And they remove many quality moments from BoG on top of it? It just...blows my mind.

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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by SylentEcho » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:15 am

After the last two episodes, it's patently obvious to me, that whoever isn't watching Super, is missing out.

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Post by Draconic » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:35 am

SylentEcho wrote:After the last two episodes, it's patently obvious to me, that whoever isn't watching Super, is missing out.
I will have to agree. Even if they might turn out to not like what they see, they should actually see it first. It is worth at least that.
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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by shinmaru » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:42 pm

Not to exaggerate, but I watched most episode 2 times, some even 3 times

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Post by Ajay » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:55 pm

shinmaru wrote:Not to exaggerate, but I watched most episode 2 times, some even 3 times
Huh, now that I think about it, I guess I do the same. Once via a stream, once again via an HD raw, and then again when an accurate sub is out.
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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by Blade » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:33 pm

I normally watch each twice, first via a HD raw first thing on Sunday and again when Dragon Team get their sub out. I watch it live when I can, but I'm usually out at 1am on a Saturday.
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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by Doctor. » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:35 pm

I watch each episode at least three times, it's rare when I just watch it twice (live and then subbed), but episodes #8 and #12 have made me do that. Normally I watch it live, then watch it again once the raw comes out, then again once speedsubs start coming out, and then a bunch more times depending on how much I like the episode once DragonTeam releases their version. There's a lot of interesting character stuff in Super so far I just adore.

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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:58 pm

I watch each episode once. Specifically, the subbed version because I don't understand Japanese. I can't imagine me rewatching any of these episodes, so far. Well, besides #5 for the lulz.
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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:02 pm

shinmaru wrote:Not to exaggerate, but I watched most episode 2 times, some even 3 times
Same here. I watch each episode with fast subs first, and then with the good subs. But the first episode, I saw it in raw as well. I prefer the movie version, and I don't like a lot of the changes they made, but I still find it enjoyable.
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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by precita » Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:12 pm

I've watched every episode, but in the future I don't know if I'll ever rewatch the series. I can just watch the Battle of Gods movie and save myself about 5 hours.

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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:51 am

I follow it for reference, but I don't plan on rewatching it after first airing. Its just really boring and nothing interesting at all happened in the first arc. Granted it has its moments but I watch those when they're cut out of the rest of the episodes as clips on youtube. There just isn't anything keeping me into it other than curiosity. Thus far I give it just a mediocre review with really low expectations.
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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by Saiga » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:16 am

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shinmaru wrote:Not to exaggerate, but I watched most episode 2 times, some even 3 times
Same here. I watch each episode with fast subs first, and then with the good subs. But the first episode, I saw it in raw as well. I prefer the movie version, and I don't like a lot of the changes they made, but I still find it enjoyable.
Started with fast subs, rewatched with good subs when I learned of them. Then due to delays, decided to watch fast subs while waiting for good subs, but I can't bring myself to watch the episodes twice. I don't care enough about this series for faithful dialogue, because it hasn't made much of a difference in what I've seen so far (the fast subs seem to be getting more tolerable, as well).

To answer the thread question, I haven't stopped, because keeping up weekly is pretty easy. I have literally fallen asleep during episodes twice now, though, and I find the entire thing extremely boring. If I were to fall behind for whatever reason I don't think I can catch up.

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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by Scott » Sun Oct 11, 2015 5:07 pm

The only reason i am still watching it is because i love the franchise. If Dragon Ball started with Super i would have stopped watching by now.

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Re: Anybody already stopped watching Super?

Post by Pretorious » Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:37 am

Well, I think I've reached my saturation point with this show. I tried to watch the recent episode with Mr. Satan claiming he saved the world from Beerus, and I just couldn't stay with it. I tried.

This episode was as bad as the GT episodes with those dancing Para brothers (that and the whole Luud arc were the bottom of the barrel for me). There's only so many times I can watch a rehash of a rehash of a rehash of a rehash of the same jokes. It's not funny anymore. It's lazy. I don't feel like the people writing these stories care about the franchise. I think they're putting forth the absolute minimum effort to get by. And they're making me, well...not care less, but just upset, I guess. And too disappointed and disheartened to go on. DBS makes me embarrassed to be a DB fan. The worst part is, I can't even blame the badness on the localization of the show, like I could when Funimation was putting out season 3 in the US. Now the source material is actually bad (and the English dub has gotten good? What confusing times!).

From this point on, I may just skim episodes. It just makes me too unhappy to give it any more than that. Maybe when the U6 arc rolls around I'll pay a bit more attention.

I guess this is how Star Wars fans felt when The Phantom Menace came out. The similarity is kind of eerie. Maybe at some point in the future, someone inspired will come along and revive the franchise. I'm not expecting that for a long time though.

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