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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:11 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:I always thought it was possible for Vegeta or Goku to go above Gohan, but it would take a shit load of time (before the God form was introduced). I still don't understand how Vegeta gets a random rage boost (which was a Gohan only trait and Vegeta never had before) and magically multiplies his strength more than SSJ3 Goku. I thought the whole Kid Boo ending was Vegeta accepting Goku was #1 as he could never surpass him and accepted Goku as a friend. Then we have this random statement which can't make sense as Goku's God form was not enough to beat Bils (but he was close to him I hear) so he realistically could catch up to Bils eventually. For Vegeta its literally impossible for him to catch up to Bils without a god form as the god form transcends Vegetto's multiplier. No way with SSJ2 or 3 could he catch up. I have Goku and Gohan tied as my favourite characters and can admit when there surpassed when it makes sense. This just seems completely random.
Yeah I know what you mean and this is coming from a Vegeta fan. It does seem a bit random and ludicrous that Vegeta all of the sudden got so damn powerful but I guess we'll have to wait and see what sparked such a power up out of him. I guess a pure heart just gave Vegeta a f*** ton of power.
If Vegeta got SSJG I would totally accept his superiority without question, but giving him a Gohan rage boost makes no sense at all as he never showed this before. How come slapping Bulma gives him this, but during the Super Boo and Kid Boo fight the thought of Majin Boo killing his entire family doesn't. If the pure heart thing were true(I know your joking) then everyone including Yamcha would be powerful okay not Yamcha that's being way to generous.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:12 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:I always thought it was possible for Vegeta or Goku to go above Gohan, but it would take a shit load of time (before the God form was introduced). I still don't understand how Vegeta gets a random rage boost (which was a Gohan only trait and Vegeta never had before) and magically multiplies his strength more than SSJ3 Goku. I thought the whole Kid Boo ending was Vegeta accepting Goku was #1 as he could never surpass him and accepted Goku as a friend. Then we have this random statement which can't make sense as Goku's God form was not enough to beat Bils (but he was close to him I hear) so he realistically could catch up to Bils eventually. For Vegeta its literally impossible for him to catch up to Bils without a god form as the god form transcends Vegetto's multiplier. No way with SSJ2 or 3 could he catch up. I have Goku and Gohan tied as my favourite characters and can admit when there surpassed when it makes sense. This just seems completely random.
Yeah I know what you mean and this is coming from a Vegeta fan. It does seem a bit random and ludicrous that Vegeta all of the sudden got so damn powerful but I guess we'll have to wait and see what sparked such a power up out of him. I guess a pure heart just gave Vegeta a f*** ton of power.
If Vegeta got SSJG I would totally accept his superiority without question, but giving him a Gohan rage boost makes no sense at all as he never showed this before. How come slapping Bulma gives him this, but during the Super Boo and Kid Boo fight the thought of Majin Boo killing his entire family doesn't. If the pure heart thing were true(I know your joking) then everyone including Yamcha would be powerful okay not Yamcha that's being way to generous.
Maybe Vegeta's true power was emotion locked this whole time, who knows.
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Post by Chuquita » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:16 pm

I can definitely buy Vegeta's hidden power being emotion-locked. He's not exactly the type to let all his emotions out on display (what with his pride).
As to how well he could do unlocking that power permanently is up to him.

Also, I think it's a nice balance. Vegeta has something ridiculous happen to him - being forced to entertain Birusu, and Vegeta has something awesome happen to him - discovering he's got the hidden power to potentially surpass Goku after all.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:25 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Maybe Vegeta's true power was emotion locked this whole time, who knows.
The thing is that sounds like a bad fanfiction idea. If it was hinted in the series that would make sense, but its not. I'm not saying its bad to get really strong, but its only bad if its poorly explained. Its like a fanboy wrote that because they wanted Vegeta to have some significance besides a power up. I would have liked him and Goku to have gone God form and tag teamed Bils.

I thought half Saiyans only have hidden potential as stated since the beginning of Z. The only full blood thing I have seen is when they can survive their body being destroyed when going temporarily beyond their limit.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:26 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:Oh I think quite necessarily. The fact that he said Goku and Vegeta may pose a considerable threat in the near future tells me both Vegeta and Goku are a lot stronger than Gohan.
He sees Goku & Vegeta having potential to cause them trouble in the future. If Bills had said that Goten & Trunks could pose a considerable thread in the future, would that make them stronger than Goku, Vegeta, or Gohan? No, they just have the potential to surpass them later. Maybe he figured that Gohan doesn't have the will to get stronger & stronger, while Goku & Vegeta never give up on trying to get stronger.

As for Vegeta's power being emotionally locked because he was selfish before (with his pride and stuff), I'll have it in my head canon, until we get official confirmation (if ever).
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:28 pm

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:Maybe Vegeta's true power was emotion locked this whole time, who knows.
The thing is that sounds like a bad fanfiction idea. If it was hinted in the series that would make sense, but its not. I'm not saying its bad to get really strong, but its only bad if its poorly explained. Its like a fanboy wrote that because they wanted Vegeta to have some significance besides a power up. I would have liked him and Goku to have gone God form and tag teamed Bils.
That would have been pretty cool but oh well. Maybe in the sequel, if we ever get one. Meh I wouldn't call emotion locked bad fan fiction but a better explanation would be nice. You got any ideas?
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TheMightyOzaru wrote:Oh I think quite necessarily. The fact that he said Goku and Vegeta may pose a considerable threat in the near future tells me both Vegeta and Goku are a lot stronger than Gohan.
He sees Goku & Vegeta having potential to cause them trouble in the future. If Bills had said that Goten & Trunks could pose a considerable thread in the future, would that make them stronger than Goku, Vegeta, or Gohan? No, they just have the potential to surpass them later. Maybe he figured that Gohan doesn't have the will to get stronger & stronger, while Goku & Vegeta never give up on trying to get stronger.

As for Vegeta's power being emotionally locked because he was selfish before (with his pride and stuff), I'll have it in my head canon, until we get official confirmation (if ever).
Umm yeah I would say Goten and Trunks are stronger than the ladder if someone who beat Goku's God from said they would pose a considerable threat in the near future... they never did though so they aren't. Either way, if they have the potential to surpass them in the near future, they will be stronger, if they already aren't, so they are stronger generally speaking.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:31 pm

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:Maybe Vegeta's true power was emotion locked this whole time, who knows.
The thing is that sounds like a bad fanfiction idea. If it was hinted in the series that would make sense, but its not. I'm not saying its bad to get really strong, but its only bad if its poorly explained. Its like a fanboy wrote that because they wanted Vegeta to have some significance besides a power up. I would have liked him and Goku to have gone God form and tag teamed Bils.
That would have been pretty cool but oh well. Maybe in the sequel, if we ever get one. Meh I wouldn't call emotion locked bad fan fiction but a better explanation would be nice. You got any ideas?
Not really as the idea is just ridiculous. My idea would be to write that out entirely, or change it to Vegeta being the most persistent, or durable as that has been shown in his fights all the time. He would keep getting up and fighting on even when Bils thinks he is done and surprising Bils. That would make more sense for Vegeta. Vegeta then could be like the leader and encourage Gohan and the others to get up and fight.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:35 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Not really as the idea is just ridiculous. My idea would be to write that out entirely, or change it to Vegeta being the most persistent, or durable as that has been shown in his fights all the time. He would keep getting up and fighting on even when Bils thinks he is done and surprising Bils. That would make more sense for Vegeta. Vegeta then could be like the leader and encourage Gohan and the others to get up and fight.
The thing is though, Birusu said they will pose a threat in the near future. Vegeta will be stronger, if he isn't already.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:38 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:Not really as the idea is just ridiculous. My idea would be to write that out entirely, or change it to Vegeta being the most persistent, or durable as that has been shown in his fights all the time. He would keep getting up and fighting on even when Bils thinks he is done and surprising Bils. That would make more sense for Vegeta. Vegeta then could be like the leader and encourage Gohan and the others to get up and fight.
The thing is though, Birusu said they will pose a threat in the near future. Vegeta will be stronger, if he isn't already.
If he gets a god form, then that is believable. Maybe Bils believed he would eventually get a god form. If you believe in the Goku X Vegeta or the Perhaps greater then SSJ4 terms that Vegetto has in the SEG and anime comic guide, then its clear that Vegeta needs a god form to compete.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:41 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:Not really as the idea is just ridiculous. My idea would be to write that out entirely, or change it to Vegeta being the most persistent, or durable as that has been shown in his fights all the time. He would keep getting up and fighting on even when Bils thinks he is done and surprising Bils. That would make more sense for Vegeta. Vegeta then could be like the leader and encourage Gohan and the others to get up and fight.
The thing is though, Birusu said they will pose a threat in the near future. Vegeta will be stronger, if he isn't already.
If he gets a god form, then that is believable. Maybe Bils believed he would eventually get a god form. If you believe in the Goku X Vegeta or the Perhaps greater then SSJ4 terms that Vegetto has in the SEG and anime comic guide, then its clear that Vegeta needs a god form to compete.
That is unless Vegeta has a f*** ton of hidden power for whatever reason. I don't see Vegeta getting a God form any time soon and I don't really see Birusu seeing that either. If Vegeta does get one, cool :mrgreen: .
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Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:45 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:That is unless Vegeta has a f*** ton of hidden power for whatever reason. I don't see Vegeta getting a God form any time soon and I don't really see Birusu seeing that either. If Vegeta does get one, cool :mrgreen: .
Why not. If you just need 6 pure hearted saiyans then he could just get it the same way as Goku. He could get it anytime before or after Pan is born, or at least when she would know what she is doing if she can't do it as a fetus or baby.
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Post by Chuquita » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:46 pm

After seeing Hujio's tweet about the BOG summary getting long; out of curiosity, how long is the summary currently? :3 Like in either pages or words?
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:51 pm

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:That is unless Vegeta has a f*** ton of hidden power for whatever reason. I don't see Vegeta getting a God form any time soon and I don't really see Birusu seeing that either. If Vegeta does get one, cool :mrgreen: .
Why not. If you just need 6 pure hearted saiyans then he could just get it the same way as Goku. He could get it anytime before or after Pan is born, or at least when she would know what she is doing if she can't do it as a fetus or baby.
I hope he does get a God form. I still think he currently surpassed Gohan by a good margin but still, I would like to see a SSJ God Vegeta.
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dbzfan7 wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:That is unless Vegeta has a f*** ton of hidden power for whatever reason. I don't see Vegeta getting a God form any time soon and I don't really see Birusu seeing that either. If Vegeta does get one, cool :mrgreen: .
Why not. If you just need 6 pure hearted saiyans then he could just get it the same way as Goku. He could get it anytime before or after Pan is born, or at least when she would know what she is doing if she can't do it as a fetus or baby.
I hope he does get a God form. I still think he currently surpassed Gohan by a good margin but still, I would like to see a SSJ God Vegeta.
I think that's impossible for him in this movies time frame. In the EOZ I still think he hasn't, but don't completely rule it out. I'd say by Gt's time frame of 5-10 years after Z (Japanese/English frame) He would be around Gohan without SSJ3 and stronger if he has it. But that's my opinion.
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Post by Ryuman » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:02 pm

Doesn't the film's soundtrack come out in three days? Are there any samples up yet somewhere or something?

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Post by VyeRo » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:09 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Why not. If you just need 6 pure hearted saiyans then he could just get it the same way as Goku. He could get it anytime before or after Pan is born, or at least when she would know what she is doing if she can't do it as a fetus or baby.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:21 pm

I suspect the summary should be done by Tuesday, or Wednesday at the latest.
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Post by Herms » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:21 pm

The summary was 9 Word pages long when last I saw it.
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Post by fogdark » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:22 pm

Herms wrote:The summary was 9 Word pages long when last I saw it.
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