Live Action Movie Discussion Thread

[JAPPO]

I kinda like Chatwin in that picture.
Yes, he isn't very buff and that's disappointing. But his face, hair, and orange shirt are pretty Goku-ish. How would Goku feel if he was in school? I mean the original Goku? I bet he wouldn't like it.
You gotta remember he's a teen not a 11 year old in this movie.

His face and hair look like Goku's? How? He has rather short hair, Goku, if you remember does not. His facial features are nothing like Goku's either (not that I expected much).

And he's wearing an orange shirt - that should not be something we should even be pointing out. "He's wearing orange, just like in the cartoon!" Good god fuck! Seriously? This movie is going to be a terrible adaptation, and no one, no one, can make a case otherwise.

Yeah, he's not eleven, that's stupid change as well, still not as big a change as I'm unpopular and in highschool, I hope Yamcha doesn't beat up me and Teto again - also I have more than a vague understanding of the differences between boys and girls.

.... you sound like a douche in this post, buddy.

"NO ONE NO ONE NO ONE CAN SAY THIS IS A GOOD MOVIE."

Sure, I mean, it isn't even released yet and so far the cast and crew are decent, but sure let's go with that.

[desirecampbell]

.... you sound like a douche in this post, buddy.
"NO ONE NO ONE NO ONE CAN SAY THIS IS A GOOD MOVIE."
Sure, I mean, it isn't even released yet and so far the cast and crew are decent, but sure let's go with that.

"Good movie" is different from "good adaptation" - I made a point of saying "adaptation". It may be a good movie. I'm not saying that can't happen (it probably won't, but we won't know until it's done) I'm saying that if the information we've recieved already is true, then the idea of making this Dragonball - but live action has gone out the window. Nothing about this movie has anything that wouldn't make just as much sense changing "Goku" to "John Connor" and "Namekkians" to "Martians".

The characters (what few remain) are wholly different. And completely new characters are added where old ones would have fit.
The setting (apparently real-world Earth, and a highschool) is completely changed
The plot is, basically, a re-hash of Movie 4. And Movie 4 sucked ass the first time.

[JAPPO]

How does it not sound like dragon ball? Aside from Goku being in high school and Krillin being replaced or excluded, it's pretty much Dragon Ball.

[desirecampbell]

How does it not sound like dragon ball? Aside from Goku being in high school and Krillin being replaced or excluded, it's pretty much Dragon Ball.

There are three parts to a piece of fiction. Characters, setting, and plot. I covered those already - they are very different from what we've seen in the manga and the cartoon. If one of those three were changed, I could see some argument about how it's still very much like Dragon Ball - but they've all been changed.

[Fushar]

How does it not sound like dragon ball? Aside from Goku being in high school and Krillin being replaced or excluded, it's pretty much Dragon Ball.

There are three parts to a piece of fiction. Characters, setting, and plot. I covered those already - they are very different from what we've seen in the manga and the cartoon. If one of those three were changed, I could see some argument about how it's still very much like Dragon Ball - but they've all been changed.

Agree

[Acid_Reign]

There are three parts to a piece of fiction. Characters, setting, and plot. I covered those already - they are very different from what we've seen in the manga and the cartoon. If one of those three were changed, I could see some argument about how it's still very much like Dragon Ball - but they've all been changed.

JAPPO is the guy who said Batman Begins sucked, and actually rated X-Men 2 above X-Men. I'd take his theatrical opinions with a grain of salt. :P

[JAPPO]

For fuck sake, I never said Batman Begins "sucked" I said I didn't find it entertaining.

And yes, X-Men 2 was better than the first. Most critics actually agree with me on that.

[SonGokuGT]

Here's a couple things that Jappo told me to translate over AIM. The original link is http://blogs.hoycinema.com/movieland .

It has been announced that the hiring of extras by the production team will be permanent during the movie's filming in Durango, which will be from January 14th up until the end of March. There's a priority for extras with martial arts experience and of varied racial descents to join to add to the film's diversity, so any people in the area that are interested in being close to the production might get lucky. Many people from other countries and other Mexican states asked that question and there's your answer.

Regarding the delay in the movie's filming, the now head of the recently created Office of Tourism, Susana Elósegui Cross, said that it's not something that worries the Durango Office of Tourism or the Dragonball production staff since this type of delay is common and is often done for reason of security.

This lest us suppose that the filming plans are secure since the movie premieres in August and they don't seem to be too worried. We'll have to wait for results and see if the initial release date will be kept.

Cheers!

[JAPPO]

So the news lately would be:

-They are not worried about the schedule and everything seems to be going good.
-Eriko Tamura says she admires James Wong and he's a very nice "coach."
-Filming will start January 14th
-TONS of set pictures have been released. (Set locations actually).
-Movie toys may be released

[Acid_Reign]

For fuck sake, I never said Batman Begins "sucked" I said I didn't find it entertaining.

And yes, X-Men 2 was better than the first. Most critics actually agree with me on that.

Relax dude, I'm just messing. I thought Begins was plenty entertaining but to each his own I guess. And if the critics do say that though I'm afraid I disagree with them, for comic book geek reasons that I won't get into in this thread.

But honestly, this movie is shaping up to be the next Godzilla '98—it was a decent movie on its own (and one of my personal favorites since I saw it when I was 9) but most fans agree that it isn't faithful to the integrity of the original, and even Toho has made a distinction between that monster and theirs. If you can't see how the Dragon Ball movie won't resemble DB in any way aside from the name (can I get a D.I.N.O. anyone? :P), then you need to get your eyes reexamined. It's your typical Hollywood "maximize profits" scenario. The story doesn't mean anything to them beyond how many tickets it can sell. Rough for the fans, but that's the reality of the movie business. My only concern is that the outcome doesn't negate the possibility of a possible faithful adaptation some time down the line.

[JAPPO]

Sigh, I'm not going to argue anymore until we see some concrete pictures and trailer.

It's obvious you all have your minds set on disliking this movie, and I'm not gonna try to cheer you up anymore. I'll hope for the best and you can expect the worse, it doesn't matter since we are all gonna end up paying to see it anyway. And, for the record, there's a TON of stuff in Dragon Ball I disliked that I thought could be re-wrote into something more believable or that doesn't contradict other elements.

[MisterFlashdude]

But honestly, this movie is shaping up to be the next Godzilla '98—it was a decent movie on its own (and one of my personal favorites since I saw it when I was 9) but most fans agree that it isn't faithful to the integrity of the original, and even Toho has made a distinction between that monster and theirs.

If by 'distinction' you mean "made sure to have their Godzilla pwn our 'Zilla' in an effort to demonstrate their superiority"... Then yes, they made a distinction.

I can't wait to see how the Japanese mock our attempt at Dragonball.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Heh heh, Godzilla...it brings me back. Gotta say, for the longest time I would've said the only thing Zilla had over Godzilla was that he looked cooler, but 'Godzilla V.S. Megaguiras' fixed that one back onto the one and only. ^_^

Back on DB, people were talking about a game for it - heh, wouldn't that be everyone's luck, they make a Super Dragon Ball Z 2, but it's based off of the movie's plot or something.

[Acid_Reign]

Sigh, I'm not going to argue anymore until we see some concrete pictures and trailer.

It's obvious you all have your minds set on disliking this movie, and I'm not gonna try to cheer you up anymore. I'll hope for the best and you can expect the worse, it doesn't matter since we are all gonna end up paying to see it anyway. And, for the record, there's a TON of stuff in Dragon Ball I disliked that I thought could be re-wrote into something more believable or that doesn't contradict other elements.

Like I and others before me have said, it isn't necessarily that we'll dislike the movie, we just won't like it as a Dragon Ball movie. I myself like Godzilla, even if I recognize that it isn't the original, true "Gojira" as Mr. Tomoyuki Tanaka's creation. Judging by the hotrod cars, Goku wearing jeans, and just about about everything else, this won't be Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball either, and that's what most of us really want to see.

If by 'distinction' you mean "made sure to have their Godzilla pwn our 'Zilla' in an effort to demonstrate their superiority"... Then yes, they made a distinction.

Oh but of course. That's the only way to go, isn't it? To exact sweet vengeance...

I haven't seen Final Wars yet, so I won't click the link, but the impression I get is that Zilla never stood a fighting chance, which is a shame because it's a great monster.

I can't wait to see how the Japanese mock our attempt at Dragonball.

Hopefully, with a live action movie that actually works as a Dragon Ball film. As an aspiring filmmaker, this is definitely a project I'd be interested in, be it in the states or abroad, so I hope such a thing doesn't happen too soon, but I'd definitely be happy with that, whosoever happens to do it first.

Although, a Goku-Goku vs. a Chatwin-Goku could turn out to be a very amusing fight indeed.

[caejones]

... X2 was better than X1. .

Setting, plot, and characters... How much do we know about each?
We know that Goku, probably Yamcha, with Bulma and Roshi in the air ... are all pretty warped. Le sigh.
Settings? We've had some set shots, and there's the highschool thing (...-.-), but there's a chance we might get surprised.
Plot? What we know about the plot doesn't seem too bent up, unless I missed something...

... Still... :huh: I'm too confused to say much else. Other than ... $100,000,000? An eight months of production? *confused*

[Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece]

The only game we'd be getting out of this is

DRAGON BALL Z THE MOVIE : SAGAS.

Shouldn't it be D.B.I.N.O? Or are we keeping it to four letters? =)

[FindKenshi]

... Still... :huh: I'm too confused to say much else. Other than ... $100,000,000? An eight months of production? *confused*

Did this figure come from the same source that said 300,000 people auditioned, by any chance?

[TripleRach]

Sigh, I'm not going to argue anymore until we see some concrete pictures and trailer.

It's obvious you all have your minds set on disliking this movie, and I'm not gonna try to cheer you up anymore.

Why are you trying in the first place? Does it bother you so much that someone has an opinion that conflicts with your own?

Not to single you out, but I'm just getting really sick of all the pissy attitudes over differing opinions. If you dislike something, you're a picky asshole. If you like something, you're an idiot with low standards. I mean, geez. I'm tired of threads getting locked because of people name-calling and trying to shove their viewpoints down other people's throats to "convert" them.

[MorningBreeze]

What gets to me is people who keep bashing the movie but are still interested in every little detail and will go see it anyway. If you think it will suck that bad, why not just ignore the topic and pass? If you keep wanting more details and reading on it its because youve got a secret thread of hope that it will be good or at least passable and if that is the case, why not just have an open mind.


In the end everyone´s got a right to have their own personal opinion, it´s just a matter of being respectful of each different view point as long as its stated in a mature manner. There is absolutely no need to force it. Its an issue of tolerance.

[omegacwa]

Well, I am remaining somewhat optimistic about this movie. As long as they don't do the current adaptation trend of changing an important male lead into a female, I will be happy.