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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:20 pm

singsing wrote:Perfect Cell vs CG Gohan and Buu arc SSJ Goku.
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Post by Hugo Boss » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:25 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Didn't Old Kaioshin say "normal state" ? Do you have the quote on you?
Old Kaioshin said they may not need Super Saiyan.
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Elder Kaioshin: “If you’re going to become a Super Saiyan, it’s better to do it after merging. But anyway, even without doing that, you’ll probably be plee~~eenty. The Potara’s power is just that amazing!”
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:41 am

So the consensus is Goku couldn't take 7 juniors,

Could he take 4?

Vegeta and Trunks were on a pretty even field with theirs, Piccolo wasn't doing as well against his but was going to last a bit longer.

So assuming Goku had eaten a bean could Goku kill his and the humans 3 either at once or kill his before the others killed the humans. Then helping Piccolo then the saiyans etc.

Basically how would the fight go if Goku ate a bean,

Cell either doesn't intervene or tries but SS1 Gohan actually decides to make an effort against him.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:48 pm

I think the Cell Juniors would still beat him. Three might already be enough.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
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LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) vs. Super Perfect Cell, SSJ 2 Teen Gohan, and SSJ 2 pre-Majin Vegeta
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:17 pm

Cell has a good chance at beating Broly alone. Throwing in one or two other SS2-tier guys ensures that he'll win.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:55 pm

Piccolo (movie 9) vs. Zangya
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TobyS » Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:38 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Piccolo (movie 9) vs. Zangya
Piccolo, I think it took Bojack to beat him, which is why Bojack vs. Piccolo happened.
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Post by Kaboom » Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:50 pm

TobyS wrote:So the consensus is Goku couldn't take 7 juniors. Could he take 4?
Hmmmmaaaaybe. That still might be a little two much. My gut tells me that three is the most that he could definitely beat at once.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) vs. Super Perfect Cell, SSJ 2 Teen Gohan, and SSJ 2 pre-Majin Vegeta
Broli's a small chunk stronger than any of the other SS2-tier characters (even Goku and Majin Vegeta) and probably a bit too much for any one of them to take alone, if only just because of how much of a flippin' unstoppable tank he is. But any team of two or more of them can take him down. This particular trio does just fine.
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Piccolo (movie 9) vs. Zangya
To me, Bojack's henchmen seem pretty relatively weak on their own, and they're most effective as a team. I'm pretty sure Piccolo has this in the bag, even if his power advantage isn't all that big.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:54 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Piccolo (movie 9) vs. Zangya
Zangya seems to be as strong as a Cell Jr judging by her little fight with Trunks. She beats the crap out of Piccolo.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:10 pm

Kibitoshin vs. SSJ Gohan (post-Zeta) SSJ 2 Teen Gohan (post-Budokai training)
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Post by Kaboom » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:19 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Kibitoshin vs. SSJ Gohan (post-Zeta) SSJ 2 Teen Gohan (post-Budokai training)
They're probably pretty similar in power, so I guess it comes down to a contest of who's less incompetent.

*Flips coin*

Gohan wins.
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:31 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Kibitoshin vs. SSJ Gohan (post-Zeta) SSJ 2 Teen Gohan (post-Budokai training)
Gohan, easily.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:38 pm

Kibitoshin teleports Gohan to a planet and destroys it.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:42 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Piccolo (movie 9) vs. Zangya
Zangya
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:45 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Kibitoshin vs. SSJ Gohan (post-Zeta) SSJ 2 Teen Gohan (post-Budokai training)
Holy shit...

Er... :think:

Gohan. But this one of the closet fights you'll see in Dragon Ball.
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Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Kibitoshin teleports Gohan to a planet and destroys it.
Gohan draws a M on his forehead then Kibitoshin shits his diapers and goes into fetal position while sucking his thumb.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:47 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:LSSJ Broly (Movie 10) vs. Super Perfect Cell, SSJ 2 Teen Gohan, and SSJ 2 pre-Majin Vegeta
Super Perfect Cell would stomp Broly on his own. With SSJ2 Teen Gohan and SSJ2 Vegeta along side with him is just overkill.
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:52 pm

:lol: You've just given me an idea, AOTA. For those that don't know, this Freeza appeared in Budokai 2:

Majin Freeza Vs Kaioshin

Would Kaioshin still be able to defeat him with one attack? Or would the symbol and its power be enough to give Freeza the victory?
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Post by Kaboom » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:09 pm

Naturally the mere sight of the 'M' on Freeza's forehead would cause Kaioshin to fall to his knees in terror, leaving him at the perfect height for Freeza to forcefully... shoot him in the head.

That aside, the "Majin boost" is just Bobbidi doing a quick dormant power unlock after he's made you his minion. Since we don't really know what Freeza has going for him in terms of dormant power, then... no good way to tell how strong he'd get.
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