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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Big Momma » Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:20 pm

Basically it just boils down to being a coward. If you're gonna be a douche online, then be one in person. Anything else and you're being a pussy.



EDIT: And going back to Daimaoh using Toriyama's first name. I personally didn't mind it at first because, well, manners are different than other countries and you may not know. And I'm sure he meant no disrespect by it. However, if someone then goes on to tell you about the manners his own home country has, then don't go on some "Well, he'll never read this/I'm non the internet" spiel. It's not being a weeaboo at all to call him Toriyama, it's just being plain polite. I'm not trying to rag on your or anything, either, PD. I'm sure you didn't mean it in a disrespectful way, it's just...well, you know where you're posting, and I'm sure you know Mike's and the general forums stance on not using his first name. Or at least you know now.


EDIT 2: And, yes...I googled how to spell "Spiel" XP
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Post by fig404 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:00 am

Big Momma wrote:EDIT 2: And, yes...I googled how to spell "Shpeel" XP
Yeah, except that it's spelt "spiel".
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:15 am

Big Momma wrote:Basically it just boils down to being a coward. If you're gonna be a douche online, then be one in person. Anything else and you're being a pussy.



EDIT: And going back to Daimaoh using Toriyama's first name. I personally didn't mind it at first because, well, manners are different than other countries and you may not know. And I'm sure he meant no disrespect by it. However, if someone then goes on to tell you about the manners his own home country has, then don't go on some "Well, he'll never read this/I'm non the internet" shpeel. It's not being a weeaboo at all to call him Toriyama, it's just being plain polite. I'm not trying to rag on your or anything, either, PD. I'm sure you didn't mean it in a disrespectful way, it's just...well, you know where you're posting, and I'm sure you know Mike's and the general forums stance on not using his first name. Or at least you know now.


EDIT 2: And, yes...I googled how to spell "Shpeel" XP
Your right, I wasn't trying to be disrespectful to the man or anyone else for the matter. I just don't understand how some of you can get so worked up by me calling someone by their first name. Do some of you worship the guy that much that you never call him by his first name?

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Post by Bussani » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:24 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:Do some of you worship the guy that much that you never call him by his first name?
It's common manners not to call people you aren't close friends with by their first name everywhere I've ever lived. That's where the term "first name basis" comes from. It has nothing to do with worshiping anyone.

Out of curiosity, in which countries is it considered okay?
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:32 am

Bussani wrote:
Out of curiosity, in which countries is it considered okay?
Australia, America, Canada etc.


For example, if I went to get my hair cut and told the barber that my name was "John Smith", it wouldn't be all that disrespectful if he called me John from then on in.

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Post by Big Momma » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:04 am

fig404 wrote:
Big Momma wrote:EDIT 2: And, yes...I googled how to spell "Shpeel" XP
Yeah, except that it's spelt "spiel".

I dunno what you're talking about. It's spelled just like that in my post. :D
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:07 am

Big Momma wrote:
fig404 wrote:
Big Momma wrote:EDIT 2: And, yes...I googled how to spell "Shpeel" XP
Yeah, except that it's spelt "spiel".

I dunno what you're talking about. It's spelled just like that in my post. :D
You changed it from "Spheel".

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Post by fig404 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:49 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Big Momma wrote:I dunno what you're talking about. It's spelled just like that in my post. :D
You changed it from "Spheel".
It was a joke.
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Post by Xyex » Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:50 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:
Bussani wrote:
Out of curiosity, in which countries is it considered okay?
Australia, America, Canada etc.
No it's not.

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:For example, if I went to get my hair cut and told the barber that my name was "John Smith", it wouldn't be all that disrespectful if he called me John from then on in.
If you said your name as John Smith the barber would either call you Mr. Smith or ask if he could use your first name. He would not just start calling you John. If you just introduced yourself as John, then he would call you John.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:38 am

Xyex wrote: No it's not.
Calling someone by their first name is nothing compared to some of the things that happen in America, or the Internet for that matter.
Xyex wrote: If you said your name as John Smith the barber would either call you Mr. Smith or ask if he could use your first name. He would not just start calling you John. If you just introduced yourself as John, then he would call you John.
Going to the barber is a casual thing, unlike a court case. So why would the barber need to be that polite as to call me by my first name? I don't know where you come from, but where I come from it's not disrespectful to call someone by their first name when first making their aquaintance.

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Post by Godo » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:44 am

So Xyex is saying that it's custom to use the last name, and Piccolo Damaio says that his custom isn't that.
What is the problem? You are clearly adjusted to different cultures and ways to show manners.
As long as we know that someone doesn't mean to show any disrespect (which is doubtful that one would do if you join a forum regarding one of the Author's works which you love), why make such of a big deal out of it?
I don't see why people always are trying to force their views to eachother.
Maybe it's common in the States to use the last name, and maybe in Piccolo Damaioh's city alone, it's not!
Words and names are just what they are: words and names. Proper etiquette is to be able to have a discussion and still try to understand that other people's reality isn't the same as yours, and not getting all hung up on if someone uses a person's first or last name.

I am originally from a country where one always uses "Sir" and "M'am", and I grew up in Sweden where one uses first names only. Now I study in another country where one also uses "Sir" and "M'am", but if a foreigner doesn't use those titles, noone frowns upon it, since they understand that customs are different in other countries. Hell, even they themselves don't use it that much anymore since they believe that it's an aged system and have understood that respect doesn't only lie in how you present an individual's name.

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Re: Top 5 Romantic Moments in DB That Never Actually Happened

Post by Kaboom » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:52 am

The whole, "first or last name" issue really isn't the intended topic of this thread, so let's try not to veer off, okay?

Besides, I usually just edit any instance of "Akira" I see into "Mr. Toriyama" anyhoo. :P
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Post by ka1oken » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:39 pm

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: Going to the barber is a casual thing, unlike a court case. So why would the barber need to be that polite as to call me by my first name? I don't know where you come from, but where I come from it's not disrespectful to call someone by their first name when first making their aquaintance.
I agree.

In America I never see people call someone by their last name...
There is only a few places were you would even need to address someone by calling them Mr.(lastname)

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Post by SilverPlaqueVII » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:28 pm

ka1oken wrote:
Piccolo Daimaoh wrote: Going to the barber is a casual thing, unlike a court case. So why would the barber need to be that polite as to call me by my first name? I don't know where you come from, but where I come from it's not disrespectful to call someone by their first name when first making their aquaintance.
I agree.

In America I never see people call someone by their last name...
There is only a few places were you would even need to address someone by calling them Mr.(lastname)

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:41 pm

Kaboom wrote: Besides, I usually just edit any instance of "Akira" I see into "Mr. Toriyama" anyhoo. :P
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:30 am

Oh...my...god!

You people are actually getting in a hissy fit over this?

OK, so Piccolo Daimaoh used Toriyama's first name. Big fucking deal. I can see why some people were taken aback by it, seeing as it's common to refer to someone who you are not personally familiar with by their surname, but now I'm hearing people saying it's bad manners. No, it's not "bad manners". It's just that it's seen as strange to refer to someone you're not familiar with by their first name. By using "Akira", it seems as if you know them personally. Like, during commentary for sports such as football (or soccer in America), they don't refer to David Beckham as "David"--primarily because it's a matter of specification, as there are other players with the first name of David, but also because they're not personally familiar with them--but they refer to him as "Beckham". Going off the "familar" track, it's not just a matter of familiarity, but also "specification", because everyone knows who "Beckham" is, and not who some random "David" is.

Frankly, I don't even care whether people use "Akira" or not, just that it would look weird to me. But I would ignore it, like a mature human being should. Not trying to sound like a moderator or anything, but, for goodness sake, get back on-topic or at least talk about something that's not as childish as whether or not someone uses the first name of someone.
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Piccolo Daimao wrote:Oh...my...god!

You people are actually getting in a hissy fit over this?

OK, so Piccolo Daimaoh used Toriyama's first name. Big fucking deal. I can see why some people were taken aback by it, seeing as it's common to refer to someone who you are not personally familiar with by their surname, but now I'm hearing people saying it's bad manners. No, it's not "bad manners". It's just that it's seen as strange to refer to someone you're not familiar with by their first name. By using "Akira", it seems as if you know them personally. Like, during commentary for sports such as football (or soccer in America), they don't refer to David Beckham as "David"--primarily because it's a matter of specification, as there are other players with the first name of David, but also because they're not personally familiar with them--but they refer to him as "Beckham". Going off the "familar" track, it's not just a matter of familiarity, but also "specification", because everyone knows who "Beckham" is, and not who some random "David" is.

Frankly, I don't even care whether people use "Akira" or not, just that it would look weird to me. But I would ignore it, like a mature human being should. Not trying to sound like a moderator or anything, but, for goodness sake, get back on-topic or at least talk about something that's not as childish as whether or not someone uses the first name of someone.
Because this certainly helped. The argument was over all you're doing is adding more unrelated shit posts to this thread. Kaboom (y'know an actual mod) already came in and told everyone to cut the crap.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:32 pm

Blue wrote:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:Oh...my...god!

You people are actually getting in a hissy fit over this?

OK, so Piccolo Daimaoh used Toriyama's first name. Big fucking deal. I can see why some people were taken aback by it, seeing as it's common to refer to someone who you are not personally familiar with by their surname, but now I'm hearing people saying it's bad manners. No, it's not "bad manners". It's just that it's seen as strange to refer to someone you're not familiar with by their first name. By using "Akira", it seems as if you know them personally. Like, during commentary for sports such as football (or soccer in America), they don't refer to David Beckham as "David"--primarily because it's a matter of specification, as there are other players with the first name of David, but also because they're not personally familiar with them--but they refer to him as "Beckham". Going off the "familar" track, it's not just a matter of familiarity, but also "specification", because everyone knows who "Beckham" is, and not who some random "David" is.

Frankly, I don't even care whether people use "Akira" or not, just that it would look weird to me. But I would ignore it, like a mature human being should. Not trying to sound like a moderator or anything, but, for goodness sake, get back on-topic or at least talk about something that's not as childish as whether or not someone uses the first name of someone.
Because this certainly helped. The argument was over all you're doing is adding more unrelated shit posts to this thread. Kaboom (y'know an actual mod) already came in and told everyone to cut the crap.
Actually, it did help. I was putting in my 2 cents. So don't act like a tit.
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