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Post by KinoFourpaws » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:51 am

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SSj Kaboom wrote:Further proof that no matter what tidbits are released, people will find a reason to whine about 'em. :roll:
'Tidbits' are not enough to make this a good movie. "Oh, he's wearing the turtle gi just like in the show" is not a good reaction. It shouldn't be exciting that their using the uniform we see for 90% of the series.

Complaining about the costumes looking bad is a valid complaint. Complaining that the lead actor looks nothing like the character is a valid complaint. Every complaint brought forth is a valid one.

And Kaboom, your reaction is just "further proof that no matter what tidbits are released, people will find a" way to spin them into making the movie sound less-than-terrible.
Well, they're more valid if they're brought forth in a reasonable way than if they're just phrased as whiny or excessively pessimistic bitching.

I'm not trying to insult you or anything; you can be as cynical about this movie as you want if you so wish to be. Just, don't treat those of us actually optimistic about the outcome like we're being blind, ignorant, or arrogant little idiots. I know Kaboom, for one, knows perfectly well that the movie could in fact end up sucking, and hard; he just also knows that it could also end up decent or even really good, so he's just choosing to maintain confidence in the latter. I myself am hoping that it turns out really good as well, even though I know that I'll be rather ashamed if it's not when I go to see it. But, I'm not going to make a point of focusing on how potentially bad it can be. My hopes aren't sky-high, but they're not nonexistent, either. I'd rather not add to the dismay I deal with everyday already. (But if you feel like you can handle tacking that on, be my guest.) :P

There's a lot to say about keeping an open mind about these things... who knows, if you go to see it when it comes out, you might actually walk out of the theater fairly pleasantly surprised. "It actually didn't blow as much as I as fearing," or something like that. >.>
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Post by desirecampbell » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:56 am

Snail wrote:Transformers was awesome for what it was
Transformers was a terrible movie. A non-nonsensical plot, terrible cinematography, bad direction, campy acting, poor writing, and little connection to the original franchise, does not make it a good movie. In fact, I pretty sure than means it's a bad movie.

Now, just because this movie has taken the source material and shit on it, doesn't mean it won't be a good movie. It just means it won't be a good Dragon Ball movie.


Also, can everyone please stop complaining about the complaints? There's news about the movie, and we react to it here. If you want to have a thread without and complaints, make one. If there was anything good, scratch that, I settle for hopeful, about the movie - I'll be the first one to get excited about it. But as it stands, there's nothing to be excited about.

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KinoFourpaws wrote:-snip-
As I said above, I'm not against the idea of a live action DB movie - I think it could be great - but I sincerely doubt this one will be.

I'm not saying anyone who is excited about the film is stupid. I'm just at a loss as to what, exactly, their excited about. Could anyone explain what it is that makes you think this won't be an abomination of a film? Do you actually have any reasons for thinking it won't be terrible? Anything?
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Post by Kaboom » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:56 am

All to which I reply with a hearty, resounding, "lol, whatever." :P

Fine, I won't try to stop you from being negative, or force you to enjoy the movie. It's your right to be endlessly pessimistic about it if you want, though I'll warn you that it's probably not a very healthy mindset to have in general.

Kino's right about me, though. I'm well aware this movie COULD suck. But I haven't seen anything so far that would keep me, personally, from enjoying it. Largely because... Well, I keep myself optimistic and positive about it, and keep telling myself I will enjoy it. I'll be a bit disappointed if it DOES end up sucking, but... well, I'm starting to sound like a broken record. I just know I'll end up enjoying the movie either way. Same way I enjoyed Transformers and Spider-Man 3. I'm probably gonna end up happier overall that way. :)
desirecampbell wrote:Could anyone explain what it is that makes you think this won't be an abomination of a film? Do you actually have any reasons for thinking it won't be terrible? Anything?
Some of us are just a little less picky, and a little more accepting of changes, I guess.
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Post by desirecampbell » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:07 am

SSj Kaboom wrote:All to which I reply with a hearty, resounding, "lol, whatever." :P

Fine, I won't try to stop you from being negative, or force you to enjoy the movie. It's your right to be endlessly pessimistic about it if you want, though I don't know for sure how healthy it is.
And I won't stop you from being positive, I just want to know why you think this is going to be a good movie. I'd much rather be happy than hateful about the whole ordeal, but I can't be happy with (aside from Marsters and Yun-fat) C-list actors and sub-par a director/writer. Is there anything that you actually take as a "good sign"?

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Seriously, Chatwin is Canadian. That alone is usually enough for me to like him. And I'm still not optimistic about this movie.
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Post by Rocketman » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:08 am

I'm well aware it's likely to suck. I just don't give a damn. :P

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Post by snaku » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:19 am

Rocketman wrote:I'm well aware it's likely to suck. I just don't give a damn. :P
Pretty much my stance as of now. There's nothing I can do about it. Yeah, I would have preferred they had done this back when Dragon Ball was still relevant, and not rushed it into production before a writers strike. But that's how the chips fell.

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Post by the original ero-sennin » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:22 am

I'll gladly pay the ticket price to see Chow Yun Fat playing Kame-Sennin.

And, for all you pacifists out there... we've heard your complaints. Now, chill out! You'll all see the film... You don't have to like it. But don't bitch about it.

Don't worry, be happy. :wink:

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Post by Snail » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:28 am

XD! Someone will just tell you that if you like it you shouldn't emphasize your optimism towards this film.

We should be allowed to praise, or bitch.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:28 am

I'm happy to see the orange gi's if it helps. I was worried that'd be scrapped in favor of something more "hip and now".
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Post by Kaboom » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:29 am

desirecampbell wrote:Is there anything that you actually take as a "good sign"?
A few specific things I could quote, but... Quite frankly, they're mostly opinion, and as such they'd just be immediately and harshly shot down with sarcasm and foul language, and I really don't feel like getting involved in yet another big argument... especially if it'd result in the closing of this thread. So I'm dropping it.

But I will say that, from what we've seen of both the story and the overall "look" of the film (combo of sets/costumes/casting, etc..), that despite the adjustments it still gives off a very DragonBall-like "vibe" to me. So as long as the acting is horrible, I should still find it enjoyable.
Rocketman wrote:I'm well aware it's likely to suck. I just don't give a damn. :P
lol, exactly. It's going to happen whether we want it to or not, so it's probably healthier to at least TRY to enjoy it.
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Post by MisterFlashdude » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:42 am

This movie should have gone the Forbidden Kingdom route.

"It's inspired by Dragonball... but we're not going to call it Dragonball, because it's really not."

I think everyone who cares about the series would be much more accepting of the uh... "alterations" to the story.. the characters.. the races.. the world.. Just about.. y'kno... everything.. :?

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Post by JAPPO » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:54 am

To their credit they never said it was going to be a movie about "this particular story in dragonball" they said it's "an adaptation based on the manga."
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Post by Snail » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:55 am

MisterFlashdude wrote:This movie should have gone the Forbidden Kingdom route.

"It's inspired by Dragonball... but we're not going to call it Dragonball, because it's really not."

I think everyone who cares about the series would be much more accepting of the uh... "alterations" to the story.. the characters.. the races.. the world.. Just about.. y'kno... everything.. :?
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:57 am

Man, what's with all the Transformers hate? I love that movie. I've never seen the original cartoons though because, frankly...I'm sorry, I hear Casey Kasem, and any expectations beyond Scooby-Doo leave my head. I see a giant robot and hear his voice, I lose faith in an epic battle on the way. :P

I think Rocketman has summed up the non-bitchers side well - It will probably suck but we don't give a damn. I know for a fact that it's going to be one hell of a crappy DB adaption film, just like Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was crappy as a Final Fantasy film. But if you step back from your expectations and look at it as something completely different and new, then who knows, you just might enjoy it. :wink:
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Post by VEGETA_DTX » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:05 am

@desirecampbell
Also, can everyone please stop complaining about the complaints?
Finally someone said that...god job desirecampbell.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:12 am

Dude, can you make a smaller version of that? I want that as my avatar! :D
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Post by Snail » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:16 am

Haha, your best work yet DTX.

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Post by VEGETA_DTX » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:23 am

@Gyt Kaliba
Yeah I can ^_^
but which dimensions :?

@Snail thnx :D
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Post by ETC123 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:25 am

hnnnng better fuckin' jack off to how much of an elitist I am hnnnnnnnggg

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Post by VEGETA_DTX » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:31 am

^Wow you're telling that from your own experience???
You're wrong I never was elitist... but it seems that YOU are the jealous one... or you simply must comment everything? why couldn't you just ignore this and ask something ontopic instead of countinuing offtopic?

You probably have wrong impression about me, I would do a favor and make a gif to someone who is at least fair and correct, but surely not to you and others of your kind...
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