Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by penguintruth » Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:27 pm

We wouldn't speculate if Funimation just fucking told us already. We shouldn't be in the position of guessing, just make an annoucement. The fact that some of you already know who it is only fuels speculation, so yes, we're going to continue to speculate.

And no, I'm not concerned that Sabat could get in trouble. If he didn't want to get in trouble, he shouldn't have told anyone at all.
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by KKZ » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:53 pm

Why the hell would anyone drop hints beyond the new voice actor being a male? Seriously, this is sacred shit folks. A well guarded secret straight from the source in a time where you could usually just look up the validity of a rumor in seconds on the Internet, oh well. Anything to stroke one's elitist egomaniac raging nerd cock I guess. This really sucks, thanks for taking the fun out of waiting for episode 19 everyone. What an awesome community. If I were Chris Sabat or anyone else working at the panel I would be pissed beyond belief.
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by The Tori-bot » Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:57 pm

KKZ wrote:Why the hell would anyone drop hints beyond the new voice actor being a male? Seriously, this is sacred shit folks. A well guarded secret straight from the source in a time where you could usually just look up the validity of a rumor in seconds on the Internet, oh well. Anything to stroke one's elitist egomaniac raging nerd cock I guess. This really sucks, thanks for taking the fun out of waiting for episode 19 everyone. What an awesome community. If I were Chris Sabat or anyone else working at the panel I would be pissed beyond belief.
1. Sabat and Schemmel even said in the interview it was a man.
2. Are you being sarcastic? I kinda can't tell. :shock:
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by KKZ » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:36 pm

The only sarcastic remark I made was about the community. I'm legitimately pissed about the mindless secrecy that ultimately resulted in the whole allure and mystery behind Freeza's new voice becoming completely and utterly moot. I could have dealt with a few people knowing before most everyone else if it had actually stood that way until episode 19 came out.

But now that all the supaa FUNimation Internet fanspies have figured out who it is because of the various hints (needlessly) dropped throughout this thread, the whole ordeal seems completely pointless. Thanks for ruining what could have been an awesome surprise. I mean, I'm sure when I hear the voice he's going to sound great regardless. But now that I know what this guy actually sounds like from looking up some of his roles on YouTube, hearing him as Freeza won't be as impactful.

And now that I've thought about it more I'm especially pissed that the guys at the panel even said anything about a new Freeza voice in the first place. It should have been a complete surprise. But like I said, nothing's sacred any more in a world where the Internet exists.

If you guys are somehow wrong (I kind of hope you are even though this guy sounds like he could be pretty boss), consider the above words eaten.
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by penguintruth » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:38 pm

Nobody's forcing you to be on the internet. Nobody said you had to read these threads, either. And certainly there's no gaurantee that I'm even right about it being Chris Ayres.

If they didn't want us speculating, they shouldn't have told anyone who it was, or even let it slip they were recasting the role.
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:41 pm

And nobody forced you to look him up to find out what he sounded like. It would have been one thing if you were already familiar with this person's body of work, but it seems to me you took it upon yourself to find out what he sounded like after finding out that he might be Freeza... which is what you're complaining about. Interesting logic. But I can see where you're coming from.
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by penguintruth » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:43 pm

Actually, what I did was take the hints, and poured over the casts of those shows mentioned and looked at several VAs' ANN entries and finally found one that fit all categories. It took about an hour.
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by fps_anth » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:52 pm

Old lady Freeza is dead. This is some of the best dub related news I've heard in a long time.

With this, I will officially give the dub a chance. Freeza's voice has always been the biggest travesty for me, and now that it's changed, I'm going to watch the dub.

Until I feel like hearing Ryusei Nakao again :D

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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by KKZ » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:04 pm

Well penguintruth, I still sincerely hope you're wrong. Gaffer's right, I really shouldn't have looked up his roles (I should clarify that he wasn't the only person I looked up though). That aside, I've never understood the "forcing you to do [insert action here]" argument, at least in most situations to which it is applied. Why would someone have to "force" me to go on the Internet and visit sites and forums dedicated to a series I love, or "force" me to read a thread on a subject I'm legitimately interested about? I'm not a huge fan of Linda Young's Freeza and have loved the Kai voice recasts thus far, so of course I'm going to read it. It's just that I never went into the thread expecting to see meticulously detailed lists chronicling actually possible replacement actors. Maybe you should have used spoiler tags, or maybe the OP should have edited "POSSIBLE SPOILER" in the thread title.
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:10 pm

penguintruth wrote:Actually, what I did was take the hints, and poured over the casts of those shows mentioned and looked at several VAs' ANN entries and finally found one that fit all categories. It took about an hour.
Oh, just to clarify, KKZ is right. I was referring to his post, not to yours. I was just following up the same style you used. I guess that wasn't clear.

But, to KKZ, like I said, I do get where you're coming from in terms of not wanting it spoiled for you. But in that sense, you do have a responsibility to keep yourself from spoilers. While it's not always easy, you honestly can't blame anyone else if you actually put forth your own effort to spoil it. But it looks like you already got that point.
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by theoriginalbilis » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:20 am

Wow. This is good news!

While I think Linda Young is a fine voice actress, the Freeza character was honestly a complete miscast. Besides, it's not like she's completely dismissed from the series. She'll more than likely continue to voice Baba (or civilian roles, which a lot of FUNi VAs do for the DB franchise), so stick her with the role of hers I think is the best.

Looking forward to the Nicktoons airings now, just to hear that sweet manly-vocal-butter coming from Freeza's mouth... (Wait, did I type that out loud?)
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by Undercooked Sausage » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:54 am

This is the most important casting decision FUNImation has ever made in the entirety of it's lifespan as a business.

I will now have no problem with anyone who wants to watch Kai dubbed and will happily do so myself without objection.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:07 am

I'm still sticking with my bets that it's going to be J. Michael Tatum (Enel's dub voice actor).

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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by Amigo Ten » Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:33 am

Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:I'm still sticking with my bets that it's going to be J. Michael Tatum (Enel's dub voice actor).
I think I've seen a clip of this. I had no idea what it was at the time, but that name rings a bell, so I think someone must have just take a sound clip of him doing Eneru and put it over a clip of Freeza speaking. I really didn't like the result.

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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by xzero » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:33 am

I'm a bit mixed on this one. I really liked Linda's Freeza. Simultaneously, I have a lot of faith in Chris Sabat as the director to give us something really solid. Plus, based on Sean's comments, it sounds like they have the right idea.

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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by desirecampbell » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:09 am

xzero wrote:I'm a bit mixed on this one. I really liked Linda's Freeza. Simultaneously, I have a lot of faith in Chris Sabat as the director to give us something really solid. Plus, based on Sean's comments, it sounds like they have the right idea.
I can honestly say I cannot disagree more to everything you just said.

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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by KaiserNeko » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:04 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
xzero wrote:I'm a bit mixed on this one. I really liked Linda's Freeza. Simultaneously, I have a lot of faith in Chris Sabat as the director to give us something really solid. Plus, based on Sean's comments, it sounds like they have the right idea.
I can honestly say I cannot disagree more to everything you just said.
So... you didn't like Linda's Freeza, you don't have faith in Sabat as a director, and you think Sean's reaction signifies that this interpretation of Freeza is wrong?
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by The Tori-bot » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:15 pm

penguintruth wrote:Actually, what I did was take the hints, and poured over the casts of those shows mentioned and looked at several VAs' ANN entries and finally found one that fit all categories. It took about an hour.
Took me ten minutes. :P

Also, KKZ: you are reacting as if national security has been breached, and in doing so trying to stir up some drama (or, if you will, BAAAWWWW) by ranting about how much everyone sucks and have ruined everything. It is a voice for a cartoon alien. Is it really that high-up on the list of things to be upset about? And I agree with GT, you didn't have to look him up, all you did was ruin it for yourself, so I don't know what you're bitching about.
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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by RazorX » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:18 pm

I'm disappointed at the news of a Frieza recast and how they handled it. Funimation state Linda is returning for Freeza, they had her play Freeza's part in episode 1 and even had her recording lines until Sabat decided be an arsehole and convince the execs to change the voice, then he and Sean have the gull to pat each other on the back and hype this up as some sort of "surprise" at the expense of Linda Young, imagine how she feels....

Sabat's "Linda counldnt read lines fast enough" sounds like an excuse, unless they want Freeza to read lines as fast as the Euro dubs of the movies, such as:

Turlece: "everyoneinmyracecanbecomeagiantgorilla"

would be:

Freeza: "everyoneinmyracecantransformtoconserveorincreaseenergy"

Maybe the execs should wrench away Sabat's and Schemmel's main roles of Vegeta and Kaio, give them to someone else, pat each other on the back then hype this up as a major surprise to fans, lets see how happy Sabat and Schemmel are about that, maybe then they'll understand how Linda may be feeling.

A recast of Vegeta and Kaio in the Funi dub will be a good thing, in stark contrast to the Ocean dub where Vegeta and Kaio had among the best voices of the dub.

If they wanted to recast Freeza, it should've been done at the start, or at the very least it should not have been hyped up as some sort of surprise, thats insulting to Linda who's done the role for over 10 years.

For those who think Kent Williams can do Freeza.....no, a big NO. He made Tao sound like a wimp, you just couldnt take Tao Pai Pai as a cold hearted assassin with the voice Kent gave him for the Funi dub.

Vic doesnt fit either, unless you want Freeza singing jokes akin to Broly. His voice is too soft anyway.

Fortunately, its pretty much confirmed it isnt those 2 or any of Funi's cast. As I mentioned before, there isnt anyone in Funimation's cast who can do the voice for Freeza except Linda Young. The fact that Funimation got someone from outside reinforces that view. At least Funi got a new person in so it might not be that bad.

I havent heard of the person speculated as the new voice for Freeza, so the name doesnt mean anything to be and i wont be researching his roles so I'll just hear the voice without any prior knowledge of it.

I'm not expecting the new voice to be as good as Linda's, I have low expectations of it. Those expecting it to be a dead ringer for Nakao will probably be disappointed. But we'll see. I would like it if I was surprised by the voice in terms of how good it is.
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Considering the fact that Linda's acting is much better than Sabat's he has no moral authority to insult her voice like that. At least Linda gives a memorable performance and puts her heart into it, all Sabat sounds like as a pissed off regular man down the street for Vegeta in the Saiyan and Freeza episodes when he's supposed to be cold and evil.
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Paul Dobson is the perfect actor for Zarbon. But the news that Zarbon has been recast has cushioned the Freeza recast blow somewhat, since I hated Chris Sabat's portrayal of Zarbon.

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Re: Linda Young not to voice Freeza in the Dragon ball Kai dub?

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:24 pm

RazorX wrote:until Sabat decided be an arsehole and convince the execs to change the voice
Did you... not even listen to what was said in the video? Or are you twisting things around to suit your own preferences? That's what I'm seeing.

It was just as much on Young as anyone else -- if what is said in the video is to believed (and hey, I'd be with you on that in casting a little bit of doubt on any statements made)... she couldn't keep up with the script in that voice.

If someone can't do their job, they don't get to do their job. It's as simple as that.

You say it's an "excuse", but with the prior script being so drastically different from what they're doing with the dub these days, I certainly buy it. They make it sound like they even tried to push forward with the voice from Young (which makes me unhappy as someone who wanted them to make the tough decisions from the start), so the clingy fans at least have that to keep them warm at night.
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