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Post by Kaboom » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:40 pm

Goku: "Can I eat this one?"
Gohan: "No you can't."
Goku: "... How 'bout this one?"
Gohan: "No."
Goku: "This one looks kinda tasty..."
Gohan: "Hands off, mister."
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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:44 pm

Goku: How did you afford this house?

Gohan: Well, when you crashed in the woods 18 years ago the tabloids would pay anything for.... (realizes he says to much, goes back to cutting his plants).

Goku: (Shakes head in disbelief) Happy Birthday indeed.

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Post by snaku » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:47 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Goku: "Can I eat this one?"
Gohan: "No you can't."
Goku: "... How 'bout this one?"
Gohan: "No."
Goku: "This one looks kinda tasty..."
Gohan: "Hands off, mister."
He's not really a voracious eater in the novel. In fact he completely blows off a feast to go fawn over Chi Chi.

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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:00 pm

Goku: "Can I go to the party?"
Gohan: "No."
Goku: "Can I go to the party?"
Gohan: "No."
Goku: "Can I go to the party?"
Gohan: "No."
Goku: "Can I go to the party?"
Gohan: "No."
Goku: "Can I go to the party?"
Gohan: "NO!! For the last time, I got a ton of food for you, and you'll ditch it to go to a girl's house, you delinquent little kid?!"
Goku: "I'll burn ya trees if ya won't allow me ta go :evil: !!"
Gohan: "............... I changed my mind... you can go...!!"

Lame one, I know... but I *thought* it's kinda funny -_-

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Post by Dr. Casey » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:12 pm

snaku wrote:He's not really a voracious eater in the novel. In fact he completely blows off a feast to go fawn over Chi Chi.
Funny how Goku cares more about Chichi in the movie when she's nothing more than a high school crush than he ever does in the actual series, where by the end she's been his wife for close to 30 years.

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Post by Rocketman » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:17 pm

snaku wrote:He's not really a voracious eater in the novel. In fact he completely blows off a feast to go fawn over Chi Chi.
I see nothing wrong with this.

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Post by Kaboom » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:08 pm

snaku wrote:He's not really a voracious eater in the novel. In fact he completely blows off a feast to go fawn over Chi Chi.
Other sources have hinted that he's got quite the appetite in the film itself, though. Besides, there's gotta be a reason he was getting a 'feast' for his birthday in the first place. :wink:
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Post by desirecampbell » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:26 pm

snaku wrote:
  • Goku's full name is Son Goku
  • Chi Chi McRoberts LAME and Mai are the only people to fight in the movie version of the Tenkaichi Budokai
  • Bulma's last name is Enchanto LAME, and she's searching for the Dragon Balls to harness their power to create a limitless supply of electricity and become famous LAME
  • Yamucha is a ladies man DOUBLE LAME, and agrees to join the quest if he gets a percentage of the royalties from Bulma's Dragon Ball energy crisis solution
  • Yamucha and Bulma flirt a bit before the final confrontation, knowing that they could both be dead in a matter of hours LAME
  • Goku's pole is called Nyoibo, and can extend
  • Goku never says, "I'm not ready for this!"
  • Ki is used to bend the three elements: fire, water, air LAME
  • Kamehame-Ha is the highest form of airbending, and it's spelled as "Kame-hame-ha" in the novel LAME
  • Everytime Goku comes into contact with a new Dragon Ball, he has visions of Oozaru the Destroyer crash landing on Earth, and his friends having been killed by him LAME
  • The scene in the trailer with Goku firing ki blasts at those torches with Chi Chi, he's firing Kamehame-Ha blasts
  • Piccolo and Oozaru the Destroyer attacked Earth 2000 years ago LAME; Piccolo was sealed with the "Ma Fu Ba"
  • The blood moon eclipse LAME, which is formed when there's an eclipse and Earth and Planet Vegeta are aligned IMPOSSIBLE AND LAME, calls forth Oozaru the Destroyer
  • Piccolo addresses the Oozaru the Destroyer THEY KEEP CALLING IT THAT? LAME inside of Goku as an old friend, and tells Goku he's "a Saiyan named Kakkarot" HE'S BEEN TRAPPED FOR A HUNDRED TIMES AS LONG AS GOKU'S BEEN ALIVE, RIGHT? LAME
  • Goku was found in the asteroid (space ship?) that he crash landed in 18 years prior by Gohan, which runs contrary to the idea of Goku being the original Oozaru the Destroyer that Piccolo traveled to Earth with 2000 years ago
  • Oozaru the Destroyer was dormant inside of Goku until his 18th birthday to awaken LAME
  • No Saiya-jin has ever reverted to normal after having transformed into an Oozaru LAME
  • Muten-Roshi (as he is referred to in the novel), after having failed to contain Piccolo in the jar after using "Ma Fu Ba," in his final moments revives Goku within Oozaru the Destroyer and helps him revert back to normal
  • Goku accepts that he's both Goku and Oozaru, and that he must combine both halves of his self to defeat Piccolo, thus becoming a Saiya-jin/Oozaru hybrid
  • The Saiya-jin/Oozaru hybrid Goku has fangs, his muscle mass increases, and his eyes glow red...an Evolved Saiya-jin (ESJ)? LAME The concept is very similar to SSJ4, but he doesn't turn into it from Oozaru, but rather from his normal form. His appearance still mostly looks like Goku, he's not FishFace!
  • ESJ Goku LAME uses "Ma Fu Ba," which calls upon the three elements for power LAME, and the power of the blood moon eclipse LAME to create a Super Kamehame-Ha that destroys Piccolo
  • Yamucha kills Mai with a shuriken to the back LAME
  • Goku calls forth Shen Long to bring Muten-Roshi back to life
  • The book ends with Goku squaring off with Chi Chi...think the end of Rocky III....DING DING
I'll add more later as I remember new things.
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Post by Rocketman » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:34 pm

desirecampbell wrote: LAME
Wait, why is it lame that Bulma and Yamcha flirt?

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Post by Kaboom » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:36 pm

Rocketman wrote:
desirecampbell wrote: LAME
Wait, why is it lame that Bulma and Yamcha flirt?
Because in the almighty manga, Yamcha was afraid of women at first.

But then again, he certainly didn't stay that way any later than Pilaf. For most of the rest of the story he kept pissing Bulma off by being too much of a ladies' man.
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Post by SonEric84 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:41 pm

Chi-chi McRoberts? Enchanto? I don't even know what to say.
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Post by Velasa » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:50 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote: But then again, he certainly didn't stay that way any later than Pilaf. For most of the rest of the story he kept pissing Bulma off by being too much of a ladies' man.
You mean like those scenes where girls were chasing him and he would run away? Or where he would get accidentally tossed into sittuations where it looked like he was after/whatever this girl, and Bulma would throw a shitfit on him when he hadn't bloody done anything?

I remember one scene training for the Jinzonigen where he's grinning at pretty girls on the television (which's anime only I believe). Name me one manga example of Yamcha ever being vaugely unfaithful that happens in this reality.
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Post by Pain » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:59 pm

Velasa wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote: But then again, he certainly didn't stay that way any later than Pilaf. For most of the rest of the story he kept pissing Bulma off by being too much of a ladies' man.
You mean like those scenes where girls were chasing him and he would run away? Or where he would get accidentally tossed into sittuations where it looked like he was after/whatever this girl, and Bulma would throw a shitfit on him when he hadn't bloody done anything?

I remember one scene training for the Jinzonigen where he's grinning at pretty girls on the television (which's anime only I believe). Name me one manga example of Yamcha ever being vaugely unfaithful that happens in this reality.
You sticking up for Yamcha like that is just outright ridiculous. You sound like his lawyer. In the manga, Yamcha is never seen cheating on Bulma, as far as I can tell. But he does so in the anime and video games. Just face the facts. After Pilaf, Yamcha becomes a womanizer....and a baseball player soon after.
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Post by JAPPO » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:02 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
snaku wrote:
  • Goku's full name is Son Goku
  • Chi Chi McRoberts LAME and Mai are the only people to fight in the movie version of the Tenkaichi Budokai
  • Bulma's last name is Enchanto LAME, and she's searching for the Dragon Balls to harness their power to create a limitless supply of electricity and become famous LAME
  • Yamucha is a ladies man DOUBLE LAME, and agrees to join the quest if he gets a percentage of the royalties from Bulma's Dragon Ball energy crisis solution
  • Yamucha and Bulma flirt a bit before the final confrontation, knowing that they could both be dead in a matter of hours LAME
  • Goku's pole is called Nyoibo, and can extend
  • Goku never says, "I'm not ready for this!"
  • Ki is used to bend the three elements: fire, water, air LAME
  • Kamehame-Ha is the highest form of airbending, and it's spelled as "Kame-hame-ha" in the novel LAME
  • Everytime Goku comes into contact with a new Dragon Ball, he has visions of Oozaru the Destroyer crash landing on Earth, and his friends having been killed by him LAME
  • The scene in the trailer with Goku firing ki blasts at those torches with Chi Chi, he's firing Kamehame-Ha blasts
  • Piccolo and Oozaru the Destroyer attacked Earth 2000 years ago LAME; Piccolo was sealed with the "Ma Fu Ba"
  • The blood moon eclipse LAME, which is formed when there's an eclipse and Earth and Planet Vegeta are aligned IMPOSSIBLE AND LAME, calls forth Oozaru the Destroyer
  • Piccolo addresses the Oozaru the Destroyer THEY KEEP CALLING IT THAT? LAME inside of Goku as an old friend, and tells Goku he's "a Saiyan named Kakkarot" HE'S BEEN TRAPPED FOR A HUNDRED TIMES AS LONG AS GOKU'S BEEN ALIVE, RIGHT? LAME
  • Goku was found in the asteroid (space ship?) that he crash landed in 18 years prior by Gohan, which runs contrary to the idea of Goku being the original Oozaru the Destroyer that Piccolo traveled to Earth with 2000 years ago
  • Oozaru the Destroyer was dormant inside of Goku until his 18th birthday to awaken LAME
  • No Saiya-jin has ever reverted to normal after having transformed into an Oozaru LAME
  • Muten-Roshi (as he is referred to in the novel), after having failed to contain Piccolo in the jar after using "Ma Fu Ba," in his final moments revives Goku within Oozaru the Destroyer and helps him revert back to normal
  • Goku accepts that he's both Goku and Oozaru, and that he must combine both halves of his self to defeat Piccolo, thus becoming a Saiya-jin/Oozaru hybrid
  • The Saiya-jin/Oozaru hybrid Goku has fangs, his muscle mass increases, and his eyes glow red...an Evolved Saiya-jin (ESJ)? LAME The concept is very similar to SSJ4, but he doesn't turn into it from Oozaru, but rather from his normal form. His appearance still mostly looks like Goku, he's not FishFace!
  • ESJ Goku LAME uses "Ma Fu Ba," which calls upon the three elements for power LAME, and the power of the blood moon eclipse LAME to create a Super Kamehame-Ha that destroys Piccolo
  • Yamucha kills Mai with a shuriken to the back LAME
  • Goku calls forth Shen Long to bring Muten-Roshi back to life
  • The book ends with Goku squaring off with Chi Chi...think the end of Rocky III....DING DING
I'll add more later as I remember new things.
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Post by Pain » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:04 pm

So, JAPPO, have you seen an actual image of the Oozaru?
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Post by desirecampbell » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:04 pm

Rocketman wrote:
desirecampbell wrote: LAME
Wait, why is it lame that Bulma and Yamcha flirt?
SSj Kaboom wrote:Because in the almighty manga, Yamcha was afraid of women at first.
That's a bit of it, but mainly it's because the reasoning behind it is that they're about to die. "Hey, we could be dead tomorrow" "yeah. In that case, you're pretty." "*giggle*".

Fucking lame.
SSj Kaboom wrote: But then again, he certainly didn't stay that way any later than Pilaf. For most of the rest of the story he kept pissing Bulma off by being too much of a ladies' man.
Actually, he's not. He's the straight man in a comedy of errors. The only time he's shown as doing anything except avoiding women is in the dub.

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Post by JAPPO » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:12 pm

desirecampbell wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
desirecampbell wrote: LAME
Wait, why is it lame that Bulma and Yamcha flirt?
SSj Kaboom wrote:Because in the almighty manga, Yamcha was afraid of women at first.
That's a bit of it, but mainly it's because the reasoning behind it is that they're about to die. "Hey, we could be dead tomorrow" "yeah. In that case, you're pretty." "*giggle*".

Fucking lame.
SSj Kaboom wrote: But then again, he certainly didn't stay that way any later than Pilaf. For most of the rest of the story he kept pissing Bulma off by being too much of a ladies' man.
Actually, he's not. He's the straight man in a comedy of errors. The only time he's shown as doing anything except avoiding women is in the dub.
Because as we all know Dragonball had great, deep romances...
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Post by Velasa » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:23 pm

Pain wrote:You sticking up for Yamcha like that is just outright ridiculous. You sound like his lawyer. In the manga, Yamcha is never seen cheating on Bulma, as far as I can tell. But he does so in the anime and video games. Just face the facts. After Pilaf, Yamcha becomes a womanizer....and a baseball player soon after.
I'm not his lawyer, I just love this character and I'm so unbeliveably sick of the way he's slandered and treated like shit in the fandom. He isn't a womanizer and he never has been, not in this freaking reality.
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Post by Pain » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:29 pm

Velasa wrote:
Pain wrote:You sticking up for Yamcha like that is just outright ridiculous. You sound like his lawyer. In the manga, Yamcha is never seen cheating on Bulma, as far as I can tell. But he does so in the anime and video games. Just face the facts. After Pilaf, Yamcha becomes a womanizer....and a baseball player soon after.
I'm not his lawyer, I just love this character and I'm so unbeliveably sick of the way he's slandered and treated like shit in the fandom. He isn't a womanizer and he never has been, not in this freaking reality.
Seriously? He is in fact a womanizer. But that isn't all he is. Just because I call him that, it doesn't mean it's his only title. He's a lot of things, and a womanizer is one of them. I'd say that the movie is portraying Yamcha quite well.
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Post by Velasa » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:30 pm

So show me one instance where he even vaugely resembles a womanizer. Go ahead. Video games and dub changes don't count.
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