"Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread

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Post by simtek34 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:46 am

After watching the Fuji TV version of this episode, wow, that version went by very fast.
Anyways, back on topic. Great Episode! Gohan and Goten training together, Videl and Chi-Chi fighting about sex, loved it! Kara Edwards is still doing the perfect Goten voice.

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Post by superfan2024 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:14 am

I love Kai, but man they just keep playing "Theme of Super Saiyan" way too often. I think I've heard it play 3-4 times in this episode.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:13 pm

simtek34 wrote:Super Saiyan Bargain Basement Sale!
I personally think Funi adding 'basement' makes it too wordy.
"Super Saiyan Bargain Sale" sounds much more natural to me.

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Post by sintzu » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:30 pm

mint0h wrote:Geez Gohan's a bigger dick than I thought.
I like it cause he has a personallity here, unlike in Super wehre he's as interesting as a fish in a bowl.

This also applies to Goten, he seems like a real character here compared to Super.

I've never cared that much about Gohan, Goten, Trunks & Gotenks but seeing how bad they're written in Super, I actually think they're interesting characters in Z now.
simtek34 wrote:After watching the Fuji TV version of this episode, wow, that version went by very fast.
The pacing here feels a lot more natural and in line with the original kai's than Fuji's edition.
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Post by Bansho64 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:46 pm

mint0h wrote:Geez Gohan's a bigger dick than I thought.
To be fair, he's not like that all the time, but yeah. He was wayyyy too harsh on Goten. Like, chill Gohan :lol:

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Post by simtek34 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:26 am

Who is the script writer for the Boo saga? It feels like the Kai 1.0 script with it being a very accurate script with a couple of jokes thrown in here and there. Tatum mabue?

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:45 am

simtek34 wrote:Who is the script writer for the Boo saga? It feels like the Kai 1.0 script with it being a very accurate script with a couple of jokes thrown in here and there. Tatum mabue?
It's Patrick Seitz. He's doing a great job!.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:33 pm

So a lot of folks myself included were like the dub will make up for all of Buu Kai bad production qualities and... not even I realised how well I meant it haha. Seriously the green tint doesn't bother me at all, the music for the most part aswell (just a few occasions I cringed), good stuff! I guess maybe since I wanted this for so long I am enjoying every moment of it? Same for Super, the retelling of BoG is yet to feel like a chore and the episode 5 didn't bother at all, Sean's incredible acting just took me away! I knew I would enjoy the respect shows with their dubs more but I didn't realise how well! (No disrespect to the original it is just something about watching in my natural tongue that I find the most enjoyment).

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Post by kinisking » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:08 pm

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mint0h wrote:Geez Gohan's a bigger dick than I thought.
To be fair, he's not like that all the time, but yeah. He was wayyyy too harsh on Goten. Like, chill Gohan :lol:
What did he do? haha
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Post by Bansho64 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:25 pm

kinisking wrote: What did he do? haha
It was when Goten was bothering him when he was trying to train. Gohan was about to bust a blood vessel yellin at dat boy :lol:

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Post by kinisking » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:33 pm

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kinisking wrote: What did he do? haha
It was when Goten was bothering him when he was trying to train. Gohan was about to bust a blood vessel yellin at dat boy :lol:
Damn :lol: . Forgot something like that ever happened. I felt really bad for Goten haha. I really do miss Gohan and Goten's relationship though.
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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:23 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:So a lot of folks myself included were like the dub will make up for all of Buu Kai bad production qualities and... not even I realised how well I meant it haha. Seriously the green tint doesn't bother me at all, the music for the most part aswell (just a few occasions I cringed), good stuff! I guess maybe since I wanted this for so long I am enjoying every moment of it? Same for Super, the retelling of BoG is yet to feel like a chore and the episode 5 didn't bother at all, Sean's incredible acting just took me away! I knew I would enjoy the respect shows with their dubs more but I didn't realise how well! (No disrespect to the original it is just something about watching in my natural tongue that I find the most enjoyment).
I agree with everything here.

I have nothing against the original but growing up with the dub and preferring dubbed anime in general has made both of them (especially super) a lot more enjoyable then they were in Japanese.
kinisking wrote:I really do miss Gohan and Goten's relationship though.
Have they ever talked to each other in Super apart from the 1st episode ?
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Post by kinisking » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:40 pm

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Have they ever talked to each other in Super apart from the 1st episode ?
Gohan refused to let him fight during ROF and with Hit. Goten and Gohan also stalked Goku together, and they talked in episode 75.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q1Cd9rG52w

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Post by Bansho64 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:26 pm

kinisking wrote: I really do miss Gohan and Goten's relationship though.
Same. Gohan and Goten's training together before the Tenkaichi Budokai was my favorite part of the Boo arc. I'm not even kidding. I just can't help but love it. I know a lot of people say Goten is useless besides being one half of Gotenks, but those scenes he had with Gohan really make me feel otherwise.

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Post by kinisking » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:33 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
kinisking wrote: I really do miss Gohan and Goten's relationship though.
Same. Gohan and Goten's training together before the Tenkaichi Budokai was my favorite part of the Boo arc. I'm not even kidding. I just can't help but love it. I know a lot of people say Goten is useless besides being one half of Gotenks, but those scenes he had with Gohan really make me feel otherwise.
I was rewatching some clips of boo saga Kai and I really love their run back home after Videl came. The animation, scenery, story boarding and dialogue were captivating. I also remembered how much I liked Goten's character after those clips. You're right, Goten does have a pretty entertaining personality.
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Post by Bansho64 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:38 pm

kinisking wrote: I was rewatching some clips of boo saga Kai and I really love their run back home after Videl came. The animation, scenery, story boarding and dialogue were captivating. I also remembered how much I liked Goten's character after those clips. You're right, Goten does have a pretty entertaining personality.
Bro, I was just watching that clip and I had the same thoughts! The best word I could use to describe it is "chill". The carefree tone was fresh and the visuals were extremely well done. Those backgrounds were awesomely done especially.

Also, I don't know if anyone else felt this way, but I feel that there's something between Kara Edwards' Goten and Kyle Hebert's Gohan voices that just sorta go together.

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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:00 pm

Bansho64 wrote:A lot of people say Goten is useless besides being one half of Gotenks.
I think this has to do with how badly he's written in GT and Super.

In Z he felt like an actual character with potential but in those 2 he's just moving ink on paper.
Bansho64 wrote:Bro, I was just watching that clip and I had the same thoughts! The best word I could use to describe it is "chill". The carefree tone was fresh and the visuals were extremely well done. Those backgrounds were awesomely done especially.
It's great to see these care free episodes after watching 3 arcs in a row that are mostly about the universe being in danger.
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Post by Scsigs » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:28 pm

Bansho64 wrote:
kinisking wrote: I was rewatching some clips of boo saga Kai and I really love their run back home after Videl came. The animation, scenery, story boarding and dialogue were captivating. I also remembered how much I liked Goten's character after those clips. You're right, Goten does have a pretty entertaining personality.
Bro, I was just watching that clip and I had the same thoughts! The best word I could use to describe it is "chill". The carefree tone was fresh and the visuals were extremely well done. Those backgrounds were awesomely done especially.

Also, I don't know if anyone else felt this way, but I feel that there's something between Kara Edwards' Goten and Kyle Hebert's Gohan voices that just sorta go together.
It's Edwards' evolving of the voice that really helps. The softer tone of her Goten voice now is WAY more pleasing to the ears than when she first started, & was majorly forcing it. Hebert was never TERRIBLE as Gohan, per se, but the better direction that informs his acting & the better scripts nowadays really help his performance as him. Both are major parts of what's making this arc probably the best part of modern-dubbed DB material so far. Seriously, the only part I hate is that Meredith McCoy isn't 18 because Colleen Clinkenbeard just doesn't play her well at all. She just doesn't fit the character. Same with Young Gohan, it sounds identical to her Luffy, just not with a stuffed nose, & that's too jarring for me.
Super's fine & all, but I feel it's either too rushed for some reason, or the actors aren't in total sync with the characters' voices like they should, which is bullshit considering that these guys have had to dub stuff for Dragon Ball constantly every year since they first started. I feel it'll really come together either by Resurrection F, or after. Seriously, why does that dub feel so rushed while TFC's doesn't? They've been recording Super since July, or something I assume, given the Instagram post Jason Douglas made all the way back then. I get that TFC was recorded over the process of a year or 2, but these actors are usually really good with their voice acting.
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Post by IAmTheMilkMan » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:46 pm

kinisking wrote:
Bansho64 wrote:
kinisking wrote: What did he do? haha
It was when Goten was bothering him when he was trying to train. Gohan was about to bust a blood vessel yellin at dat boy :lol:
Damn :lol: . Forgot something like that ever happened. I felt really bad for Goten haha. I really do miss Gohan and Goten's relationship though.
For the record, that bit is filler. Take that however you want, but I see it as yet another example of the anime damaging characters in a way that Toriyama never intended. It's not as bad as how the anime depicts Chi-Chi or Bulma in filler sequences, but it at least explains why it feels so out of character for Gohan.
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Post by sintzu » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:56 pm

Scsigs wrote:Super's fine & all, but I feel it's either too rushed for some reason, or the actors aren't in total sync with the characters' voices like they should, which is bullshit considering that these guys have had to dub stuff for Dragon Ball constantly every year since they first started. I feel it'll really come together either by Resurrection F, or after. Seriously, why does that dub feel so rushed while TFC's doesn't? They've been recording Super since July, or something I assume, given the Instagram post Jason Douglas made all the way back then. I get that TFC was recorded over the process of a year or 2, but these actors are usually really good with their voice acting.
Maybe it's because the video moves faster or different than the original.
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